NC State 94 Barton 57: ‘More help has arrived’

You couldn’t tell it by his 22-point performance, but Brandon Costner experienced a rare kind of cold spell Thursday night at the RBC Center. It came in stretches when he was sitting on the bench during N.C. State’s 94-57 exhibition victory over Barton, the defending NCAA Division II men’s basketball champion.

“I felt myself getting cold, like I needed to put a heating pad on to warm back up,” said Costner, who played 25 of the 40 minutes. “I didn’t [feel] that last year.”

Chill. Coach Sidney Lowe said State’s starters — each of whom logged more than 33 minutes a year ago — need to get use to playing fewer minutes this season.

More help has arrived

There are plenty of links out there for you to surf if you want more.

A few comments:

* GoPack: ‘Five Wolfpack players hit double figures on the night, led by sophomore forward Brandon Costner, who scored 17 of his game-high 22 points in the first half. Junior Courtney Fells followed with 16 points, while senior Gavin Grant had 14 and freshmen J.J. Hickson and Tracy Smith had 11 each. Fells led the team with seven rebounds, and Costner added six.’

* Costner was…Costner

* Degand turned in the kind of line that will win State a lot of games this year. Pack Pride: “The quick point guard finished up with eight points, six assists, two rebounds, two blocked shots and a steal, with just two turnovers, in 28 minutes. Degand drilled all six of his free-throw attempts, in addition to showcasing impressive speed that will occasionally need to be slowed down.”

* Courtney Fells’ statistics looked more like a Gavin Grant line as he logged 7 rebounds along with some blocked shots, 2 assists and 3 steals in route to scoring 16 points.

* JJ Hickson rushed things in the first half but settled down in the second. N&O: “J.J. Hickson, the McDonald’s All-American, also contributed 11 points, plus five rebounds and three steals. He is big, strong, physically mature and eager to shine. At times he rushed offensively. But that’s a correctable flaw for the player counted on to spell Ben McCauley in the post.”

* Tracy Smith is about an inch or so shorter than I expected. But, he was composed and scored nine points in the first half. N&O: “Freshman Tracy Smith looked smooth and composed coming off the bench, scoring 11 points in 11 minutes, and said “this gives me a lot of confidence.”

* A look at the box score reveals a nice distribution of minutes. In regular season games I expect Hickson’s minutes to increas, Ferguson’s minutes to be 100% replaced by Javi Gonzalez, and then some game by game adjustments based on match-up advantages and who has the hot hand on the evening. You may see Fells and Grant log just a few less minutes each due to line-up shifts where Costner is moved to the wing to make room for Hickson (and even Smith).

* The same idiots on the “Idiot Boards” who thought that Trevor Ferguson was going to help the Pack last season are perplexed at why Simon Harris didn’t play more last night. Really? Who do you want to bench, Einsteins? There are only 120 minutes to split amongst Gavin Grant, Brandon Costner, Tracy Smith, Dennis Horner and JJ Hickson in the front court. Do explain how you would manage this situation other than petitioning the NCAA to add a sixth player on the court.

* For more on the rotation GoPack gives us the following: “Lowe was particularly impressed with the way Degand, a sophomore transfer from Iowa State who sat out all of last season, handled the offense, dishing out six assists with only two turnovers in 28 minutes of play. When Degand was out of the game, the Wolfpack relied on Fells and Grant to bring the ball up the court, which will likely be the case until injured freshman Javi Gonzalez recovers from the torn ligaments in his thumb that will likely keep him out until mid-November.”

As for the Wolfpack’s weaknesses –

* State needs to exercise much more dominance in rebounding when playing such a smaller team. If you remember, the Pack was not a great rebounding team last year, but improved dramatically by year end. I think that rebounding will naturally improve the more minutes that JJ Hickson logs.

* Coach Lowe commented on State’s inability to stop Barton’s dribble penetration. There is NO DOUBT that the Wolfpack’s biggest deficiency last year was defense; and therefore defense represents the biggest opportunity for improvement. Degand and Javi Gonzalez have the athletic ability to help control the opposing point guard’s dribble penetration. Our wings have to get better at mixing their athleticism with their height advantage on defense.

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67 Responses to NC State 94 Barton 57: ‘More help has arrived’

  1. Rick 11/02/2007 at 3:49 PM #

    “we will shoot 3’s when they’re open against a zone. why post a against double team when Costner is wide open for 3?”

    Why even copy my post to respond like this? It has nothing whatsoever to do with my point. When your Daddy was here our zone offense was to shoot threes whether we were hitting them or not. Now we will not be attacking zones that way.

    “They’re plenty of ways to attack a zone, but great, quick passing & hitting a few 3’s is the fastest way to force the other team to get out of it.”
    I think Herb has his hand crammed up your anus and is using you like a puppet.

  2. Rick 11/02/2007 at 3:50 PM #

    “Sid is smart enough to pound it inside when there’s an advantage & spot-up for 3’s when that’s the advantage.”

    Yes, SID is smart enough to see that. Thus why he is here.

