NC State Football Recruit Tobias Palmer Wins State 2-A 100M Dash (Updated 5/13)

May 10th
Pretty cool. Check this out:

For the boys, Northwood senior Tobias Palmer, an N.C. State football and track recruit, won the 100 meters with a time of 10.58. He ran an 11.09 at regionals. “This was my last chance,” said Palmer, who wanted to win badly after taking sixth last year and second place as a sophomore.

May 13th
I was looking through my new ACC Area Sports Journal today at lunch and noticed a profile of Palmer in their “Galaxy of Stars” section that was obviously very timely. I am linking the article here (I am an online subscriber to the publication, so I do not know if the online version of this article is ‘premium’.)

Palmer’s speed and ability to potentially create for himself as a “scat-back” is a nice option to add to our arsenal. I’m currently thinking a “Tramain Hall” with a little more speed and the opportunity to start at NC State immediately as opposed to having to wait three years. (Nice). Lastly, Palmer’s devotion to the Wolfpack program is also something about which we can all be appreciative:

Palmer, from nearby Northwood High, just 30 miles west of the N.C. State campus, committed on March 27, 2007, to the school he dreamed of representing since his days as a Pop Warner player. Given his local roots, and his love for the Wolfpack, the commitment was no major surprise.

The bigger story was that Palmer did not waver in his commitment to the Pack. He didn’t flinch when coach Chuck Amato, who was responsible for initiating his recruitment, was sacked in favor of O’Brien. And Palmer held to his word even though State finished 5-7 last fall, 3-5 in the ACC.

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23 Responses to NC State Football Recruit Tobias Palmer Wins State 2-A 100M Dash (Updated 5/13)

  1. Dogbreath 05/10/2008 at 3:32 PM #

    I will put money that he never steps foot on Paul Derr track.

  2. burnbarn 05/11/2008 at 3:46 PM #

    I believe he tied the best time in the country in the 100 for this season
    and
    set an ACC record in the 200? (not as sure about this one).

  3. kool k 05/11/2008 at 4:10 PM #

    Looks like TJ Graham won as well in the 4A 100 and 200.

  4. turfpack 05/11/2008 at 8:21 PM #

    I sure hope he can catch a football or defend a reciever–sounds like he has the speed.

  5. primacyone 05/13/2008 at 8:02 AM #

    ^TJ Graham tied the best time in the country for the 100 and set a state high school record doing it. He also won the 200.

    If Glennon can put the ball on the money 60 yards down the field, we might have some something to look foward too. Heck with that kind of speed, if the two of them can hook up just a few times, it might would cause the oposing defense to put both a corner and a safty on TJ freeing up the rest of the receivers some. It seems to me we have been recruiting more receivers than normal. We could have an all out air attack 2-3 years from now.

  6. Noah 05/13/2008 at 8:52 AM #

    I remember a football coach telling me that a good way to tell who REALLY runs a 4.4-40 was to look at their track times. A real 4.4 guy will run the 100 in about 10.6. When you see guys claim to run 4.4s and they turn in 11.5 100s, you know they’re lying.

    That’s not an exact calculation, but just a good starting point for a guess.

    Tobias Palmer and TJ Graham – fast as hell

  7. primacyone 05/13/2008 at 12:13 PM #

    Good update/link StateFans on Tobias. I love players that were born State fans like us.

    I’m thinking a Devin Hester comparison. I’m thinking Tobias has the potential to be the best return guy we have ever had at NC State.

    This whole thread has big play written all over it. Or is it just me? When we hired TOB/Bible, I was thinking slow methodical football (and I was fine with that). But dang, from the OL recruits, to the QB, to the WR’s, to the RB’s, I’m seeing run and gun baby.

    Is it just me?

  8. graywolf 05/13/2008 at 12:30 PM #

    primacyone wrote:

    “If Glennon can put the ball on the money 60 yards down the field, we might have some something to look foward too. Heck with that kind of speed, if the two of them can hook up just a few times, it might would cause the oposing defense to put both a corner and a safty on TJ freeing up the rest of the receivers some. It seems to me we have been recruiting more receivers than normal. We could have an all out air attack 2-3 years from now”

    ONLY if we straighten out the OL that has been the real problem offensively for years. Amato refused to recruit good OL and we have payed the price for a long time.

  9. Noah 05/13/2008 at 1:12 PM #

    I’m thinking a Devin Hester comparison. I’m thinking Tobias has the potential to be the best return guy we have ever had at NC State.

    Well, first of all, Hester was one the top 30 players in the country as a high school senior. Palmer was one of the 30 guys in the state. So…slight difference.

    Secondly, TJ Graham is probably a step and a half faster than Palmer.

    Both of those guys are fast, but raw. Think — Danny Peebles as a freshman.

