Pack Pride vs The Wolfpacker

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This is a topic that we have never discussed here on SFN and it is time to get it out there as my premium subscription to Pack Pride has recently expired and I cannot decide if I am going to renew it. I have severely limited familiarity with TheWolfpacker.com because of (1) my historical ties to the old StateFans.com that evolved into Pack Pride and (2) how bad TheWolfpacker.com used to be years ago.

A very quick glimpse of the two sites indicates that the message board community at Pack Pride is significantly more vibrant than the Wolfpacker – but, is the multitude of stupid people and the biased moderation of many of the personal attacks allowed on PackPride worth the ‘vibrancy’?

I am not going to say anything else right now…but, I would welcome some detailed input from the community on what you perceive to be the strengths and weaknesses of each site relative to their content, layout and message board communities.

Thanks!!!

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56 Responses to Pack Pride vs The Wolfpacker

  1. PAPacker 06/11/2008 at 2:01 PM #

    Ed, I’m from Hickory too. At least the internet allows us to follow the Triangle papers and especially SFN and not have to depend on the Charlotte POS paper for sports.

  2. PAPacker 06/11/2008 at 2:02 PM #

    Aren’t Favors and Wall one and done’s anyway? Most likely?

  3. 66pack 06/11/2008 at 2:04 PM #

    but we often talk about unc.that is whom we use to compete with on an equal basis and hope to competitive with in the future -if we ever leave the ACC basement.

  4. Ed89 06/11/2008 at 2:10 PM #

    Good one, Happypackdad…true. I noticed that Mason Plumlee is now a 5-star since he signed with Duke. Ryan Kelly is still a 4-star. Ask most coaches who they’d rather have, and the answer is Kelly.

  5. old13 06/11/2008 at 2:25 PM #

    I subscribed to The Wolfpacker for several years and enjoyed it very much. But I eventually decided I did not have enough interest in following the information (due partly to the LF and CA affects) to subscribe, although I continued participation on the free board. Eventually I also started participating in the PackPride free board, but quickly became very irritated with the gestapo tactics employed there. Now I primarily look at both boards equally merely scanning the headlines and reviewing the lists of prospective recruits. The Wolfpacker seems to have a much reduced participation on the free board than PackPride. But I wouldn’t subscribe to premium on either – even if one had to in order to view the commits and prospects information. In fact, with you-know-who in charge of the Wolfpack Athletics Department, I find little of interest in Wolfpack sports any more. But I do enjoy the related discussions on this and other blogs.

  6. happypackdad 06/11/2008 at 2:35 PM #

    “if we ever leave the ACC basement.”

    it’s a loooong distance between the ACC basement & the #1 program in the nation.

  7. 66pack 06/11/2008 at 3:14 PM #

    so happypackdad you are satisfied with middle tier and do not believe that ncsu should try to be the best – hell you must work for LEE.

  8. El Scrotcho 06/11/2008 at 3:18 PM #

    I let my PP account lapse about 3 years ago…I can’t believe how unbearable the last few years would have been if I actually kept up with all the minutia. Recruiting just isn’t very interesting when you’re not battling for some big names. Chuck definitely made recruiting interesting those first couple years.

  9. happypackdad 06/11/2008 at 3:23 PM #

    66pack, never satisfied, just unrealistic to comapre ourselves against the best right now.

  10. legacyman 06/11/2008 at 7:21 PM #

    I believe all of us aspire to get back near the top as we have been several times in the distant past. The current coaches for basketball and football need some time to restructure the programs to their way of thinking and those of us who constantly tear them down do no good to our programs. It won’t be a quick rise by either program but a slow, steady improvement is what we should look to happen.

  11. redfred2 06/11/2008 at 7:33 PM #

    I love to track recruiting during in the off season, the anticipation of new blood makes the count down to the first game seem to take forever. On top of that, it can make that familiar agony that comes with failing miserably, last the entire year long. That’s why I like it.

  12. SMD 06/11/2008 at 8:36 PM #

    Personally, I have never really followed recruiting on either site. With all the information we have flowing around our lives, I made the decision long ago to cut out information related to what kind of hat a 16 year old may have been seen wearing. (I kid, those of you who are really into recruiting, have at it.)

    As someone who was somewhat involved with the original Statefans, the quality ran downhill fast once it became Packpride. That was probably inevitable. After all, the hamburger at Char-Grill is better than McDs.
    At the risk of sounding like a suck up, SFN is the most like what the old Statefans was, and that’s why I hang out here.

    The posters are better, the discussion is better and there’s less trolls. Thanks SFN!

  13. highstick 06/11/2008 at 9:11 PM #

    Char-Grill is the “tops”! I have to get a “fix” everytime I’m in Raleigh and it reminds me a many late night runs down Hillsborough for food in the 60’s!

