So What Else Have You Been Watching?

There are plenty of threads around where we’ve dissected State’s weaknesses, but what other teams have you watched and what has surprised you about the games that you have watched? In no particular order, here’s what caught my eye:

Virginia Tech

When VT’s first offensive play from scrimmage against ECU was a play-action pass, you have to wonder what Beamer is up to. Is it:

– New found confidence in Glennon?
– Outstanding bunch of receivers?
– Trying to get ready for LSU?

My VT sources (ie, friends at work) say that this year’s WR’s may be the best that Beamer has ever had. “However, it is a shame that we don’t have anyone that can get them the ball.” (Direct quote after ECU game.) They concluded that the play calling against ECU was geared towards LSU and not ECU. (Guess it still wasn’t enough.)

It seems that many in the national media knew far less about VT than the alums that I work with. Long before they got roughed up in the Bayou, my friends had deep and serious concerns about their QB and OL (sound familiar?). No one has a clue what Beamer will do now, but there are no optimistic projections about BCS bowls now. (The guess is that the freshman QB will get a chance to play his way into or out of the lineup over the next several games against cupcakes.)

Luckily for Tech, no one in the ACC has even half of the offense that LSU displayed Saturday night. Looks to me like the Coastal division will still come down to one of the Techs.

Carolina (East and North)

The game wasn’t even on ESPN 360, so I all saw was the one-line updates at yahoo while I was watching something else on TV. From that less than ideal vantage point, it appeared that the two teams were roughly equal….with ECU having the slight edge.

UNC had 79 yds net rushing, 344 yds passing, 423 yds total offense
ECU had 64 yds net rushing, 406 yds passing, 470 yds total offense

Wake Forest

Has any team face a tougher two-week stretch to open a season? While Wake looked over matched against BC, they hung tough against Nebraska. Only the most delusional Kool-Aid drinkers (is that yellow or black Kool-Aid?) would be shocked with their 0-2 start. It gets a little easier for the Deacs over the next month with Army, Maryland, week off, and Duke.

WF’s two-yard net rushing effort against BC had to disappoint everyone associated with the Deacs. Note that I’m talking two yards total, not per carry.

Hopefully, 236 yards on 53 rushes (4.5 yds/carry) got the Deacon supporters to back away from the ledge. Can I see a show of hands from everyone that expected WF’s passing offense to be ranked 45 spots higher than their rushing offense after the first two games?

On the other hand, with State being ranked 11th in the conference against the run, it would seem that WF has more than enough rushing offense for State’s visit to Winston.

Schedule Alert: WF vs Navy on October 20. This game could be interesting and I hope that it is on TV.

Clemson vs FSU

It is usually a mistake to make a lot of conclusions about an entire season based solely on the first game of the year. However, it is safe to say that Clemson passed their first big test and FSU failed their’s miserably.

Davis had 102 yds on 18 carries and Spiller added 48 yds on 11 carries against FSU. I was actually expecting Clemson’s offensive numbers to be a lot higher because it seemed like they were simply dominating FSU on both sides of the ball. If this game is any indication, it looks like Clemson has done a good job of rebuilding their OL after losing all but one of their starters from last year.

It may be premature to write off FSU, but that’s what I’m doing until I see something that looked a whole lot better than what they showed against Clemson. The new OL coach from WVU and Jimbo are going to have to pick up the pace if they want to justify their salaries.

Based on this game and BC’s first two games, it looks like the Atlantic Division will come down to BC and Clemson.

Virginia

I haven’t seen even one second of a UVa game, but I just have to comment on the whipping they took from Wyoming….23-3 (Ouch!).

However, I have to laugh every time that I read about Al Groh being on the hot seat. Craig Littlepage (UVA AD) learned so little from the Pete Gillen contract disaster that he also signed Groh to a long-term contract (10 yrs?). Since Groh is only in the second or third year of this contract, it may prove to be too expensive him to fire him no matter how poorly UVA does. Wouldn’t it be interesting to know what the buy-out terms are?

It seems to me that State fans should pull for UVA every week except when they play State. The longer that Groh dangles in the breeze, the more chances State will have to get talent from Virginia.

Michigan

Is this the most over-rated team in all of college football? I don’t really have any strong feelings about Michigan one way or the other, but I just have to laugh every time I see something about them on Sports Center.

