Wildcats, Officials Can’t Stop 4-1 Pack, 69-68

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A HORRIBLY officiated basketball game and the Wolfpack’s achilles heel of poor rebounding and free throw shooting was almost too much for Coach Lowe’s troops to overcome. But in the end, Gavin Grant‘s 2 (of 3) free throws with 0.4 seconds remaining lifted NC State to the Old Spice Classic Tournament Championship.

* Farnold Degand hit one of two free throws with 20.8 seconds remaining in the game to give the Wolfpack a 67-66 advantage before Villanova took the lead with a rebound and follow-up with 2.2 seconds remaining.

* Winning this tournament is going to be huge for State in March; it is particularly gratifying to ‘get back’ the UNO loss from last week. Now we have to hope that UNO, Rider, USC and Villanova all have fantastic seasons. Before the season, I pegged our record to be 4-1 right now. Of course I would have never predicted how we got to this 4-1, but in hindsight I think that this is the best 4-1 that we could have been.

* It only took the ESPN announcing crew until the last minute of the game to FINALLY highlight one of the bad calls against State. Fran Fraschilla commentated the entire game from the Villanova perspective and Len Elmore…well, Len Elmore can bite me.

* State just won two close games in a row by one possession. What an amazing change from the trend prior to Coach Lowe’s arrival in Raleigh.

* The ACC had a little stumble about a week ago, but since then the conference has really succeeded and seems to be out performing what some people expected heading into the year. The ACC is a combined 51-10 after play on Sunday.

* Coach Lowe has stated that we will have different players step up for us at different times this season and tonight was no exception. Ben McCauley played great in the first half and shooting guard, Courtney Fells was clearly the player of the game scoring 21 points on 6 of 9 shooting from the field including 4 of 6 from the three point line.

* State shot a fantastic 46.7% from the three point line. If the Wolfpack can just shoot at a 35%+ clip from behind the arc (and shoot 70% or better from the free throw line) then we will win a lot of basketball games this year.

* Any “old schoolers” out there remember Walker Lambiotte nailing two free throws with no time remaining on the clock to lift the Wolfpack to a win in an early season tournament in the mid 1980s?

* One of the things that I love the most about the internet is that forums exist for others to help validate my own opinion. I thought that the officiating and announcning tonight were both very, very challenging. So, you can understand how much I loved checking in on some of the message boards and seeing an inordinate amount of fans making similar comments. On one thread two posters with excellent historical reputations for objectivity whose opinions I respect more than most had chimed in back to back on a thread titled “Reffing in the Nova Game”.

There is absolutely no way that the ref that called that last foul on Nova was actually on the court the rest of the game. I dare anyone to prove it. The fact is, State got royally jobbed all night and for the Nova fans to actually boo at the end of the game was pretty sweet revenge actually. Take the refs and their phantom foul calls and over-the-back no calls out and we win by double figures IMO.

ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC. This was as bad as the Alabama game 2 years ago. Unreal. We would have won this one by 10-15 with honest refs.

I will add that the announcers might as well be wearind Nova jerseys as well. Elmore needs to do a better job of sticking up for the ACC. If I see that 70 year old, no neck midget reffing on of our games again I am going to vomit.

Even though we won I am still pi$$ed. No calls on over the back. Phantom fouls to give them multiple three point plays. JJ geeting hammered time after time with no calls. Every single loose ball out of bounds went to Nova. Hopefully these guys go back to refereeing junior high games in Boca Raton now that the tournament is over.

More fantastic comments from BJD are included below:

* Sid could give a clinic on effective working of the officials. Make your point emphatically, but don’t show the ref up. Although the foul against Grant was legitimate, 9 times out of 10, it isn’t called. I firmly believe it was a make up call.

* Another great sign – Sid and Ben share an enthusiatic post-game hug. I think those issues are behind us as well. It can and will be different guys on different nights.

* Yes, I know he bricked one of the free throws. But we have no chance to win that game without Degand’s hustle play. Not only did he stop Nova from getting an easy two, he skied between THREE Wildcats, and by sheer force of will, got position and drew the foul.

* Hickson is handling the double team better, and his fast break assist was a thing of beauty.

* Fells rose to the occasion all weekend. As we showed in the first two games, it’s hard to run an effective offense without him.

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115 Responses to Wildcats, Officials Can’t Stop 4-1 Pack, 69-68

  1. Pakkfan 11/26/2007 at 12:00 AM #

    “State just won two close games in a row by one possession. What an amazing change from the trend prior to Coach Lowe’s arrival in Raleigh.”

    Amazing how us old timers remember Valvano, Sloan, Maravich, Case. All did a very good job winning the close games.

    It’s time for you youngsters to see some real BB history as we wipe the blight that was Les(s) and Herb off our history.

    We might not finish #3 or better in the ACC this year, but at last we can score on an inbound play, get it inbounds, and run defenses that adjust during the game. There was a reason that ASU was last in the PAC 10 last year and NCSU suprised many on a team that was considered to be to shallow to compete.

