Football Recruiting to Take Center Stage

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With signing day less than 24 hours away, college football recruiting will take center stage this week. To its credit, the Charlotte Observer who traditionally gives us LOTS of things to criticize ran two particularly interesting articles today focused on college football recruiting complete with a detailed budget of the schools that can be seen by clicking here.:

Carolinas Schools Spend Generously to Woo Recruits
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Area Colleges Rollout Red Carpet for Recruits

Each school itemizes in its own way, so it’s impossible to proclaim a Carolinas recruiting budget champion. But North Carolina ($449,347) and Clemson ($401,083) each spent more than $400,000 and South Carolina ($283,505) and N.C. State ($243,462) more than $200,000 in 2006-07.

East Carolina spent $148,412, and Football Championship Subdivision champion Appalachian State spent $45,000, according to data provided to the Observer.

The NCAA limits schools to 25 scholarships in a class. That means some Carolinas schools in 2006-07 spent more than $10,000 per signee. North Carolina spent $18,722 per signee in a class of 24.

NC State and South Carolina each spent approximately $245k and $285k, respectively, on recruiting this year. In light of their similarity to sister schools Clemson and UNC-CH, one can only wonder why/how the Tarheels could outspend the Wolfpack by almost $200k and the Tigers outspend the Gamecocks by about $150k?

Clemson’s amount is a little understandable as the cost of travel in and out of the more remote area is going to be more expensive. Additionally, they provided a detailed budget that shows that the bulk of the difference also comes from $93.7k charged by the University for the use of the University’s airplane. At other schools, private supporters sometimes ‘donate’ time and the use of their private aircraft to coaches.

At UNC-CH some of the differences are less clear. The Tarheels must fly first class to Maui as their travel expenditures more than doubled NC State’s $193,.9k to $89k.7k. Additionally, Carolina spent more than 33% of NC State’s entire recruiting budget ($87.2k) on ambiguously mysterious “Miscellaneous Services and Obligations”.

Recruits get treated like royalty when they make official visits. Throughout January, recruiting hosts throughout the nation have dined (but pledged not to wine) top high school athletes who will choose a college on national signing day Wednesday.

Records of budgets for Carolinas public colleges for big recruiting weekends in January 2007 show schools put prospects and their parents in comfortable hotels and fed them well during visits.

On the weekend of Jan. 12-14, 2007, N.C. State’s prospects dined on surf and turf ($58 per person) at Rey’s Restaurant on Friday night. They ate barbecue at The Q Shack ($9.75) for lunch Saturday before a catered dinner at the Vaughn Towers suites at Carter-Finley Stadium.

At North Carolina, recruits and their hosts dined at steakhouses such as Ruth’s Chris or Bin 54. “The royal carpet is laid out, and it’s really nice,” said North Carolina safety Deunta Williams, who recommends the surf and turf at Bin 54.

As we shared with you before, the Charlotte Observer has struggled with their coverage of RJ Mattes, one of the top recruits in the state who lives right in the Observer’s backyard in Concord. Well, they found a way to work Mattes into this piece with a call-out box titled, “Top-rated recruit makes the rounds”

Mattes chose NC State as having the “best facilities” which has obviously become a sources of pride for the program. He said, “Everything is centralized. You’ve got all your needs right there — training table, the training room, weight room, locker rooms, everything is right in one place.”

The item to which I wanted to call the most attention was his comments regarding the “Best Hotel”.

North Carolina, Carolina Inn. “It was just an old-time hotel in the middle of campus. They gave out cookies every morning. … The beds were so comfortable, and the (flat screen) TVs were amazing.”

I don’t disagree with Mattes’ selection. Especially when you compare that Carolina Inn to the Embassy Suites in Crabtree Valley that NC State uses because we have no other decent option any closer to campus. Although you will never get an administrator at NC State other than Marye Ann Fox to understand it…and you certainly won’t get anyone to take a stand on any issue that isn’t the status quo…the continued void created by the lack of a top-notch hotel at/on NC State’s campus continues to be a major detriment to our entire University.

This extends far beyond the insignificant impact on athletics recruiting and is a problem that NC State desperately needs to solve despite the ridiculous self-serving lobby of the hotel industry.

For NC State recruiting junkies, WRAL is already proclaiming our recruiting class a success even as we wait on one or two final potential commitments. Calling Leon Mackey!!! This previous blog entry and the links contained within it can serve as some background on some of our thoughts.

“It’s very important to fill our needs,” (recruiting coordinator Jerry) Petercuskie said. “We have 85 scholarships, and people think that’s a lot. But that’s a lot less than it used to be back in the old days. Coach O’Brien does a great job in relation to filling our needs. He’ll look two to three years down the road to the number of players at each position and the number of players we need to recruit at each position.”