I have thought that they were over-rated ever since their loss to OSU last year. I could never figure out why so many talking heads thought that they had “earned” a rematch with OSU for the BCS title. I was also never able to figure out how the team that got destroyed in the Rose Bowl was going to be so much better this year. Guess what?…..they’re not!

Louisville

Giving up 265 yards rushing and 290 yards passing to Middle Tenn is not good no matter how you slice it. While State’s offense will probably stop itself, Louisville can’t count on their other opponents being as inept. However, Louisville’s schedule looks so easy that we may not know much more until their last three games of the year….WVU, USF, and Rutgers.

Unbalanced Conference Schedules

I heard Phil Steele talking about the ACC during one of his many radio appearances pimping his college football magazine. He pointed out that BC probably has the ACC’s toughest schedule with GT, VT, and UM as their cross-divisional games this year.

That got me wondering about what the other top contenders had in the ACC this year. So here are the cross-divisional games for the teams that look to be in the top-half of the conference this year:

 

Designated

Opponent

Opponent

 

Rival

#1

#2

FSU

Miami

VT

Duke

BC

VT

GT

Miami

Clemson

GT

VT

Duke

VT

BC

Clemson

FSU

GT

Clemson

BC

Maryland

Miami

FSU

BC

NCSU

At this point in the season, it appears that both VT and BC got the theoretically hardest conference schedules possible (assuming that FSU proves to be a better team than WF).

As I have already seen pointed out in comments to earlier entries here, WF has the easiest possible conference schedule with UNC, Duke, and UVa as their cross-divisional games. With wins in these three games, WF could easily end up in the top half of the Atlantic.

ACC Schedule Alert for this weekend:

BC vs GT in a possible preview of the conference title game.

WVU vs UMd as Slaton destroys the Twerps one last time because the Fridge pulled a scholarship offer at the last minute. (Nothing short of a season-ending injury will keep Slaton from an early entry into the NFL.)

So what’s caught your attention?

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47 Responses to So What Else Have You Been Watching?

  1. xphoenix87 09/10/2007 at 6:23 PM #

    I don’t think anyone is overrating Michigan anymore, not after Dixon went Vince Young on them. Did you see the fake Statue of Liberty play? That’s so awesome, not only do they pull out a rarely used trick play, but then they fake said trick play and get a score off it. Awesome.

    Va Tech is still the class of the ACC IMO, they just ran into a buzzsaw.

  2. Mr O 09/10/2007 at 6:46 PM #

    You should probably put Wake in that chart. They play Duke, UVa and UNC in the other division. FSU, MD, and State are all home games with Clemson on the road being their toughest game left.

    They could still go 6-2 IMO.

  3. wolfman 09/10/2007 at 6:50 PM #

    The ACC pretty much sucks in football again this year. VT has shown what they are made of, and it isn’t BCS material. Neither are FSU, Clemson, Miami, or Maryland, as all are suspect in some fashion, and none will see more than 8 wins this year. Clemson, the best of this bunch, still has no passing game and will get beaten handily by anyone who realizes this. FSU? Miami? Pulleaze. Maryland? Maybe the dark horse, but I think they will get caught by at least one ACC bottom dweller, and definitely by BC and GT. I still think Wake could contend, but they will need someone to knock off BC (twice), which I don’t think will happen. The Pack is still in disarray and will stay in the bottom of the division again. Duke, UNCSux, and UVA are also all terrible and not worthy of much more than a laugh and the back page in the sports section.

    My prediction is BC vs. GT in Jacksonville, with the winner getting a butt whooping against WVU in the Orange Bowl.

  4. VaWolf82 09/10/2007 at 7:12 PM #

    Va Tech is still the class of the ACC IMO, they just ran into a buzzsaw.

    They definitely got taken to the woodshed, but their offense (to date) has been pretty pathetic. They have Ohio, W&M, and UNC before they face Clemson in Death Valley. None of the VT fans at work are making any projections until after they see the freshman QB work against the three weaker teams and then at Clemson.

