FSU Preview

As most of you know by now, the writers here at SFN are neither bashful nor delusionally optimistic. So in keeping with those themes, here are the things that I expect to see this weekend from FSU.

FSU OVERALL STRATEGY

Here are a few of the starting assumptions that I would use if I were on the FSU coaching staff planning for Saturday’s game:

– Clearly, this is a game that State can not win, but FSU’s offense could lose.

– The continuing theme in Tallahassee (and around the conference) is that FSU’s offense is the weakest link on the team. QB has been a problem ever since Weinke’s graduation and now Xavier Lee is being given another chance at the position.

– X. Lee is still a work in progress and needs to improve if FSU is going to seriously compete for the divisional title. The State game should be a perfect chance for X to work on his decision making.

– State’s offense is so anemic that no major defensive strategy shifts are needed. This game should be a good opportunity to go past the two-deep and give some promising youngsters some time on the field.

FSU OFFENSE

Most of us vividly remember the 2004 Thursday night game against FSU where both teams combined for about 250 yards of offense. One of the key things that I remember from that game is the extreme conservatism the FSU offense displayed that night as long as they were inside their own 40 yard line. Bottom Line…Chris Rix was not given an opportunity to lose that game.

If I were in charge, I would use the same strategy against State. Inside the FSU 40, there is no reason (regardless of down or distance) for FSU to throw. State’s rushing defense is unlikely to consistently stop either the inside or outside running game. Thus there is no reason to take a chance on giving State a “Pick Six” and giving State points that their offense can’t earn on their own.

However, once FSU moves close to midfield, a worse-case scenario would be to give State good field position that would most likely lead to a FG attempt. Thus once FSU nears mid-field, it is time to open up the play book and give X a chance to show if he’s learned anything.

Based on what I’ve seen against Clemson and Alabama, FSU’s best chance to make some noise this year is for X. Lee to learn when to throw and when to tuck the ball and run. X’s running ability should give FSU some more offensive options than with Drew Weatherford. However, X needs to make better decisions than he has shown in past seasons. This game should be an opportunity for X to learn while also being able to insure that any mistakes do not lose the game.

As far as the rushing offense goes, the games to date indicate that FSU should have no trouble running between the tackles for consistent gains. I also expect that Antoine Smith to constantly try to turn the corners for big gains. While FSU’s rushing offense is nothing special, State’s run defense has been worse.

FSU DEFENSE

You can’t really expect FSU to make any major shifts against an offense that can’t get out of its own way. I expect man coverage with at least 7 or 8 men in the box to stop the run and the short passes. I would be shocked to see any DB line up deeper than 15 yards from the line of scrimmage (with the obvious exception of the return man on punts).

I expect to see occasional blitzes, but probably nothing that we haven’t seen in the past. I expect to see the DB’s attempt to jump some of the sideline pass routes for a big play. Whether this is by design or just their natural instinct, it’s hard to say.

They may change their defense slightly if the front four are able to get sufficient pressure on Evans. If the front-four are generating pressure and QB hurries, then there would be little need to send additional men.

NCSU STRATEGY

It would be easy to lapse into sarcasm here, but I will attempt to control myself. From where I sit, State has to take chances on both sides of the ball to have any chance to win.

I think that State has to put 8 men in the box and attempt to do something new….stop the run. This includes between the tackles, sweeps to the outside, and QB draws/scrambles. If FSU goes conservative and State can not stop the run, then it will be time to turn the channel.

State needs to stop FSU drives early. Force X Lee to pass, and then State will have some chance to generate points and/or good field position. Force FSU to punt and give Blackmon a chance to do something special.

On offense, State has to depend on a short passing game even though everyone in the stadium knows what is coming. One key is for the short passes to be past the line of scrimmage so that a few yards is gained even with good coverage and tackling. Forward passes behind the LOS will likely be as effective as State’s rushing offense has proven so far this year.

State does not have many cards to play on offense. This means that State has to be very good using the ones that they do have. Even if State plays their best game of the year, it looks to me like they will need some additional assistance from FSU. I watched Chris Weinke set a conference record for interceptions and give State their first victory over FSU. So there’s always a chance, even if it is miniscule.