O’Brien wasted no time with addressing one of State’s biggest needs — the offensive line. Already, N.C. State has received commitments from five offensive linemen, including R.J. Mattes out of Concord Robinson. Mattes, listed at 6 feet 6 and 260 pounds, is considered to be the No. 11 offensive tackle prospect in the nation according to Scout.com

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39 Responses to Football Recruiting to Take Center Stage

  1. clem haskins 02/05/2008 at 2:16 PM #

    When I was coaching I could recruit with the best of them.

    I would buy them tractors and build them houses.

    Let me work at N.C State as recruitment advisor and I will show you how to spend like the UNC TAR-HOLES. You will get your money’s worth out of me if you hire me.

    the great “clem haskins”

  2. CaptainCraptacular 02/05/2008 at 3:28 PM #

    chop – does the WPC contribute any of the funds used for recruiting? Not sure as I don’t get a breakdown of where my donations go. But if the WPC does contribute for that purpose I guess it wouldn’t have to be public record, right?

  3. bTHEredterror 02/05/2008 at 3:35 PM #

    Let me get this straight.

    NC State #27 class by Scout.com with budget of $243,462.

    UNC #51 class by Scout.com with budget of $449,347.

    In terms of value, that’s roughly twice the results at roughly half the price. Damn I love TOB and his staff.

  4. Six Pack 02/05/2008 at 4:01 PM #

    Yeah, it just goes to show that throwing money at a problem does not always solve the problem!

    As far as the 25 scholarship limit per year and 85 scholarship limit overall. The NCAA rule basically allows a school to sign a maximum of 25 scholarship players in any one academic year. Some years, schools will obviously sign fewer than 25 players. Ff the classes are kept in balance then no more than 22 players should be signed each year.

  5. Noah 02/05/2008 at 4:08 PM #

    The Velvet Cloak Inn is now being converted to condos. They’re selling units for about $75k, I believe. The Carolina Inn, I’m sorry to say, is a very nice facility. A friend of mine works with the Jazz at Lincoln Center travelling group and they put him up there last year for a show. Very nice.

    Regarding wide receivers, don’t forget Stephen Howard from Charlotte. He was equally impressive on the scout team this year. He’s a big kid, 6-3 or so.

    I’m guessing on Carolina’s expenses…but they recruited nationally this year, while we recruited regionally. We were hitting NC, SC, VA, and Georgia with maybe two kids from Florida. They were hitting Florida and California and Texas and Arizona. That’s a guess though.

    Not only are we having a good year this year, but we’re off to a good start for next year. I don’t think we’ll land either of the top two (Desmond Scott and the Holloman kid from Charlotte), but starting with Xavier Nixon on down, I think we’ll be competitive for the rest of the state.

  6. Noah 02/05/2008 at 4:10 PM #

    “As far as the 25 scholarship limit per year and 85 scholarship limit overall. The NCAA rule basically allows a school to sign a maximum of 25 scholarship players in any one academic year. Some years, schools will obviously sign fewer than 25 players. Ff the classes are kept in balance then no more than 22 players should be signed each year.”

    If you assume that you sign 25 every year, you’re only averaging losing between three and four players every year. I’d actually feel pretty good if that was our attrition rate.

    Between injuries, transfers, people giving up the sport and grades, you’ll easily lose that many.

  7. newt 02/05/2008 at 4:32 PM #

    There was once talk of putting condos in at the Carter, like is at NASCAR raceways. Would it be a violation to put up a recruit in such a condo, owned by the athletics department?

  8. Pack92 02/05/2008 at 4:34 PM #

    Right on redterror. I was doing the numbers in my head as I was reading your post. Can you say butch-slapped? In your own backyard no less?

  9. stlouiswufpacker 02/05/2008 at 5:08 PM #

    the stat that i noticed that jumped out was that the 2 SC schools paid like $40-50,000 on subscriptions each. SUBSCRIPTIONS!! It’s what $100 a year for rivals or scout per school. Wow.

  10. lush 02/05/2008 at 5:44 PM #

    the velvet cloak in condos are going for a hell of a lot more than 75k. i saw a few listed the other day on allen tate and fonville morrisey for over 200k

  11. Noah 02/05/2008 at 8:11 PM #

    Those must be the multi-room suites. They’ve got an ad on their little sign outside that says they have units going for $75. Might be $85. It was under $100K.

  12. wufpup76 02/06/2008 at 12:13 AM #

    clem haskins!!!!! … looooooooooool!

    he could cheat with the best of them … like jim harrick and jerry tarkanian before him … that is priceless!

    (sorry for the hijack!)

  13. DFMo 02/06/2008 at 11:41 AM #

    Careful with your comments on $$ vs rankings till the day is over. UNC already has 2 signings today of 4 star players and a third rumored to sign with UNC. They’ll prob move up.

  14. Packaholic1 02/07/2008 at 12:24 PM #

    Is Duke still ordering up hookers for their recruits?

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