  5. primacyone 09/10/2007 at 8:26 PM #

    I watched the UNC/ECU game. It was a really great game. It’s being replayed tonight on Time Warner at 8:30 PM EDT. Channel 24 in the triangle. It was on CSTV on Saturday. CSTV is part of the digital sports tier for an extra $2.50 a month, and you get a lot of good local/regional games.

    Again, the game was excellent. What was suprising/not surprising is the fact the ECU has a really good QB AGAIN. This is their second string QB and he is way better than any we have had the last 3 years.

  6. LRM 09/10/2007 at 9:19 PM #

    SEC: The only chance Alabama, Auburn, & Arkansas have to play in Atlanta is in the Peach Bowl. LSU is by far the best team in the nation. It’s going to be interesting in the East now that Spurrier got past Georgia.

    Big 10: Wisconsin and Ohio St looked lethargic against much weaker teams. Penn St won big, but it wasn’t all that impressive.

    Big East: West Virginia might drop 100 on Louisville…and still lose.

    Big XII: Bob Stoops is salivating over the Red River Rivalry this year.

    Michigan/Notre Dame. Pillow fight!!!!

  7. noah 09/10/2007 at 9:24 PM #

    I’m not completely sold on LSU yet. They’re good…they’re damn good. But I don’t think they’re that much better than USC. Hell, I think Cal could hang with them.

  8. highstick 09/10/2007 at 10:22 PM #

    Went to the South Carolina-Louisiana Lafayette game and was not impressed with SC’s defense, but they certainly changed that in the Georgia game. Spurrier’s defintely got a good team in Columbia if they play smart.

    Heard this year’s stat’s on Wofford yesterday and TOB better be ready for a slow grinding ground game from them. Watched them last year and they are very methodical and don’t make many mistakes.

  9. EverettBeez 09/10/2007 at 11:28 PM #

    Auburn is looking weak, but they often do and usually pull it out somehow. Well, luck ran out this week. There is trouble on the plains.

    The “bama folks are so drunk on Sabine-juice, that they can’t make up from down. So, all the folks I know who went to practices & the spring game and such, were useless. They’ve started good, and they’ll make a good season of it.

    Ole Miss . . . lordy. Well, at we won’t lose any parties. But it seems like one set back after another. Friends there tell me that Coach O will win, if he doesn’t get us on probation first.

    LSU, at this point, has to be considered the hands down favorite to win the West, though no one in Alabama can believe it.

    Texas sure struggled against TCU till the 4th Q. TCU is no patsy, but you’d expect a school with 50,000+ students and hundreds of millions in endownments to manhandle the little ole horned frogs a lot more convincingly. I agree, Stoops is salivating.

  10. Todd 09/11/2007 at 12:22 AM #

    LSU/VTech announcers kept saying SEC VS ACC, as if they were bashing ACC. Maybe deserved?

    Did you hear Musberger pretty much defending and forgiving Vick. All you have to do is admit your wrong and say your sorry and that makes everything okay. Vick needs to be shot and Musberger repremanded.

  11. bTHEredterror 09/11/2007 at 3:47 AM #

    Watch that USF game in Chapel Hole, it might be interesting. And they might get Lousiville, who looked suspect in a madden-type game last Thursday.

    Nebraska seems a paper tiger to me, remember that the Wake QB was getting his first start. They will get exposed vs. USC.

    Auburn might have some serious issues. In the SEC, the way they played last week, will get you beat a lot.

    I’ve watched both Bama’s games, and they are suspect on both lines. Arkansas will be a tough out. They are clearly better though. Next year Bama will be formiddable

    Florida didn’t impress me so much, kind of grinding on Offense, except for Harvin. I don’t see them having a great year, but they should be in the mix late.

    LSU looks scary right now, but I’m afraid that is more an indication of what VT is, as much as what LSU is. UNC hung up 31 (430 yds) on that vaunted ECU D on the road, where VT could only muster 10 at home. The same UNC who had 320 yds against JMU at home.

    Texas has looked kind of pedestrian the first couple of weeks.

    And that UVA-Duke game was like watching a train wreck, in quintessential JP/Lincoln Sports style.

  12. BoKnowsNCS71 09/11/2007 at 7:25 AM #

    USF is likely to beat the Holes, Louisville, Rutgers and WV. Darn good team there.

  13. LRM 09/11/2007 at 7:33 AM #

    ^^Carolina plays S Florida in Tampa, not Chapel Hill.

