Technician: Passing Out Not An Option

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As the N.C. State football team was falling to Clemson Saturday, there was an even bigger problem in the stands — dehydration. This problem was not confined to just a few people. Approximately 100 people had to be treated, with six having to be transported to Rex Hospital. Luckily, there were no serious injuries, but next time temperatures rise, the situation could be different.

Students and other Pack fans sitting in Carter-Finley had few options to cool off and hydrate on Saturday afternoon. The lone option was to buy a $3 bottle of water, which all sold out by halftime. There weren’t any other mechanisms by which fans could cool themselves off or hydrate until bottled water was replenished at the end of the third quarter. These were factors that caused fans to become dehydrated, suffer heat stroke or exhaustion.

Those that come to Carter-Finley should be provided with options of how to keep cool and hydrated. The health of those who attend games must be a high priority to game operations officials.

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80 Responses to Technician: Passing Out Not An Option

  1. roandaddy 09/24/2007 at 7:49 PM #

    First, why would Los Angeles NOT fit that criteria? Or frankly, any school in a large metropolitan area? Add New York, Chicago, even Pittsburg?
    No offense, but this list reads out of a college brochure.
    Most requirements for any 18 year old kid is.. good looking men/women, strong greek system, strong sports teams, and a school that will look respectable on the ole resume. Unless you are view is from a 40 year olds eyets.
    You also clearly left off weather on your list.. which by the way sucks in Ann Arbor, Boston, Seattle, and most of Ohio. No point having all these resources if you have to dig through 3 feet of snow. College kids go home during the best times.. the summer.
    All said.. this is a fun conversation, even though the start of this conversation is water at a football game.

  2. noah 09/24/2007 at 8:21 PM #

    LA isn’t a great college town because it’s about 11 million other things BEFORE it’s a college town. Same for New York. I didn’t list Chicago because I haven’t been there since I was three years old and this was my own personal list. Maybe you missed that part.

    Pittsburgh? Because it’s an ugly, rustbelt craphole.

    I didn’t leave weather off MY list (MY list…not your list, not that guys list or the other guys list…MY list) because I don’t really care about it. If weather was a big deal for me, I wouldn’t list anything in the south because of my strong hatred of heat and humidity.

  3. joe 09/24/2007 at 8:46 PM #

    Pittsburgh is nice these days. They did a lot of work there during the 70s and 80s and it’s not much of a rust belt place any more. One of the last things they did to make it better was to get rid of the round cookie cutter stadium and build 2 new stadiums for FB and MLB. They are also building a new arena for the Penguins.

  4. crackdog 09/24/2007 at 9:38 PM #

    Noah, you put Athens on your list twice, and left off Gainesville, FL, which would be a heck of a place to spend 4 years of one’s life.

  5. noah 09/24/2007 at 9:49 PM #

    Actually, I put Boston on the list twice. I put Athens and Austin.

    I think I mentioned Gainesville as having a great rep…I’ve just never been there.

  6. choppack1 09/24/2007 at 11:22 PM #

    Boston would be a great town to go to college in, but I hesitate to call it a great “college town.” I would put Charelston, SC and Wilmington, NC in the same category. I know that sounds a little contradictory, but I don’t think it is. I think Chapel Hill is a great college town. As is Blacksburg, as is Charlottesville, as is Clemson, Columbus, Knoxville, and Austin. I actually think Greenville’s a good college town. IMHO, in a good college town, the community or area at least revolves around it.

    However, remember how this whole argument started: We were told – as it pertained to FOOTBALL RECRUITING that Boston was the best college town in the country. This simply is not true. Noah – you mentioned diversity – Boston does not have many African Americans. At BC, I swear NC State brought as many as filled the rest of the stadium for BC. Simply put, Boston is one of the whitest towns I’ve ever seen.

    From a football perspective, where would you want to spend your Saturdays – Clemson, SC or Chestnut Hill?