  10. StateFans 05/13/2008 at 1:18 PM #

    These are the types of athletes that TOB generally did not have access to at Boston College. It will be interesting to see if he/we can build all of the other foundation (OL, QB, etc) that he was able to build at BC and then see the impact of layering this talent to the mix

  11. choppack1 05/13/2008 at 1:20 PM #

    Yea, Hester comparison’s aren’t really fair. These guys may turn out like that, but odds are terribly against it. How good is Hester – he’s doing the stuff he did in college in the nfl. Simply put, he’s doing what the Reggie Bush boosters thought Reggie would do.

  12. packbackr04 05/13/2008 at 1:25 PM #

    can Tobias or TJ play basketball? maybe we could get TOB to recruit our BBall players too… i am starting to have some serious doubts about Sid. Has anyone heard anything about our summer strength and conditioning program having any changes from last yr or are the coaches spending more time on the links than in the practice facility?

  13. Dr. BadgerPack 05/13/2008 at 2:03 PM #

    Chop- Well, Bush’s boosters would be a lot happier if the Saints actually used him the way the Bears use Hester- as a primary return man! Bush could probably do similar things, if not in terms of TDs certainly in terms of yardage and big returns.

    What will be very intriguing is to see if/how the Bible offense adapts to playmakers. We’ve seen BC fans criticize the 3rd-and-forever dump passes; was this a function of the talent, or the gameplan. With the athletes in place, we’ll probably have our answer.

  14. ruffles31 05/13/2008 at 2:08 PM #

    Forget Hester. I will settle for Alvis Whitted.

  15. Noah 05/13/2008 at 3:03 PM #

    Whitted is probably a very fair comparison.

  16. john of sparta 05/13/2008 at 6:36 PM #

    he can run.
    with equipment?
    can he take a hit?
    can he take another?
    of course, as the old saying goes:
    “they gotta catch me to hit me.”

  17. Sw0rdf1sh 05/13/2008 at 7:37 PM #

    The kid isn’t just a track star. He does play football and has a scholly for it. I think he can take a hit, but again, can he take a D1 hit?

    After reading his 100M time, I’m thinking 11 seconds? I see visions of the Blackman runback at the Clemson game last year, except with a couple of seconds trimmed off. That is fast and I think with an open path to the endzone kid gets 6 everytime.

    He’s got the juice now to have Hester speed, but DH has proved he is next level 100%. Hopefully TOB can bring that level to TP too.

  18. McPete 05/13/2008 at 8:01 PM #

    I think the consensus at this point is that tobias palmer is more of an accomplished football player coming in than tj graham. palmer put up better numbers, which is typical for HS players since palmer played RB and graham was a WR. i’m sure they both have plenty to learn about their prospective positions before they can really contribute in the ACC. i wouldn’t expect either to play much next year. i hope i’m wrong, because the return game is a big question mark without DB back there, who by the way, is not as fast as either of these guys. if DB has 4.4 speed, he would have been drafted.

  19. Wolf Dog 05/13/2008 at 8:34 PM #

    You can’t coach speed. You got it or you don’t. Sheridan and some of our other past coaches were very good about taking a look at the track guys. I am very excited to have Palmer and looking forward to watching him play. Like another poster pointed out knowing he grew up a State fan makes it even better.

  20. Noah 05/14/2008 at 7:47 AM #

    Blackman was quick and shifty, but didn’t have the top-end speed. I think he ran a 4.7 on his pro day.

  21. RAWFS 05/14/2008 at 8:35 AM #

    “ONLY if we straighten out the OL that has been the real problem offensively for years. Amato refused to recruit good OL and we have payed the price for a long time.”

    This simply cannot be said enough. It is no small coincidence that when Galbraith and O’Cain’s lines graduated that State’s offensive power dropped off drastically. Amato never seemed able to put together a good set of recruits with a solid OL coach who could develop them and as a result, Toney Baker, Andre Brown and Jamelle Eugene are not All-Americans. I honestly believe that one of the three would be if they had had the same caliber of OL that even lowly UNC did the year of the TA debacle.

    Blackman was quick and shifty, but didn’t have the top-end speed. I think he ran a 4.7 on his pro day.

    Reminds me of what I heard about Jerricho Cotchery. I view Blackman as a poor man’s Jerricho.

  22. Noah 05/14/2008 at 9:27 AM #

    Cotchery has some of the best hands in the business and is a superb route runner. If anyone remembers the old seven on sevens that Rivers and the skill guys used to run over at Doak, Rivers would talk to fans that came out to watch them. He’d sign media guides and chat for awhile. He said that the best thing about Cotchery was that he would always be EXACTLY where he was supposed to be at the very second he was supposed to be there. So he could just throw to a spot and not even worry about where Cotchery was when he released it….he’d get there when he was supposed to.

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