About VaWolf82

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45 Responses to FSU Preview

  1. EverettBeez 10/05/2007 at 1:50 PM #

    duh – thanks VaWolf. That’s what a PhD gets you – the ability to over look the most obvious.

  2. El Scrotcho 10/05/2007 at 2:29 PM #

    Analysis looks right on, though I still can’t figure out how we ever got this habit going of referring to Darrell as BlackmOn instead of BlackmAn.

  3. lush 10/05/2007 at 2:38 PM #

    duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BLACKMAN!!

    im pretty sure we should start this chant before kickoffs, or, play the theme music and have the crowd yell BLACKMAN!! right when he catches it

  4. lush 10/05/2007 at 2:38 PM #

    ^ok maybe after he catches it

  5. bTHEredterror 10/05/2007 at 2:46 PM #

    I think an 18 point spread is about right, though Vegas has been wrong about us all year.

    If you take the turnovers out of any of our games this year, save Clemson, we had a shot. The team is not as bad as it seems, but the turnover problem has hampered us for years and this year the defense is not solid enough to cover for the O.

    FSU shouldn’t blitz as often because they don’t need too. Their front four will likely dominate the line of scrimmage, and there is no reason to help a bad offense by opening passing room. If they blitz it will be 3rd and long in our territory to win extra field position. If they are blitzing heavily it means we established some type of offensive threat, which I doubt.

    On a fanciful note, I recall a previous post where SFN mentioned the Wishbone in jest, but I would love to see Brown as a Lydell Carr/Bettis type FB, and Eugene and Blackmon as the pitchbacks. It’ll never happen because it’s too involved (and somewhat limited) as a system to run on a whim and we don’t have a legit ruinning threat as a QB, but the thought is intriguing. Maybe Stone could be the wheel man in a Tebow-esque fashion. A lot of people hate triple-option football, but thats only because it is essentially unstoppable. It becomes boring to watch if you don’t appreciate the nuance, but that is also the power of it. Mentally it is fatiguing to have the same play run over and over and over with success, and defenses become more susceptible to the gadget plays.

  6. noah 10/05/2007 at 3:00 PM #

    Once again….it ain’t the QB. It’s the line. It’s the foundation of the house. Doesn’t matter if you’re building a ranch, a tudor (or a three-door), french provencal, or an a-frame. If the foundation sucks, the house won’t be there very long.

  7. PackerInRussia 10/05/2007 at 3:34 PM #

    This has nothing to do with State vs. FSU, but just for fun I looked at all of NCSU sports for the month of September and tallied up all of the results:
    Wins: 8
    Losses: 20
    Ties: 5
    Place Finishes: 8th of 20; 5th of 20; 9th of 20; 3 first place finishes; 18th place; 7th place; 2nd place (all of these being CC or some kind of golf or tennis tourney)
    Football is first and foremost and honestly every other team sport could lose and football do well and I wouldn’t really care, but it’s always fun (in a sick sort of way) to take an overall look at NCSU sports.
    Be proud.

    http://www.gopack.com/main/Schedule.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9200&PAGEMO=-1&PAGEDIR=-1

  8. RabidWolf 10/05/2007 at 4:07 PM #

    It may be rediculously wishful thinking, but…..NOBODY GAVE US A SHOT IN 1998 EITHER! There’s a reason that games are on the field and not on paper. Don’t get me wrong, I think it would take either a miracle or a complete breakdown of the Semiholes for the ‘Pack to win.

    Are we still the only ACC school to beat them in their house, or did like VPI or Miami do it after they joined the league??

  9. Mike 10/05/2007 at 4:35 PM #

    Funny thing about the guy who wears #2 for us. The past 3 years, he was Darrell BlackmOn, but this year he is Darrell BlackmAn.

    I wondered why all of a sudden the change. Does that help El Scratcho?

  10. Wulfpack 10/05/2007 at 4:42 PM #

    The line is bad. There is no denying that.