  3. packgrad93 11/02/2007 at 4:00 PM #

    “our zone offense was to shoot threes whether we were hitting them or not. ”

    so we miss a few 3’s & we can’t shoot any more cause “we’re not hitting”? Good shooters keep shooting. Don’t think Sid will say, “hey guys, we’re not hitting out 3’s tonight so stop shooting them.”

  4. Rick 11/02/2007 at 4:03 PM #

    Are even reading the posts you are responding to? Your posts do not correlate with the quote you are adding. Maybe you are mixing up the Az State posts with the NC State posts.

  5. RAWFS 11/02/2007 at 4:06 PM #

    Hitting the outside shot is one way to break down a zone defense. The best way is dribble penetration, especially against a 2-3 zone because there are gaps in the middle and when the zone collapses there can be a quick kick-out for a mid-range jumper…or a second pass for a layup following the defensive reaction to that pass.

    We’ve all seen that, and I can remember seeing it last year especially.

  6. burnbarn 11/02/2007 at 5:29 PM #

    “He looks like big-footed Charles Shackleford”

    Didn’t Shack wear size 16?

  7. beowolf 11/02/2007 at 5:44 PM #

    Hitting the outside shot is one way to break down a zone defense. The best way is dribble penetration, especially against a 2-3 zone because there are gaps in the middle and when the zone collapses there can be a quick kick-out for a mid-range jumper…or a second pass for a layup following the defensive reaction to that pass.

    We’ve all seen that, and I can remember seeing it last year especially.

    And incidentally, some of those layups can lead to three-point plays. We saw that a lot last year, too.

  8. choppack1 11/02/2007 at 7:51 PM #

    Actually, I think shack wore like a size 20 or 19 or something.

    Guys – lots of ways to beat a zone – Good ball movement, attacking it at the middle – attacking one side, whatever.

    Right now, Sidney’s positioned us to have a very strong inside game. Outside shooting will be crucial for us.

    I wouldn’t read too much into this game. It’s just one game, so we can’t say that Fells will be as effective as he was last night. We can’t say that Degand will be as solid and reliable as he was last night. Long, long journey ahead. I think it will be a fun one.

    What I do hope – and there was evidence in the NIT and last night – is that these guys realize the type of effort required night in and night out to be a special team. I don’t think that realization was there in some key early conference games last year – games that could have resulted in us going to the NCAAs instead of the NIT.

    Unfortunately, Sidney really couldn’t bench anyone because of the personnell issues. This year – that ain’t the case. I’m looking forward to seeing how we defend w/ almost every position having a strong back-up possibility. (Thank you Sid!)

  9. Stoner 11/02/2007 at 8:39 PM #

    I don’t know how much you can read into a game against a D-II school, to figure out what this team will be like in this season.

    It’s a young team and will have growing pains.

    Will be interesting to see the guard rotation, once Javi and Johnson are able to play.

    As far as perimeter shooting goes, I think Horner, Costner and Fells would be our primary three point shooters this year.

  10. highstick 11/02/2007 at 10:13 PM #

    Who was broadcasting the game on radio? I was coming back from Wilmington through Raleigh and Chapel Hole and don’t think the game was on WPTF. Heard a few minutes of the Duke game, but never picked up a station carrying State.

  11. VaWolf82 11/02/2007 at 10:27 PM #

    don’t think the game was on WPTF.

    Especially since they don’t carry State games any more. WRAL is the lead station now. gopack.com lists the entire Wolfpack Radio Network:

  12. redfred2 11/03/2007 at 12:08 PM #

    packgrad93, you’re right again, consistently shooting the three can break down a zone defense. But then what do you do when force man defense and basically eliminate the premise of your whole offensive strategy? Aren’t you actually playing into the other team’s hands by bringing them out of the zone when your offensive strategy is based heavily on the perimeter and doesn’t really present a formidable interior threat?

    Inside/Outside balance, along with ball movement and passing, is not only the way to breakdown a zone, but it also affords the opportunity to actually win the ballgame. Which, I think, is why we play the games to begin with.

  13. packgrad93 11/05/2007 at 11:45 AM #

    “But then what do you do when force man defense and basically eliminate the premise of your whole offensive strategy?”

    huh?

  14. redfred2 11/05/2007 at 2:25 PM #

    Sorry, that was poorly typed.

    What I meant to say was, when your offense is basically predicated on perimeter play, facing a zone defense is definitely to your advantage. If you force them out of the zone with great outside shooting, and then don’t have an interior game to pick up the slack, what have you really accomplished?

  15. xphoenix87 11/05/2007 at 3:11 PM #

    Well, at least we didn’t do this…

    MSU loses to Grand Valley State in exhibition

  16. redfred2 11/05/2007 at 11:47 PM #

    xx87, That’d surely be kind of a setback and embarrassing too. Funny to think back to last season last and how we sweated those early exhibition games ourselves. Man, it’s hard to believe that was just one season ago, looking what we have now!!!

    I started to say something about MSU’s Neitzel the other day, and how we needed to figure a way to shut him down. Looks like now there might be a game film on exactly how to do it, with bonus overtime footage to boot.

  17. packgrad93 11/07/2007 at 5:01 PM #

    “If you force them out of the zone with great outside shooting, and then don’t have an interior game to pick up the slack, what have you really accomplished?”

    that’s why we had an inside game too.

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