Sears Cup Standings (as of January 10, 2008)

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Here’s the grim reality. Res ipsa loquitor – the thing speaks for itself. One footnote – Georgia Tech and Miami just replaced their athletic directors.

6. Wake Forest
12. Florida State
14. Virginia
20. Duke
22. UNC
32. Boston College
33(T). Clemson
33(T). Virginia Tech
36. Maryland
89. NC State
118. Georgia Tech
118(T). Miami

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1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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72 Responses to Sears Cup Standings (as of January 10, 2008)

  1. packbackr04 02/29/2008 at 3:38 PM #

    why in the hell would charlie Cobb leave Boone? hes tucked away in the beautiful NC mountains, with a gorgoues campus, and terrific chancellor in Ken Peacock. The weather is perfect, the golf is great, the environment is more laid back. He is in an athletic dept with 3 national championships, which is 1 for every yr since hes been there. ive seen more App bumper sticker and license plates since he arrived on campus there than any other school. Hell they even have billboards in eastern NC for App. I havent seen a NCSU billboard in ages! why would he ever come BACK to raleigh and get mired in the mess that has been brewing in raleigh since 1989?

  2. Astral Rain 02/29/2008 at 3:55 PM #

    I think the only way Fowler leaves office is a heart attack. This is why I don’t expect a national championship in my lifetime, and I’m not that old.

  3. b 02/29/2008 at 4:37 PM #

    “why in the hell would charlie Cobb leave Boone?”

    Back a Brinks truck up to his garage door, and he would certainly consider a move to a more prominent and lucrative position. He isn’t succeeding like he is for being stupid.

  4. BAC79 02/29/2008 at 4:51 PM #

    Whitefang: I feel your pain. My oldest child (female), graduated from UNC-CH in may of 2007; my youngest child (female), has been accepted to UNC-CH for the 2008-2009 school year. Needless to say, they both grew up State fans but they both said they worked like trojans in high school and they both decided to accept an invitation to the most difficult school to attend. Oblinger and co. need to understand that kids this day and time want to get in the most difficult school they can with the best athletic program.

    ASU’s applications have gone from the 7500-10,000 range to 20,000 plus solely due to THREE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. Is anyone out there listening, i.e. JED.

    Imagine this, you are a 1979 grad of NCSU. You have witnessed an NCAA baksetball championship in 1974. Your brother played football for Lew HOLTZ at State from 73-77, you witnessed the 83 championship in basketball and your own two children decided to attend UNC-CH. Go figure.

  5. Canis_Lupis 02/29/2008 at 4:52 PM #

    I beleive Bill Cower or Bobby Knight would be a an excellent AD. It doesn’t matter though because all the media, the NCAA, and the referees despise NC State and what it stands for. Until we can show everybody we have an excellent athletics dept we are not going to get the recruits for either football or basketball. The recruits will go to wither Duke or the other blue team. The only way this going to change is to get an AD and a Chancellor who loves sports. The only way to hurt them is to start boycotting the games and hurt them in the pocket.

  6. whitefang 02/29/2008 at 5:19 PM #

    ushum
    Yes it is Ryan

  7. ushum 02/29/2008 at 5:31 PM #

    and i feel your pain with the athletic dept brother…we are an absolute joke at the moment…thank God that Tom O’Brien was interested in our job and contacted our agents…

  8. GAWolf 02/29/2008 at 5:34 PM #

    Look at those yearly standings. The highest a technical school was in the last so many years in the ACC in Sears Cup points was Clemson in 2002 at 2nd. OTher than that it is 2001 with Clemson at 5. The rest is Clemson/Tech/State at 6th a couple of times.

    The bottom line is that technical schools traditionally don’t have enough programs to hide the “nonscholarly” of the scholar athletes.

    That list is dominated year and year out by traditionally liberal arts schools.

    NOW… I’m not taking up for Fowler because I’ve been screaming for his head for years. Regardless of his blatant incompetence he’s an arrogant asshole who needs a punch in the nose to humble him.

    I just thought I’d point out that interesting bit of information one could gather from those statistics.

  9. RBCRowdy 02/29/2008 at 5:47 PM #

    The college of engineering is no longer the only college on campus, there ARE places to hide athletes.

  10. whitefang 02/29/2008 at 5:49 PM #

    Ryan absolutely is a great guy. Coincidentally Ryan called me about an hour after I made my earlier post today to discuss fb parking this fall at UVa. Being a State alum and having some connections in Raleigh too (as you probably know) we ended up talking a while about the situation there. Of course he couldn’t and wouldn’t say anything “out of school”, but one thing he did say was how State has such really great and passionate fans. And damn we do.

  11. highstick 02/29/2008 at 6:11 PM #

    Astral, can a group of us go “scare the crap” out of Fowler to hasten that heart attack???? Catch him in the dark and say “boo” or something?

