Congratulations Eagles! Ouch Wolfpack!

BC Eagles

StateFansNation would like to shout out a congratulations to our conference bretheren in Chestnut Hill as the Boston College Eagles have advanced to their third consecutive Frozen Four, hockey’s version of Final Four’.

Although many in the north – including a lot of the BC students – are more interested in hockey than basketball, I translate this into the equivalent of advancing to three straight College World Series in baseball (which is something that the UNC-CH Tar Heels may achieve this year).

In light of BC’s success we thought that we would share two statistics that are sadly mind-boggling of how the rest of the ACC achieves when compared to the shmables of Lee Fowler’s Athletics Department at NC State.

(1) Since Lee Fowler has become Athletics Director at NC State, the Wolfpack’s Athletics Department is the only ACC program to NOT have played in at least one National Championship game or won a team National Championship in any sport.

(2) Since Lee Fowler has become Athletics Director at NC State, Virginia – whose overall athletics program ranks near the top of the ACC with extremely strong, broad athletic success – and NC State are the only athletics programs in the ACC who have failed to participate in at least a Frozen Four, a College World Series, a BCS Bowl, or a National Basketball Championship game.

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40 Responses to Congratulations Eagles! Ouch Wolfpack!

  1. haze 04/01/2008 at 12:07 PM #

    Hockey is a revenue sport in the North, as baseball is in the Deep South.

    I’ll just about guarantee you that perenial contenders like BU, BC, Maine, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota make MUCH more money from their hockey programs than NC State does from baseball.

    Is this a slam on Fowler? No and I don’t think SFN intended it to be so. BC is the ACC regular that contends in Hockey East. Congrats to them.

  2. StateFans 04/01/2008 at 12:48 PM #

    I was in a meeting with a BC alum yesterday in Arizona who is going to the Frozen Four in Denver. Says they sellout their arena (BASKETBALL ARENA) for some big hockey games about a half full for other games. Said that he “WISHED THE STUDENTS CARED ABOUT BASKETBALL AS MUCH AS THEY CARE ABOUT HOCKEY.”

    I politely submit to some of you that you don’t understand the importance of hockey to the folks in the north. In many places it would translate to a bigger sport than baseball in the south.

    Again, don’t let that tangent or your personal biases dilute the statistics in this entry that have to do with all of the other ‘major sports’.

  3. Trip 04/01/2008 at 12:56 PM #

    Mr. Wuf should win every mascot contest, come on, he’s going up against Trees, Rams, Devils, Decons, Sun Devils, Tigers, Gators, Indians, Wildcats, Catamounts, Mountaineers, a castrated turkey… How are they going to compete with a Wolf? Especially since he’s got a hot wife to come home too, I don’t think any other mascot has a wife.

    Anyway, this OP makes me sad. Not a single championship game since LF has been here? Just sad.

  4. choppack1 04/01/2008 at 1:48 PM #

    I think the basic truth that is exposed in this is that every school in the ACC has had some sports related accomplishment it can be proud of since 2001 – except for us. Yet our chancellor gives our AD w/ an achievement award.

  5. RAWFS 04/01/2008 at 1:50 PM #

    To add to Statefans’ comment about hockey’s northern popularity, I suggest you read up on “The Cold War

    The Cold War was an ice hockey game played between U.S. college rivals Michigan State University and the University of Michigan on Saturday October 6, 2001. It set the world record for the largest crowd at an ice hockey game.[1] The attendance was so high because instead of hosting the game in East Lansing’s Munn Ice Arena, Michigan State decided to set up an ice rink in the middle of the much larger Spartan Stadium, which they filled to 103.4% of capacity. This meant that 74,544[2] packed the Big Ten football stadium to watch the MSU Spartans and the U-M Wolverines skate to a 3-3 tie.[3][4] Two 300-piece marching bands were present on field and the game was internationally televised.

    cold war

  6. VaWolf82 04/01/2008 at 2:00 PM #

    I would say our inability to compete for a Frozen Four has more to do with the fact we don’t have a hockey team, but I know better.

    Actually, we do….but it is a club-level team. I know because I saw them lose this year.

  7. spudwebb 04/01/2008 at 3:18 PM #

    Similar to the MSU-UM game, I watched parts of that Pittsburgh-Buffalo outdoor game on New Years’ Day, during the “great” bowl games, and it was a lot more interesting with the elements involved.