    Keep record this year. Herb will win a few more I’ll bet, but after all it’ll still be only the PAC 10.

    Thank goodness for the lunatic fringe aka those that remembered our history.

  2. Packster 11/26/2007 at 12:01 AM #

    Still a lot of negativity here. We are winning now. When we lose we can harp on the negatives. Not that there aren’t any today but I thought we played fairly well for the most part. It doesn’t matter how you win…just that you do.

  3. Packster 11/26/2007 at 12:03 AM #

    Sendek could have never pulled this one out.

  4. MrPlywood 11/26/2007 at 12:06 AM #

    I hear you gumby, but I have to say that in my opinion State fans will usually ackowledge when the officiating is universally bad, and both teams are getting hosed. As opposed to the typical UNX fan who will never admit that any Carolina player has ever committed a foul or violation. Bad officiating can certainly affect the outcome, especially in games with evenly matched teams.

    I didn’t see the game, but I like the look of the scoring, with 4 guys in double figures. Tighten up on the TO’s and rebounding and get ready for Mich St….

  5. choppack1 11/26/2007 at 12:07 AM #

    EB- the color commentating was definitely pro-Nova. Don’t worry, if we do what they’ve done the last few years, it will soon be about us…I honestly believe that.

    *Regarding the team – Degand is struggling at the line, but I absolutely love everything else he is doing at this point. He has a good handle and makes pretty good decisions w/ the ball…Grant, Fells, Costner and Hickson all make worse decisions even for their positions when they have the ball.
    *McCauley had an Evtimovesque game – some great passes and others that were a tad too ambitous.
    *Guys on the bench – just be ready.
    *Huge make up call at the end of the game. The refs could have swallowed their whistile and no one but a few wolfpack fans would have complained.
    *We’ve got to learn to box out. It’s not hard, everyone on the floor finds a man and puts his ass between the guy and the basket and start backing until your opponent isn’t in a good position to get the board.
    *We have to do a better job of defending the man w/ the ball. We are very susceptible to dribble penetration because we go for too many fakes and don’t always get in a good stance/position. Once someone gets by that initial line of defense, someone else has to step, things then typically breakdown, and when the shot is missed, usually the other team has #s and they are getting second chances.

    Now, on to the officials. Watching this game tonight, I remembered why I have almost grown to hate watching my team play. It’s not because of the team or the opposition, but rather the inconsistency and the bizarre nature of basketball officiating. It’s so baffling and contrary to the doctrines of any kind of fairness.

    Villanova’s main half time adjustments was to start hacking and handchecking and crash the boards. Their hands were over us in the second half. Yes, the final tally will probably show that we shot more foul shots, but any idiot can should be able to figure out that an equal # of foul shots doesn’t equal a fairly called game. We do a good job of using our size to defend and we aren’t a very physical team. Same can’t be said for Nova.

    Overall, huge win for the Pack. When was the last time we won any kind of tournament that wasn’t at the RBC and/or more than 2 games?

  6. tvp1 11/26/2007 at 12:09 AM #

    We should have known we’d be in trouble with the officials from the very beginning when we were called, apparently incorrectly, for a backcourt violation.

    This game wasn’t the one-sided screw job the Alabama game was (STILL the most AMAZING, AWFUL officiating I have EVER seen) but it was certainly up there…

    Great to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat for once.

    Non-conference schedule is shaping up nicely. Seton Hall beat UVA today on a neutral floor. Rider and UNO look pretty good. Davidson, Michigan State, Nova are all tournament teams. South Carolina will probably beat some people in the SEC with that backcourt.

  7. Wolf-n-Atl 11/26/2007 at 12:12 AM #

    I was surprised that despite all of our turnovers and being the underdog that we were still leading at the end of the first half, yet as mentioned above you would have never known it since all you heard was how great Nova was. I am also tired of them bringing up Hickson’s team violation as the reason for his slump in the last couple of games.

  8. highonlowe 11/26/2007 at 12:15 AM #

    this game could have easily went either way.

    but we won. go pack!

    unbelievable we were up by 5 at the half with 16 TO’s.
    but we shot 60%, guess that was the difference.

    i just want to get to the point where some bad calls here and there really dont matter because we are up by 20 or 30 points or somewhat of a comfort zone with a couple of minutes to play.

    gopack

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  9. EverettBeez 11/26/2007 at 12:18 AM #

    good point Packster – esp since I realize how negative I was.
    We did pull it out – we never got down on yourself – and we sure as heck stayed in there and kept fighting. If many of us thought it was over with 2.3 seconds left, the men on the court didn’t, and for that they and their coaches deserve a lot of credit.
    It will take some time to get back my old confidence, and not sit here waiting for my heart to be broken again.

  10. Dr. BadgerPack 11/26/2007 at 12:20 AM #

    In all fairness to Sendek, while the exact end-game scenario he probably would have pooched, the overall game he probably would have won the way Fells and Grant were shooting from the perimeter.

