Friday Bytes

Some quick bytes of current news:

* Last night was good to the Wolfpack basketball team. South Carolina squeaked out a victory over Providence and Villanova mounted an awesome comeback to beat LSU. I watched some of the Nova-LSU game and was fascinated on the impact that good officiating had on LSU’s ability to build a big lead. I’m more convinced that our game with Nova would have produced a margin of victory of ten or more points if we had decent officials.

* In fact, last night’s college basketball action was enough to move NC State’s strength of schedule rank from 33 (yesterday) to 29 (today). OF COURSE the RPI is grossly early and means nothing right now, but it is interesting to note that the Wolfpack has SIX games remaning against teams currently ranked in the RPI’s Top 20. In short, SOS will not be a detriment to our bid for an NCAA Tournament bid this year.

* The Sporting News is making some comments about Michigan’s interest in NC State Head Coach, Tom O’Brien. As scary as a thought that may be, I don’t find any supposition of a mututal interest between the entities as very credible at this point.

Two other interesting names recently were dropped in my lap: N.C. State’s Tom O’Brien and Missouri’s Gary Pinkel. O’Brien has been at N.C. State just one season, but he is a perfect fit in Ann Arbor. He’s a Navy grad who has coached at high-minded academic schools such as Virginia (as an assistant) and Boston College (as head coach). Plus, O’Brien is one of the nation’s best coaches.

* This morning it appears that Michigan and Rutgers’ Greg Schiano are hammering out a deal. I think Schiano is an awesome choice. You can read a nice biography of him by clicking here.

* The N&O reminds us that the couple of dozen Arizona State Basketball fans in the world are ‘eating up’ their still new head coach, Herb Sendek. I am not going to harp on the article very much because, frankly, a coach that went 7-22 against Division One opponents last year and didn’t win a conference game until the last couple of weeks of the season (2-16) typically doesn’t warrant a lot of commentary. But, I did find it very strange the author of the article was a guy named Edward G. Robinson, III whom none of us have ever heard of. (With a name Edward G. Robinson, III is, but with a name like that he just feels like he just finished a stint with the Daily Tar Heel.

* You may remember that the N&O tacitly criticized Sendek last year for a lack of class after Herb refused to give any comments/interviews to the local media who had treated him extremely well and with too much protetction during his ten years in Raleigh. (Even Tom O’Brien gave a ‘departure’ interview to the Boston Globe and TOB’s experience in Boston was more tenuous and strained than Herb’s in Raleigh). You have to wonder how this impacted the use of Edward G Robinson, III in this story.

* I hate to ruin “Trey’s” comments with a dose of reality but I just can’t help myself on a couple of things:

If Sendek, 44, builds an ASU basketball program with half the consistency he found at N.C. State — five consecutive NCAA Tournament berths from 2001 to 2006 — they will crown him a hero and draw his face on T-shirts for years to come.

* Dear Ed, If Sendek builds an ASU basketball program with half the consistency he found at N.C. State — five NCAA Tournament berths in ten years — then ASU will achieve five NCAA Tournaments over the next twenty years. How do you conclude they will crown him a hero for that?

* I am not even going to bother spending time discussing the comments about ASU’s ‘exciting offense’ that was mentioned in the article. I just think back to this little entry from last year for a laugh. Wait…I don’t have to think back to last year. I watched this year’s opening game between ASU and Illinois and saw the Sun Devils score their first basket of the season after Illinois scored 20 consecutive points to take a 20-0 lead. Talk about exciting!

* ASU lost to Illinois by like 23 or 24 points. The next night Illinoise lost to Duke by 13. I’m sure that secrectly Sendek appreciated the opportunity to not ‘improve’ on his 3-21 record vs Coach K. In the ASU-Illinois game ESPN couldn’t praise Herb more for the amazing job that he did at NC State. I would have loved to have seen how they reconciled this with a 3-21 record vs Duke on the next night.

* To be fair, Sendek does deserve some credit for exorcising some demons already from his time at ASU. Take for example the Sun Devils huge win over Princeton this year. Sendek couldn’t beat the Ivy League’s scholarship-less Princeton Tigers in two separate attempts while at NC State, including a home loss in including a loss in Reynolds Coliseum. So, this year’s win had to be a big one.