  14. RickJ 09/11/2007 at 8:26 AM #

    I never would have dreamed the Big East with an 8 team league would have better teams in any year than the ACC after we took BC, VPI & Miami. I know expansion has been a financial success but wasn’t the idea to improve football? From my view, it looks like joining the ACC has been a disaster for Miami.

  15. haze 09/11/2007 at 8:53 AM #

    ^ I think Miami was going down either way. Technically, they’re better off in the ACC b/c the competition is so weak!!!

    LSU looked awesome vs. VT but it was a night game in Tiger stadium in week 2. LSU showed nothing against MSU but obviously had a lot more in reserve. They deserve the #2 ranking but I’m not buying them over USC, at least when USC isn’t sleep walking, which they do for about half their games.

    VT has real trouble b/c they have no OL. No OL puts the D on the field a lot and diminishes that formidable group. I think Taylor will be a huge success but it’ll take time. He reminds me of Chris Leak with a little Charlie Ward thrown in.

    UNC deserves a lot of credit for the ECU game. They are better than we are (right now) despite having similar new staff & mediocre talent problems. Yates seems like a decent find.

    ECU looks very solid, though not spectacular. I like our chances against UNC more than down in Greenville. Why is it that we always play the Pirates in our down years? It’s uncanny.

    Wake is a rock solid football team, just a tough schedule at the outset. GT, BC and Clemson look good but it’s very early to judge just how good they really are (i.e. ND and FSU both suck and BC’s O is not as good as I thought).

    UVA is terrible.

    Ann Arbor is going to spontaneously combust if the Irish win. They may fire Carr, literally, like on a spit.

  16. RochesterRedWolf 09/11/2007 at 9:00 AM #

    Miami has clearly had problems, new coach, people getting shot, fights on the field…they’ve already got a top5 recruiting class, it’ll be wait and see with them like with us and a few other teams of course.

    Michigan and Notre Dame…this is no different than Duke and UNCsux getting pre-season ranked in basketball every year just walking on to the court. Not to whine, but these teams are always given free passes, they lose a few, and then all they need to do is win a few for the sportswriters, who are mostly graduates of these schools, to go “yeah, my presason ranking was correct, yada yada yada”

    VT is clearly overrated, so is BC

    Clemson I think will crash and burn as the season progresses.

    FSU i think will right-the-ship, so will Miami.

    Is it me (it can’t be) or do the Tarholes still get prom-queen treatment by the [local] media? Butch Davis seems to be awfully whiny as well.

    I think GT will win the ACC, but alot of that is predicated on them destroying Notre Dame and is ND good or not.

  17. RAWFS 09/11/2007 at 9:01 AM #

    VT has real trouble b/c they have no OL. No OL puts the D on the field a lot and diminishes that formidable group.

    Exactly.

    See: NC State.

  18. RochesterRedWolf 09/11/2007 at 9:08 AM #

    Poor Carolina, why oh why does everyone hate them, even…ECU fans!!!

    [ridiculous pro-UNC crap in the UNC-rag Charlotte Observer]

    Davis is coming to terms with the target that his Carolina blue-clad team always seems to be wearing. The players spoke openly a week ago of the hatred East Carolina’s fan base has developed for the Tar Heels, and the Pirates beat them for the first time since 1975 when Ben Hartman’s last-second field goal sent Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium into delirium.

    Next up: what’s termed the oldest rivalry in the South and the fifth-oldest in the nation. North Carolina and Virginia have played every year since 1919 and will meet for the 112th time.

    “Carolina’s everybody’s rivalry,” Davis quipped.
    ___________________

    Everybody’s rival huh?

  19. Wulfpack 09/11/2007 at 9:19 AM #

    App State is the best team in the state of North Carolina.

    South Carolina/Florida will decide the SEC East. LSU has already won the West, IMHO.

    Notre Dame and Michigan mine as well pack it in. I find it interesting that Tyrone Willingham was fired after his third year in which he went 6-5. You think big fat Charlie has any dreams of going 6-5 with Michigan State, Purdue, USC, BC, UCLA and Navy still on the schedule? Well, at leats they get Duke!