    Hockey is like soccer, it is an inherently sloppy game when compared with big three sports. I think that makes it more difficult for a traditional sports fan to watch on TV. But when you look at it like boxing, watching for the flashes of pure skill amid the chaos, it is more enjoyable.

    I don’t go bananas for it, but I understand…..

    As for Fowler, it doesn’t marginalize his ineptitude to point out how other ADs are effective in making at least SOME of their revenue generating athletic programs successful on the playing….surface. Fowler is the Elgin Baylor of College ADs and Oblinger & Co. are playing the part of Donald Stirling to a T.

    BTW, Does Evinrude provide free motors and corporate support for the more successful bass fishing programs? Maybe Zebco?

  8. packpigskinfan23 04/01/2008 at 3:27 PM #

    “Hockey is like soccer, it is an inherently sloppy game when compared with big three sports. I think that makes it more difficult for a traditional sports fan to watch on TV.”

    I disagree. Hockey is not sloppy at all. It has sloppy moments(keeping the puck against the boards to waste away the clock) but so does every other sport(football- running the ball straight up the middle. Basketball- have you ever seen NCState play?!). It is very comparable to soccer in there are a lot of turnovers, but that what happens when you have a piece of rubber on the ice that you have to hit with sticks. You can control a ball better with your hands then a puck with a stick. Plus, goaltending in hockey is the definition of finesse, athleticism, intelligence, and speed.

  9. spudwebb 04/01/2008 at 4:12 PM #

    “It is very comparable to soccer in there are a lot of turnovers, but that what happens when you have a piece of rubber on the ice that you have to hit with sticks.”

    That’s what I meant. Possessions are fluid like basketball, and it is much harder to control the puck. It serves to magnify the superlative skill of a Crosby because he makes it look easy. Sloppy in comparison but not at all unwatchable, is what I meant to imply.

  10. redfred2 04/01/2008 at 4:45 PM #

    Hey, I don’t really care that BC is in the “frozen four” again. But I’m from the mid-atlantic, I grew up playing BB in the back yard pretty much all year round. It would be totally different if there was no place to play BB and there was a frozen pond available instead, I’m pretty sure all my buddies would be just as stoked about college hockey as they are about BB at this stage in our lives.

    The point isn’t whether any one of us really likes hockey or not, it’s mostly regional anyway, it’s that Lee Fowler, who answers to James Oblinger, who represents and puts a face on NC State University for the general public to see, through the athletic programs that they DO have, simply cannot do a single thing that they’re supposed do with even the slightest level of competence at all.

  11. Sw0rdf1sh 04/01/2008 at 6:07 PM #

    I’m tripping about the two Stats. Especially the one regarding UVA and NCSU.

    I’m really trying to figure out what the hell it says….either about VA or us.

    But the one thing I’m not confused about is that it is disheartening to see the stat regarding no championship caliber invites.

  12. turfpack 04/01/2008 at 10:51 PM #

    Maybe we have a shot at tittle-le-winks championship-Go Lee and help us get it -you know tittle-lee-winks.
    Sorry -guys I am new with this hockey stuff(from the south)don’t really understand it and I don’t have anything of value to add.
    Yes I agree-Lee sucks.

  13. whitefang 04/02/2008 at 6:21 AM #

    “I’m tripping about the two Stats. Especially the one regarding UVA and NCSU.

    I’m really trying to figure out what the hell it says….either about VA or us.”

    What it says is that our overall athletic program sucks and UVa hasn’t played in any championship games in fb, baseball, basketball, but overall their athletic program is miles ahead of ours. Which pisses me off since I am up there so much.
    BTW my “football jones” will have me tailgating at a lacrosse game in a couple of weeks up there. I think they are playing Duke. Never been to a lacrosse game and may not leave the tailgate at this one. But UVa supposely has a hell of a team.

  14. highstick 04/02/2008 at 11:50 AM #

    State has a “club” hockey team, don’t they???? I had a really weird vision last night of State playing Carolina in hockey and watching Hansborough “travel” on skates. Guess Duke couldn’t participate because there is a “diving” rule in hockey!

  15. WufPirate 04/29/2008 at 8:22 PM #

    If anyone ever has any interest in the NC club hockey teams, check out Carolina On Ice as I update when possible.

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