Stages of Wolfpack Grief – Where Are You?

With last night’s loss, it’s pretty clear that NC State will finish 4-12 in ACC play, with no post-season. We will finish last if Virginia wins one of its final four games.

Even so, I managed to watch last night’s game with a relaxed and calm demeanor. I don’t remember so much as a “damn it” coming from my mouth, or a scowl on my face. My 6-year old got pretty exasperated, but I assured her that everything was fine, and I was pretty used to it [losing] by now. This got knowing smiles from the other 2 people on my row.

It made me think about the “stages of grief” – I know almost nothing about psychology, but I do remember Lisa Simpson talking to Bart about it. I thought there were four, but turns out there are five. Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. Thanks, Wikipedia!

There was lots of denial during the non-conference games. Sure, I could see that there were problems, but we worked through them to win the Old Spice Classic, and swept the key stretch of games (Davidson, Cincy, Seton Hall) to mostly make up for debacles against New Orleans and East Carolina.

Then, anger. It definitely flared up when we lost to ECU, but that stage didn’t really begin until the Clemson game. For me, it peaked right after the home loss to Georgia Tech, which I noted was completely unacceptable. Many of my fellow Wolfpackers were still in denial, but here’s what I said:

Forget this happy crap. We just LOST AT HOME to an 8-9 team. We committed 18 turnovers and let our opponent shoot 59 percent from the field. That’s inexcusable. Full rant will be posted later.

I’m sorry, but I’ve had it up to here with sucking or near-sucking in every revenue sport, almost every single damned year.

Time would prove me right, with the Bees sitting at 4-8 in ACC play, 11-15 overall.

Next came bargaining. I point to my “path to 8-8” post. It seemed logical on its face, and laid out an “acceptable” path to make everything OK. Maybe not what we’d hoped in the preseason, but things would be mostly back on track. Was I fooling myself? Damn right. I didn’t even entertain the possibility of what actually happened over the next 6 games.

Then came depression – second half of the Maryland game and the meltdown at Boston College. Excruciating games to watch. It wasn’t mathematically impossible to get back on my “path”, but I knew in my gut that it wasn’t going to happen. There was still some anger, but mostly I just hung my head. I wrote off the 2007-08 season, and subconsciously started laying the groundwork for Stage Five.

And there I was at the RBC last night – fully immersed in acceptance. Let us know how your process is going in the comments.

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1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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256 Responses to Stages of Wolfpack Grief – Where Are You?

  1. b 02/29/2008 at 7:36 PM #

    “…and a pretty disturbing news snippet including Lowe quotes that indicate either dishonesty or cluelessness.”

    I thought the comment was accurate, and displays no prevarication. You could make a case for cluelessness, though I would tend to disagree.

    If a team wants to take a player out of your offense, its not hard to do. You just sacrifice open looks to other players. When those other players can’t hit the ocean from a pier, and you aren’t punished for taking JJ out of the picture, then an ass-whooping ensues.

    You can place the blame for those other players not producing on the HC, but that statement was accurate. JJ doesn’t have any shooting range so he is left with hitting the boards to get missing touches.

  2. wolfonthehill 02/29/2008 at 8:57 PM #

    Sid claimed that double-teams were thrown at JJ all night, thus explaining our struggles in getting the ball to him.

    The writer points out that F$U didn’t double-team once in the second-half, and that we set exactly zero screens to try to free him.

    That led me to the “dishonest or clueless” conclusion. Sid either thought JJ was facing double-teams when he wasn’t… or he’s distorting the truth to explain why our offense struggles so mightily to get its most potent player touches in good positions. It can’t be that the staff doesn’t know how to put guys in position to score, can it?

  3. PapaJohn 02/29/2008 at 9:03 PM #

    Whew! We’re criticizing Sid for throwing his team under the bus as we throw him under the bus and resign ourselves to his eventual failure. Come on guys! Are we all as foolish as GG and expected to go to the Final Four this year? I expected much better, and absolutely HATE what I’m seeing, but let’s be realistic.
    How long does it take to ressurect a program from the mediocrity that has been our program for a while? How many hundreds of thousands of words were in this column two years ago describing the sorry state of Wolfpack basketball? I suggest that it takes more than two years for an excellent college basketball coach to make lemonade out of lemons. I suggest that a seasoned coach would take 3-4 years from when hired to get his recruits in place, and his program rolling well enough to be judged based on his own accomplishments. That’s how much time we’d expect to give him.
    Well guess what? We don’t have an excellent college basketball coach! We have a guy we have to hope will become an excellent basketball coach, but he ain’t there yet. (any argument there?) It will take even longer for Sid – if it happens at all.
    Sid’s went recruiting last year after most coaches were done and filled his shopping cart with a bunch of players, most of whom had been passed over by the better programs. Guess what? They are mediocre!!! By the way, he still has to learn to recruit too.
    We hope that his staff can cover up for Sid’s OJT, but I don’t think we are seeing any evidence of that.
    But we all know that Sid cares about NCSU tradition and wants to win. We know the losing has to be killing him like it is us. The same can be said about Monte and the rest of the former players on the coaching staff. So we have to rally and support our Coach in Training.
    Acceptance is where we need to be. Accept the fact that we aren’t going to the Final Four anytime soon and the best we should hope for in the next couple of years is signs of playing harder, playing better, better players, better coaching, and the increasingly frequent victories over the boys in blue.
    Three or four years from now, if nothing has improved, then I support showing Sid and company the door and admitting that was a mistake. But it’s too early to bail on him now.

  4. wolfonthehill 03/01/2008 at 6:54 AM #

    ^ Our program was going to the tourney every year when Sid took over. We weren’t exactly doomed to mediocrity.

    There’s a huge gap between what we’ve sunk to & the Final Four, sir. I would wager that no one here expected the Final Four this year… but we’re observing results that are far below anyone’s expectations (player, coach, fan, analyst alike); we’re observing a lack of effort, cohesion, and teamwork that are simply inexcusable in any year of a coach’s tenure; and we’re observing what appears to be a complete inability by the staff to do anything about it.

    Did uncch make a mistake when they let Doh go? I think not. And I’m by no means willing to give this staff “three or four years”, as you suggest. It’s asinine to assume that it takes that long to evaluate whether or not they’re getting the job done.

  5. Cardiac95 03/01/2008 at 10:20 AM #

    I just have to say bravo for maintaining two excellent threads in one.

    Also, I just feel fortunate that O’Brien somehow fell into our laps. Outside of him, all of our coaching searches since the V “scandal” have been underwhelming.

  6. gcpack 03/01/2008 at 10:54 AM #

    PAPA JOHN wrote,”Whew! We’re criticizing Sid for throwing his team under the bus as we throw him under the bus and resign ourselves to his eventual failure.”

    I completely agree with you PJ. Although most blogs don’t represent the majority of fans the fact that many of you here are already talking about a new coach either means you absolutely have no common sense or, as I have mentioned before, you are the anti-State only here to discredit the larger State community.

    There is a very good article (for once) in the Saturday N&O re: Coach K and his early years. I suggest that you Lowe complainers read it, file it away in your jaded memory bank and get interested in whatever you do in the spring when basketball season is over.

    If Lowe’s teams are still performing in 2 years like this year’s team then the debate should resume. Until then go make some money,
    work on the golf swing, paint the kitchen, fix the fence, plan the summer vacation, do something but just can the fire Lowe insanity.

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