    The ACC really needs GT or Clemson to keep winning. Otherwise, we’ll be lucky to have a single team in the top 15 at year’s end. VT is vastly over-rated and BC will lose a couple.

  20. roandaddy 09/11/2007 at 9:33 AM #

    ^^100 years of NC arrogance has caused them not to have rivals, but to be hated by other schools. You think ECU is bad.. wait until S. Carolina rolls into town. They are fired up, have bought up all the tickets, and have a new chant.. ” WE ARE.. CAROLINA”. haha

    As for my observations… Weak Ten or is it Eleven.. is less than threatening right now. 3-2 OSU over Akron at half? Mich is terrible. PSU is the strongest team right now.

    SEC.. LSU looks awesome, but this weekend will show of Florida is back when they play UT. The rest of the teams could beat up on each other for now.

    This next weekend should better shape the college football landscape when SoCal plays Neb, GT vs BC could be ACC championship, and watch Texas vs UCF.

  21. noah 09/11/2007 at 9:33 AM #

    “Next up: what’s termed the oldest rivalry in the South and the fifth-oldest in the nation. North Carolina and Virginia have played every year since 1919 and will meet for the 112th time.”

    We’ve played Wake Forest since 1910. Considering the abysmal state of UVa football from the Big Bang until about 1986, I’m not sure why anyone would want to celebrate that “rivalry.”

  22. LRM 09/11/2007 at 9:46 AM #

    RickJ,
    I’m curious if the ACC has benefited financially from expansion?? Revenue is distributed evenly in the ACC, so now it’s split 12 ways instead of nine. We haven’t put a second team in a BCS bowl yet, which seemed to be the driving argument for expansion and for those of us that care, we lost the home-and-home round robin in basketball, which had become distinct to the ACC alone.

  23. noah 09/11/2007 at 9:54 AM #

    “I’m curious if the ACC has benefited financially from expansion??”

    Greatly. The new TV deal was enormous. The ACC title game helps a great deal too.

  24. EverettBeez 09/11/2007 at 10:11 AM #

    ^Even when the title game is poorly attended – as in last year? Of course, Jacksonville is a natural ACC town, so convent for everyone in the league.
    I could almost accept Miami – what league doesn’t need another arrogant, corrupt, drug infested school? But B.C.? Every time I think of it, I hear Aunt Pittypat from Gone with the Wind – “Yankees! In Atlanta!”

  25. RickJ 09/11/2007 at 10:14 AM #

    ^ Below is a press release from the ACC that shows the payout for the first year post expansion. The extra 16.9 million in the TV deal is the key.

    BC and Virginia Tech will reap huge financial benefits by moving to the ACC. The Big East did not distribute money equally and I’m pretty sure Miami was getting close to 10 million their last couple of years in the league. I believe the Big East let’s the team making the BCS Bowl keep most of the money and Miami was doing this most years.

    It is early but expansion seems to have hurt the league in a competitive sense. Football is down and overall, I think it has hurt basketball a little with the extra teams. Success really comes down to National Championships, Final Four and BCS bowl appearances in basketball and football for BCS leagues. The first year under the expanded ACC was not good.

    “The Atlantic Coast Conference lived up to its pledge not to cut the amount of money awarded to its member schools despite expanding from nine to 12 members.

    Schools received an average of nearly $11 million apiece during the conference’s first year with 12 teams. That’s nearly the same amount each school received before it expanded, according to the league’s tax filings.
    Those figures appear to reinforce the ACC’s claim in 2003 and 2004 that once the league expanded to 12 teams, the previous nine members would receive at least the same amount of money from the league despite having to share revenues with three more schools.

    Documents obtained through Guidestar, a Virginia company that tracks nonprofit organizations and charities, show that the ACC allocated an average of $10.88 million to its member schools in 2003-04 – its last academic year as a nine-team league.

    The league added Miami and Virginia Tech in 2004-05, and Boston College completed the expansion when it joined for the following academic year. In 2005-06, the ACC awarded its 12 schools an average of $10.85 million, according to its filing for the tax year ending June 30, 2006.

    The ACC reported several additional sources of revenue last year – an extra $16.9 million in television rights fees after renegotiating packages for football and men’s basketball, an additional $5.7 million from its first football championship game and $3 million more in bowl revenue.”

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