    Remember the context in which this was brought up – that it gave BC an advantage in recruiting. While it’s true that Boston is a great city, when it comes to college football, it’s the equivalent of Major League soccer. And quite frankly, if you’re a college football player, you want to play where it’s a huge deal every Saturday. Otherwise, Penn, Harvard, Stanford and all those other towns would have great football teams. They don’t.

    Finally, I think it’s hilarious that said post got credit for facts when he said BC had more talent than NC State, UNC, Clemson or UVa. Another poster immediately rebutted that NC State had as many players in the pros as BC. We all saw the Clemson game and we all saw the BC game. Clearly, Clemson was more talented. We all know that more pro football players come from the South. Heck, just think of a North Carolina All star team – WRs of Torry Holt and Jerricho Cotchery, Carlester Crumpler TE, Jeff Saturday, C, Locklear, Koostra, on the OL, Willie Parker as RB, Philip Rivers as QB, Mario and Pep on the DL, Adrian Wilson and Terrence Holt as safeties…Yea, North Carolina football sucks.

  7. noah 09/24/2007 at 11:29 PM #

    “Boston does not have many African Americans.”

    Historically, that’s certainly true. However, it has become more diverse and I think the colleges there are much diverse than the town’s population. BU for instance, is 54 percent white. Harvard is 48 percent white. Tufts is 58 percent. BC is 75 percent white…but it’s a Jesuit school, isn’t it?

  8. choppack1 09/24/2007 at 11:40 PM #

    noah – but what percentage of African American’s are there at those schools?

    I’m thinking your definition of diversity and the average football player’s of diversity may be a little different.

  9. choppack1 09/24/2007 at 11:46 PM #

    My new hero:

  10. packpigskinfan23 09/25/2007 at 1:09 AM #

    ^wow!!! that is awesome! anyone have a link for the article?!

  11. PackerInRussia 09/25/2007 at 2:43 AM #

    I’m not absolutely certain, but it looks like this could be the article:
    http://newsok.com/article/3131543
    That video was great. I wish I could have watched the reporter he was yelling at.

  12. PackerInRussia 09/25/2007 at 2:59 AM #

    In response to the BC fan’s article. Great point above about how he was not talking about college towns in general in which case sports may not be the most important thing, but how he was talking about it in the context of getting recruits to come in which case sports (particularly football) comes to the forefront. Second, all the talk about TOB in relation to discipline is more of a response to CTC than anything else IMO. Pee Wee Herman could have come in and we’d be talking about becoming a more disciplined team. I believe it was mentioned on this website by someone that the penalties/game was not hugely different from BC w/TOB and State w/CTC, so there have been different points of view presented on this website. To say that we should not expect more discipline than what we had before is not very reasonable. Third, I think we’re all well aware of BC’s ability to bring in great OL and put them in the NFL. That is another reason for our excitement about TOB. So, to act as if we are not aware of the great O-lines at BC is ridiculous. We’re also aware of that there are good recruits in the NE. You bring up PA. We’ve had a few pretty decent recruits from PA as well and our previous coach saw knew that PA was a good place to recruit (2 come to mind–Marcus Stone and Darrell Blackman). However, no one in their right mind would argue that the NE is a better place to recruit than the south. That would contradict all logic and evidence. Fourth, Boston may be a great college town, but I think that misses the point. NC State is much larger than BC and produces tons more alumni which means much greater support and bigger bucks which doesn’t guarantee success (obviously), but certainly helps. Success comes with support not despite the lack of it. I respect the guy’s opinion, but disagree with some of these things. Of course things will be a little more exaggerated on a message board full of fans of a single school, so don’t be surprised when we look at things through red-colored lenses (no reference to CTC intended).

  13. noah 09/25/2007 at 7:16 AM #

    “noah – but what percentage of African American’s are there at those schools?”

    Granted…not very high.

    Diverse means just that…diverse. It’s not code for “black.” Howard is not diverse.

    Regarding the Okie State coach, I don’t agree with his tactics, but the column in question was complete crap. Her editor should have never run it.