    I really like the discussion here because the trolls don’t last long. Most of us that have been here for a while can have honest disagreements and get really mad at times, but usually there’s a bunch of facts and circumstances to back up honest disagreement.

  14. 48wolfpacker 06/11/2008 at 9:15 PM #

    PP > TheWolfpacker

  15. VaWolf82 06/11/2008 at 9:29 PM #

    This is quite a coincedence. It’s time for me to renew at PP and I’ve just about decided not to. It has been a really long time since I cared what a 16/17 year recruit had to say….and that seems to be the majority of the discussions on PP. I have no experience with the Wolfpacker, but it doesn’t sound like it is much different or any better.

  16. redfred2 06/11/2008 at 10:30 PM #

    Highstick, If you’ve ever, I’ve never noticed it.

    Had any facts that is. 😉

  17. redfred2 06/11/2008 at 10:50 PM #

    ^Legacyman, nice post!!!

    I know I blow up at times, but I do have the patience wait this thing, or rather these things, out. All I want to see (for right now) are some highly MOTIVATED kids playing halfway INTELLIGENTLY. That’s in both football and BB. If we can develop just that, considering everything else that’s now in place, then there finally should be room for some REAL optimism about the future.

  18. downeasterner 06/11/2008 at 10:55 PM #

    I subscribed to both for years. Finally, a little over a year ago, I decided it was time to let one go. Any scoop that was valid on one site came out fairly quickly on the other and it pretty much seemed redundant to have both. I went with The Wolfpacker, mainly because I was tiring of all the negativity and general trolling on PP. I haven’t missed it, and I am satisfied with what I get from my premium subscription. Both sites are good quality, and I think it is a matter of taste.

  19. cooldrip 06/11/2008 at 11:57 PM #

    Totally agree Red. Programs are built around smart, high energy kids who really appreciate being a part of something bigger than themselves. Sure, these guys might not be your superstar, statistical leader-type guys, but they play four years in your program, end up being senior leaders, and graduate. They teach the kids coming in what it means to run with the PACK. This is where you establish that legacy of success.

    I think in football, we’ve got a few of those kind of kids. Jamelle Eugene is that kind of guy; he’s waited his turn and earned his playing time. And I think the type of kids TOB recruits will be these type guys; substance over flash. I can be proud to watch a team full of kids like that; win or lose, they play smart and leave everything on the field.

    Now basketball, I’m not so sure …

  20. ncsumatman 06/12/2008 at 12:09 AM #

    I went to State for undergrad and Alabama for grad school, and their community largely revolved around Rivals rather than Scout. I myself used to be a huge troll at packpride until this site really took off during the coaching debacle(decision), and since then I track here, redandwhite, and sectionsix more than I do packpride. It seems the more intelligent discourse has moved away from the recruiting sites to indepedent blogs. But as for recruiting info, I still like Scout’s forman more than Rivals.

  21. JeremyH 06/12/2008 at 12:23 AM #

    i just read that JJ is NOT backing out of the draft, and the article is dated a week ago. what’s up SFN? we don’t care?

  22. Sw0rdf1sh 06/12/2008 at 7:13 AM #

    Yesterday I noticed that PP had some new articles related to recruiting that I have yet to see information about at PP.

    There is a good story about a LB from AL that has us in his tops that I didn’t know about. That is the kind of information I go to PP for.

    SFN and RAWFS seem to have more “intelligent” discussions and topics that vary from just recruiting and that makes them stand out.

  23. BJD95 06/12/2008 at 9:14 AM #

    ^^ We’ve been telling y’all for MONTHS that Hickson was gone. No need to blog every “dead tree media” confirmation of that fact.

    The sun came up this morning, too. But we didn’t blog about it. Our bad.

  24. Rick 06/12/2008 at 9:17 AM #

    “Good one, Happypackdad…true. I noticed that Mason Plumlee is now a 5-star since he signed with Duke. Ryan Kelly is still a 4-star. Ask most coaches who they’d rather have, and the answer is Kelly.”

    I have seen Kelly play three times and he is a very good ball player. He will not wow you with physical skills but he is a very smart ball player that knows how to score. He also has the build that can add alot of weight without affecting his game.

  25. primacyone 06/12/2008 at 11:42 AM #

    The Wolfpacker has a good non-preimum read on Scott Wood today.

    “Wood also was a standout in the recent Indiana AAU state tournament. Playing for SYF, he led his squad to the finals against the vaunted Indiana Elite team. With SYF down by eight points, Wood scored 18 straight points to rally his squad to a 91-81 triumph. Wood finished with 37 points, 26 of them in the second half.”

    http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=817028

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