    But when a QB continually throws it up for grabs when there is little to no pressure, it doesn’t help the entire team’s cause. We probably lose all the games we lost even had there been no turnovers, but the scores would have been a hell lot closer. When the defense is on the field for the majority of the game, they are going to wear down and give up points. The offense HAS to do a better job if we have any chance in the coming weeks. I don’t care if it’s three and out and punt punt punt, at least it gives the defense a chance.

  11. Trey 10/05/2007 at 4:54 PM #

    RabidWolf,

    Wake Forest shut FSU last year in Doak.

  12. RabidWolf 10/05/2007 at 4:56 PM #

    “if you pull the turnovers out of the game last week, we had a decent shot!”

    Amen, my brother!! Turnovers have killed this team in almost EVERY SINGLE GAME so far this year!!

    Missed tackles don’t help much, either! The problem I have noticed is that the D players are trying to play the TOB “strip the ball and get turnovers” plan…good plan, but the kids are caught between tackling and trying to strip the ball out. This leads to a LOT of arm tackling which leads to missed tackles and big plays for the opponent. IMHO, TOB should scrap the try to strip the ball all the time philosophy and tell the kids to tackle and hit as hard as they can. HARD HITS CAN FORCE FUMBLES, TOO!

    The entire defense should take a page from “forceful removal of football headgear, volumes 1-3” by Adrian Wilson.

  13. wolfman 10/05/2007 at 4:57 PM #

    Nah, Rabid. WF, Clempsun, and BC have won at FSU as well, but I don’t think Miami has won at Tallahassee since joining the ACC.

  14. RabidWolf 10/05/2007 at 4:57 PM #

    Thanks, Trey, I had forgotten how bad FSU was last year.

  15. ncsslim 10/05/2007 at 5:28 PM #

    I beileve this is the first year that I feel we virtually have no chance with FSU, since maybe ever. Given some of the MyCocaine scores, that may say more about my optomistic desires than reality, but by the time MOC left we had pretty much conquered the mystique, while no one else appeared to even be close to doing. I remember a game down there where Tremain went wild early, but we started turning the ball over and ultimately lost by 60 or so (no exageration). The old FSU days.

    Well, we won’t lose by 60, but this ain’t your daddy’s (I guess that means me and others my age) FSU. With our offensive inadequacies, we no longer have a remote chance to compete, and certainly not against the defensively athletic likes of FSU. I assume this will change, but it won’t be this year nor probably the next.

    Surprise me, fellas. Please.

  16. RabidWolf 10/05/2007 at 5:34 PM #

    The “little yellow hankie watch” is officially (no pun intended) on.

    If FSU’s aggressive defense (ala CTC) commits stupid penalties (ala CTC) that may end up giving the ‘Pack more of a chance than they would have otherwise.

  17. john of sparta 10/05/2007 at 10:15 PM #

    18 points? if so, this will be the first game to take the Pack and the Points.
    FSU runs…low margin for both sides. take the under.

  18. Delete-Me 10/05/2007 at 10:47 PM #

    Any chance our players GET UP for this one as they have in the past?

  19. bTHEredterror 10/06/2007 at 12:13 AM #

    The 18 point spread is expected to come from our offense, not theirs. They haven’t lit the world up with turnovers, but we were unable to move the ball on average defenses, which FSU is not, and we have a -13 TO diff. That’s more than double the next worst team in the conference (UNC -6) We are averaging 2.6 TOs a game, giving up 30.0 points a game to their 17.0, 30-17 = 13. And against the past three D1 teams we’ve faced our avg margin of defeat is 19 points. FSU are at home and just beat a Top 20 team, and our last game out we just got lit up on our homefield by a L’ville team that Utah beat to death on their homefield tonight. Sounds to me like 18 is a good bet.

    “Any chance our players GET UP for this one as they have in the past?”

    Been wondering myself, but I don’t think the holes we have can be filled with just some extra want to. I’m hoping our guys get up and we give them a scare, and I won’t be stunned if we beat them…….oh wait, yes I would.

  20. bTHEredterror 10/07/2007 at 12:44 AM #

    BJD95-Right on it as usual.

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