  12. dR. dIX hILL 02/29/2008 at 6:39 PM #

    cHARLIE cOBB sHOULD bE tHE nEXT aTHLETIC dIRECTOR. hE hAS dONE a gREAT jOB aT hAPPY aPPY. hE’LL rUN rINGS aROUND “cOACH i kNOW bASKETBALL fOWLER.”

  13. dR. dIX hILL 02/29/2008 at 6:40 PM #

    i’LL bE sHARING tHINGS i kNOW iN tHE nEAR fUTURE.

  14. RTPMedic 02/29/2008 at 10:01 PM #

    Agree, Bill Cowher for AD!

  15. Primewolf 02/29/2008 at 11:51 PM #

    The Chair of the BOT is McQueen Campbell of Campbell Property Group in Raleigh. Send him a letter with some logic in it, not an emotional dumb ass rant on BB.

    The university must begin to think as athletics as a way to raise the stature of the school, attract more and better students, maintain alumni relations, and show the outside world our goal is to compete at the highest level. The current leaders certainly aren’t motivated to push for excellence in athletics and don’t seem to understand the benefits of athletic excellence. I think they are focused on the risk of attempting to achieve excellence and not the benefits. I think it is still hangover from 20 years ago.

    Other schools have had huge problems within their athletic departments. But they don’t hand their head for 20 years and just try to scape by. I am embarassed to say our leaders have totally failed to try to be successful in an area where we can succeed. Oblinger can’t even make himself fire the student affairs guy, much less Fowler. How could NCSU had a guy run the school that majored in food science. We need a smart engineer running things, not some DA weak leader that majored in food science. Why not just major in home ec at ECU.

  16. Mr O 03/01/2008 at 8:05 AM #

    Whitefangs: You bring up a great point about our passionate fans. Essentially we were the ones who attracted the interesting of Tom O’Brien with our support of our programs and the facilities we were built. Our AD deserves almost zero credit for that hire. Amazingly enough, it our AD who has criticized our fanbase on numerous occasions.

    $1250 annually for 40 yard line seats? You must be in the first few rows. UVa is reseating their stadium this year and donation requirements have gone way up.

    Group A $6200 minimum, two levels w/ highest at $22,600+
    Group B $2500-$6199
    Group C $100-$2499
    Group D non-donor-$100

    See link below for where this gets you seats.

    UVa fans did get off relatively cheap compared to our lifetime rights holders. However, UVa has for many years received very, very large donations to support their athletic programs. Donations as much as $25 million, John Grisham moved to C’ville and made a huge donation for their baseball stadium.

    http://www.virginiasports.com/fls/17800/ticketOffice/pdf/VAFSeating.jpg?DB_OEM_ID=17800

    Might add more on Fowler after I get to witness Coach K’s 800th win. Take away P. Rivers and Julius Hodge and NC State would have accomplished nothing over the Lee Fowler era.

  17. Mr O 03/01/2008 at 8:06 AM #

    Still wish there was an edit feature here…or I guess I could proofread what I type.

  18. WolftownVA81 03/01/2008 at 11:56 AM #

    I think a letter writing/email campaign should be started. If someone has the names of the appropriate people to contact along with address and or email, please post or provide a link to them. It’s time for LF to go and the rank and file may to be the ones to start the discussion.

  19. ktoh 03/01/2008 at 2:48 PM #

    yes get those names and email addies out enough please

  20. blpack 03/01/2008 at 3:22 PM #

    The Sears numbers just point out what many have known for a while. We are not heading in a good direction as an athletics program. We have great fans. Loyal alumni. Have given $ until it hurts and helped pay for better facilities. We have nothing to show for it. It is time to say enough. 7+ years is more than enough to see a trend.

  21. PackScout 03/01/2008 at 6:34 PM #

    This should be a wake up call for our athletic department. There is absolutely no excuse to be so low in the Sears Cup standings. We need better head coaches and assistant coaches that can get the job done. It all starts with coaching and recruiting, PERIOD! Our teams have the Wolfpack Nation support through the Wolfpack Club. Our support and fanbase deserve better!!

  22. Cardiff Giant 03/03/2008 at 4:10 PM #

    The problem is less Lee Fowler than our idiotic – yes, I said idiotic and meant it – Board of Trustees, who extended Fowler’s contract recently for another FIVE years.

    When our own BOT is a willing participant in Fowler serving up these athletic shit sandwiches every year, why wouldn’t Fowler take the big bucks to do so? It’s not like the SEC is lining up to hire him. That dream died long ago.

    And even if we did get rid of Fowler, the BOT idiots would simply promote Nora Lynn Finch, who is even more staggeringly inept and incompetent, in my opinion, than Lee Fowler is.

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