* Funny. Does this sounds familiar? After explainig that ASU just couldn’t find a quality opponent to open with – remember how ‘scared’ everyone was to play NC State for years? – ESPN press play on the repeat button:

Arizona State is on the right track, but the players need some time to get to know each other and the system.

* Ah yes. Just give him some time! Right, national media?

* Lastly, “Hard Luck Herb” got some good news when it was announced that Arizona’s Lute Olson will not coach this year. This can’t be good news for the UA program, but definitely will provide a window of opportunity for Sendek’s ASU program. Hopefully he can take better advantage of that transition than he did when UNC employed four difference basketball coaches in a a six/seven year period while Sendek was at NC State.

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72 Responses to Friday Bytes

  1. LRM 12/07/2007 at 11:46 AM #

    The minute I saw that column this morning (which is never a good way to start out your Friday), my first hope was that SFN wouldn’t waste a breath mentioning it. I should’ve known better.

    We’re still (obviously) obssessed. And yes, I said “we.”

  2. StateFans 12/07/2007 at 11:50 AM #

    ^ Please note that “we” simply used the N&O’s article to comment. We dion’t often focus on the topic anymore. It IS relevant to NC State. We still talk about Jim Valvano and he coached at State for the exact amount of time as Herb.

  3. Mr O 12/07/2007 at 11:51 AM #

    All valid commentary. Herb should be thrilled with the opportunity he has in Phoenix. Good pay, Pac 10 job, great place to live, etc…I hope he does well out there and think that he will. He is a much better coach now than when he was first hired here at NC State. We gave him an incredible opportunity and over time he learned how to produce fairly solid teams at NC State. It will be interesting to see how he does out there. At least it gives me a reason to watch the Pac 10.

  4. LRM 12/07/2007 at 11:57 AM #

    Yeah, maybe I’m the one with the problem?? haha.
    After all, he’s one of the few people that to this day just the mention of him can still get me riled up…

  5. bTHEredterror 12/07/2007 at 11:59 AM #

    I agree with StateFans. Does this article not seem measured in both breadth and timing? You won’t find any mention of Matt Doherty down at FAU, but Herb in ASU gets a three page fluff job in a paper 3000 miles away?

  6. LRM 12/07/2007 at 12:02 PM #

    Terror,
    I thought the same thing. Almost seemed like posturing to me.

    Also, now looks like Schiano is staying at Rutgers (smooth transition to stop myself from talking about Herb).

  7. bTHEredterror 12/07/2007 at 12:08 PM #

    The Calipari Gambit in full use, LRM.

  8. WTNY 12/07/2007 at 12:11 PM #

    A few months ago, he discovered Frank Luntz’s book “Words That Work” and has tried to apply its concepts.

    Intrigued by the book’s central theme of using clear and precise words to ensure listeners hear an exact message …

    That made me laugh…

  9. Mike 12/07/2007 at 12:17 PM #

    When I read that article this AM, thought I was going to lose my breakfast. FWIW, Robinson is the high school reporter for the N&O. Guess he is taking on some new assignments. It was very obvious reading the article that he must have read SFN, as he said (I dont rememeber the exact quote) there were some bashers who hide in anonymity on internet boards.

    Herb must have pictures of “Trey” or something for him to write this fluff piece on a coach who was 7-22. The again, that floor covering for new puppies would write a fluff piece on a football coach who went 4-8 in his first year.

  10. RAWFS 12/07/2007 at 12:25 PM #

    I love the “hiding in anonymity” crap. Writers never use pseudonyms and broadcast personalities never have on-air names, right? Sure. Right, whatever. And I have some nice beachfront property in Ashe County to sell you too.

    That line of thinking is just another “holier than thou” MSM tactic that’s essentially a strawman when one thinks it through — because it does nothing to address the real issue, the criticism.

    I would just let this one be like water off of a duck’s back were I you guys. Consider the source, consider the logic and lack of thereof and you’ll be bothered a lot less by it.