  14. BobLee 09/25/2007 at 7:20 AM #

    …. can there be a better indicator of mid-season gridiron despair than “solataire with a deck of 51” debate on “college towns”.

    To the BC fan that started all this ….. he reminds me of the guy who ate the first egg. Either the bravest fellow on earth or totally nuts ….. but definitely possessing an Internet death wish.

    “best college town” …. whats next “a barbecue debate” ….. Ginger vs MaryAnn ….. pick a Jessica – Alba or Biel ….. Ford v Chevy ???

  15. BoKnowsNCS71 09/25/2007 at 8:30 AM #

    Nice quote of an Eric Heatherly song (a la Statler Brothers) on the “solitaire till dawn” image.

    I always heard the bravest guy was the one who ate the first oyster.

    Oh Ginger, Alba, Jeep….lol

  16. LRM 09/25/2007 at 8:50 AM #

    I don’t know who cracked open that first oyster, but he deserves a statue somewhere for it!!

  17. noah 09/25/2007 at 9:15 AM #

    Ford v chevy…that’s up there with, who would you rather sleep with? Bea Arthur or Margaret Thatcher?

    Yeah, I said it…bring it, you American-car-defending loonies! : )

  18. Elrod 09/25/2007 at 9:44 AM #

    Anyone care to guess how much bottled water there will be at C-F next week for the UL game? I don’t mean carried in by fans, but available at the concession stands. Somebody’s gonna make a killing.

  19. RedTerror29 09/25/2007 at 9:53 AM #

    Girls in sundresses make college towns, period.

    And as far as Dublin being the best bartown…nowhere where a pint will run you $9-10 is much of a bartown, no matter how many bars there are there.

  20. noah 09/25/2007 at 10:09 AM #

    Yer nuts. Dublin is the world’s pub. And they serve the nectar of the gods there. The fact that the dollar is basically toilet paper beyond our borders doesn’t impact the quality of publife in Ireland.

    Other than Trinity College and the pubs, I despised Dublin. It’s a 50 mile wasteland of crappy buildings and gridlocked traffic. Get outside the city and go to the little villages and you’ll see the real country.

    Go to a little village…any of them…there will be 32 people living there and they’ll have 33 pubs. And they’ll all be packed.

  21. lush 09/25/2007 at 11:06 AM #

    give me ford …………. and bea arthur

  22. BobLee 09/25/2007 at 11:40 AM #

    Rue McClanahan was nasty. Bea Arthur’s (Maude) daughter Adrienne Barbeau was also a major “wench”.

    No one has nominated Buies Creek or Cullowhee for Best College Town ???

    Best determiner of “a college town” is number of parking tickets issued per capita. Or # of fraternity charters revoked per decade.

    Anyone got the latest theeyecreature creation? That wuzzle must not be allowed to just go away. Declare him an endangered species.

    BL

  23. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 09/25/2007 at 12:54 PM #

    UNC- Wilmington is a great college town.
    Boone and Cullowhee too.

  24. RAWFS 09/25/2007 at 4:19 PM #

    You would have to put Palo Alto (Stanford) and Los Angeles (UCLA, USC, CalTech, others) on the list.

    As for Dublin, I would definitely put it behind Brussels in terms of bars. In Dublin, beer is a way to get drunk. Hell, most Irishmen I know of (and my stepmother is FROM Dublin) drink Budweiser.

    Belgium is called the “Disneyland of Beers” for no small reason: there are over 450 varieties of beer brewed and served in Belgium. That’s more than Germany, by the way. And like the Germans, they don’t export their best. It most definitely shows in the bars of Brussels, Bruge, Antwerp and even the small villages like Chimay. I would put Kulminator in Antwerp, or Le Bier Circus in Brussels up against any bar in the world for variety and value. And yes, the Belgians have some terrific eye candy too.

  25. primacyone 09/25/2007 at 4:54 PM #

    I’m thirsty. What is the best bar in Raleigh?

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