Wednesday Traveling – TOB’s Return

I’m traveling today. We’ve been very active posting entries on the site over the last week, so please take some time today to scan through all of the entries & conversations that you may have not have had time for. I think the conversations being had here recently have been very insightful.

Real quick — This link will take you to Pack Pride’s webrun that will guide you to some interesting articles in today’s media that focus on Coach O’Brien’s return to Chestnut Hill to face his old team led by a new offensive coordinator.

If you REALLY want to get a relatively fair picture of an educated BC fan’s perspective on TOB then you should click here and do your research Man, it sounds a lot like Herb Sendek’s time in Raleigh. As a Wolfpacker, you HAVE to take advantage of a BC fan who is level-headed and realistic enough to carry on a decent sports conversation; as most of you have experienced on internet message boards there doesn’t seem to be very many of those out there.

At BC, (O’Brien) brought the football program a sense of stability and a degree of success that was not there in the Dan Henning era, which was tainted by a gambling scandal that could have mushroomed into something much bigger if not for a major housecleaning not only in the football offices but the entire athletic department.

In other football news, UNC travels to ECU this weekend in what I term “The Nuclear Bowl”.

Feel free to discuss whatever interests you in our comments section.

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56 Responses to Wednesday Traveling – TOB’s Return

  1. noah 09/06/2007 at 2:00 PM #

    Special seasons…

    Just out of curiousity, what would State football fans consider their special seasons?

    I’d probably mention:

    2002, we finished fourth, but won 11 games, beat Notre Dame in a good bowl….

    1994, we finished second, went to a nice bowl, beat a good UVa team. That team was a surprise to me considering how we ended 1993.

    1986, we finished second by a frigging HALF game and played in a nice bowl. That team was a total shock to me after the Tom Reed years.

    1979, we won the conference for the last time…no bowl.

    1978, nine wins, beat UNC and beat a good Pitt team in the Tang Bowl (two years off a national title and they’d go 11-1 the next year).

    I was born in 1973, so those are the ones I can recall during my lifetime. I would imagine some folks would list some of the Holtz years and maybe 1967.

    So, win totals for those years — 11, 9, 8, 7 and 9. One conference title.

  2. RickJ 09/06/2007 at 3:44 PM #

    “In the entire history of BC football…since 1893…114 years….they have had 8 or more consecutive winning seasons a grand total of 2 times! Once from 1913-1925…and again in the last 8 seasons under TOB.”

    NC State has never had a streak of 8 or more consecutive winning seasons. The closest we came was 7 years – from 1988 – 1994.

    Noah – Holtz won his championship in 1973 so the year of your birth was a great year. Earle Edwards won three ACC championships outright (1957, 1964, 1968) and tied for two more (1963 & 1965).

  3. Cosmo96 09/06/2007 at 3:55 PM #

    Partialqualifier,
    Check out the scathing retort to your post on the BC blog:

    “Facts:
    TOB @ NCSU: 0 Wins, 1 Loss”

    Ooooo, I guess you got put in your place…
    Seriously, what are they, a bunch of 11 year olds over there?

  4. partialqualifier 09/06/2007 at 4:23 PM #

    Yea Cosmo..I saw that.

    It was childish, but seriously when faced with those numbers what else can you say? LOL! I was actually shocked myself at how little success BC football has had in their history. I mean…not that we have had much cause we haven’t. But based on their expectations of TOB I figured maybe in the 50’s or 60’s they were beating Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas, etc and competing for Nat. championships. I mean how else could you so rabidly dislike the winningest coach in the schools history? I thought maybe it was like us with Herb. Yea he won more than Les, but compared with our history he wasn’t doing much. But when I checked out the history of BC football I was shocked at how mediocre it was compared to the fans dissing of TOB!

  5. beowolf 09/06/2007 at 5:00 PM #

    Noah, I’d consider 2000 a special season: Rivers’ first year, comeback wins galore, ending losing streaks against UNC and Georgia Tech, first bowl win since ’94 — and what a memorable game that was, coming from down 24-0.

  6. packgrad93 09/07/2007 at 12:18 PM #

    “My problem with TOB is that he never embraced BC publicly”

    interesting quote from the article. I call BS. If TOB won more this idiot would be loving TOB. Just like folks who said they’re glad Herb is gone because he didn’t show enough emotion or publically say the unc game was most important is BS. Saying you’re glad he’s gone because of his record is one thing, anything else is bull.

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