  11. bTHEredterror 12/07/2007 at 12:46 PM #

    /\Good point, if not for anonymity, there would have been no Watergate. And don’t reporters still use their own “anonymous” sources, despite the need to publicly disaparage or dismiss alternative sources that they routinely boost material and story ideas from?

    Sour grapes at one of the many sources of their own lessening influence.

  12. JimValvano 12/07/2007 at 1:01 PM #

    Just in case he comes back to check this place out… … …

    My name is Robert Abernethy and I think Herb Sendek leaving N.C. State was the best thing he ever did for N.C. State.

    How’s that for anonymity?

  13. JimValvano 12/07/2007 at 1:02 PM #

    I hope he publishes that in his next article.

  14. Mike 12/07/2007 at 1:09 PM #

    The other interesting point in the article was how HWSNBN has become a nice guy. He is doing all the things we wanted and refused. While I have no personal dislike for the man, I am happy to see him change and hope the time here was good for him personally. His attitude and standioffishness (is that a word?) was one of my big complaints.

    Still cannot figure out how the high school beat writer did this story though……….

  15. zahadum 12/07/2007 at 1:12 PM #

    Can one of you RPI gurus help me understand why Davidson is so low right now? They’re at 132 despite having held their own against both Duke and UNC. The only bad loss they’ve had was their last game against Charlotte.

  16. packbackr04 12/07/2007 at 1:23 PM #

    we better watch out against Davidson, they scare me alot

  17. StateFans 12/07/2007 at 1:23 PM #

    ^ “having held their own” means nothing. You have to WIN some of those ‘holding your own’

  18. primacyone 12/07/2007 at 1:28 PM #

    “Plus, O’Brien is one of the nation’s best coaches.”

    Ann Arbor is too far away from Charleston. NC State or bust for TOB. Isn’t that what he said?

  19. VaWolf82 12/07/2007 at 1:30 PM #

    BobLee had a line about the N&O that went something like:

    If credibility was measured in pennies, the N&O couldn’t buy a gumball.

    In a nutshell, BobLee captured the reason for the decline in MSM popularity and the rise in internet blogs. From Dan Rather to Barry Sanders, the MSM has made (and continue to make) absolute fools of themselves with no help from outside sources.

    Any blog as poorly written and fact-checked as the average newspaper article, will be shunned as well. Anonymity doesn’t provide some sort of magic shield for blogs. Any source that it is accurate and entertaining will find readers…..and the converse of that fact is also true.

  20. zahadum 12/07/2007 at 1:30 PM #

    SFN,

    Are you saying that margin of win/loss isn’t part of the calculation? Or that it is, but the actual win/loss is much more heavily weighted?

  21. StateFans 12/07/2007 at 1:31 PM #

    ^ super comments that should be bronzed

  22. VaWolf82 12/07/2007 at 1:38 PM #

    Can one of you RPI gurus help me understand why Davidson is so low right now?

    The RPI is not that complicated. Win games against good competition and you will have a good RPI ranking. Davidson is 2-4….of course their RPI will stink. SOS only increases your RPI so much….teams with losing records will usually have poor RPI rankings as well.

    A quick glance through the rankings at kenpom.com shows that the highest ranked team with a losing record is Louisana Monroe at 73 (if I didn’t overlook someone).

  23. packgrad93 12/07/2007 at 1:39 PM #

    “The minute I saw that column this morning (which is never a good way to start out your Friday), my first hope was that SFN wouldn’t waste a breath mentioning it. I should’ve known better.

    We’re still (obviously) obssessed. And yes, I said “we.”

    some never miss a chance to bash Herb. sad really.

  24. VaWolf82 12/07/2007 at 1:40 PM #

    Margin of victory is not part of the RPI calculaton. The formula consists of weighting factors on

    Adjusted Winning percentage
    Opponents’ winning percentage
    Opponents’ opponents’ winning percentage

    The adjust winning percentage gives more credit for a road victory than a home win.

  25. zahadum 12/07/2007 at 1:44 PM #

    Thanks, that makes sense. And I suppose it helps remove the temptation some coaches might have to run up the score.

    I just have a hard time not being a bit sceptical about any system that ranks Miami #1 in the nation, no matter how early it is.

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