    SFN: LOL!!! Puh-lease!! What part of Herb’s OOC performance in games outside of Raleigh lead you to that conclusion? Had Herb been able to win enough games to get to this game, it would have easily ranked as one of his most impressive OOC wins in over a decade.

  11. redfred2 11/26/2007 at 12:21 AM #

    I got excited and reeled off an “f-bomb” or two myself.

    My apologizes gumby”dammit”.

  12. Astral Rain2 11/26/2007 at 12:21 AM #

    I think luck was on State’s side at the end, but the game was horribly reffed.
    Good teams win even when the reffing doesn’t go right. Next Wednesday’s going to be hard as hell, but if it can be pulled off- that would be a huge boost for tourney selection/seeding.

  13. xphoenix87 11/26/2007 at 12:24 AM #

    The backcourt violation looked like the correct call to me. He appeared to jump from behind the half-court line and catch the ball in the air, which is a violation. The most egregious calls were the foul on Gavin near the end when he was pushed and they called the foul on him, and the completely indefensible traveling call on him after the offensive rebound. I couldn’t believe that one.

  14. Rochester 11/26/2007 at 12:28 AM #

    That call at the end was sort of sweet justice, but if they hadn’t blown the one the play before when Grant got the rebound and got hammered and they called him for a travel, we wouldn’t have needed it. There were only a couple of close calls all game that went our way, but it was nice to see everyone stay focused and not let it get in their heads. They just kept on fighting and in the end it paid off.

    As noted several places above, our rebounding was sad considering our front court is supposed to be our strength. We would have blown them out if we hadn’t let every Nova shot turn into a tip drill. That fat kid got 17 frickin’ rebounds before he fouled out. What the hell?

    And why did Nova stop pressing? Thanks for doing us a favor. Maybe Jay Wright was still feeling the love from when we were calling his name during the coaching search. If I were Michigan State and I saw that tape I’d be pressing every possession Wednesday night. I hope we practice beating that soon.

  15. Packster 11/26/2007 at 12:28 AM #

    We still have some heartaches ahead I’m sure….but I firmly believe that we are now capable of beating anyone on a good night.

  16. EverettBeez 11/26/2007 at 12:30 AM #

    Mentioning Hungry Like the Wolf – and Save a Prayer is playing at the end of whatever comes on before Shark on CBS, which is an hour late because of the NFL – ANY WAY – anyone notice the Old Spice Hungry Like the Wolf ad with the guy from “Burn Notice”? LOL – how about that for Karma? Hungry Like the Wolf selling Old Spice during a Wolfpack game. Love it.

  17. redfred2 11/26/2007 at 12:31 AM #

    Dr B,

    “probably would have won”, Come on now.

    Fells and Grant?

    If ” ” were still here those two players would either still be looking over their shoulders and scared to shoot the ball, or they would have already been replaced by the new program saviors, that next wave of 6’10” power shooters.

  18. Dr. BadgerPack 11/26/2007 at 12:37 AM #

    redfred, would you prefer if I said there is no way Sendek would have LOST that game? Afterall, he wouldn’t have scheduled that tournament to begin with. 😉

  19. EverettBeez 11/26/2007 at 12:40 AM #

    Choppack – thanks for confirming my sanity. though I know all the christmas tree lights have left me light headed.

  20. one00_proof 11/26/2007 at 12:49 AM #

    Doug Gottlieb = tool

    for anyone who saw his comments on college gamenight.

  21. RBCRowdy 11/26/2007 at 12:55 AM #

    Villanova is/was a ranked team. Quality competition will make you do things like turnovers, bad shots, and poor rebounding. We won and played much better than Thursday and Friday. Take it, move on, get ready for MSU and a lot of full court presses. Go Pack!

  22. WolfAce 11/26/2007 at 12:57 AM #

    ESPN video Highlights (not very good though, these are always mostly talking):
    http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3127559&categoryId=2459792

  23. highonlowe 11/26/2007 at 12:57 AM #

    speakin of tournaments,

    when was the last time we actually played in an early season tourney and actually won the thing

    i felt like this was a legit tourney and we won.

    i thought we played against some really good competition.

    it wasn’t one of those “sendek shootout” classics to tip off the season with.
    those dont count.

    the last time that i can remember winning any kind of tourney was the acc in 87.

  24. ncsukyle430 11/26/2007 at 12:58 AM #

    Yeah I just saw Gottlieb talk. Not only is he a poor analyst, but I want to go slit his tires for talking about the game like that. If you’re going to speak on the poor officiating talk about the whole game.

  25. gopack968 11/26/2007 at 12:59 AM #

    The officiating certainly seemed bad. ESPN just showed the sequence on SportsCenter and some idiot went on and on about how bad a call it was.

    Bottom Line: If we had not missed 35% of our FT shots it would never have mattered and we would not have needed a bit of a make-up call at the end.

    The team looked better each game. Really encouraging that they seem to be putting some early bumps behind them and coming together. That is one of the intangible benefits of a travel tournament like this. the opportunity for the team to bond amidst competition.

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