New Jersey At Its Finest, Nebraska At Its Finest

We have always had a simple rule when following college football teams. Never pull for a team farther to the East than Penn State, never pull for a team farther to the North than Virginia(Army and Navy are excluded). Guess what fan base is become crude and obnoxious in less than a year?

Quite a contrast from the good folks in Nebraska.

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46 Responses to New Jersey At Its Finest, Nebraska At Its Finest

  1. CarnifeX 09/11/2007 at 6:40 PM #

    In defense of the Tom O’brien chant, we did utilize that chant at a home basketball game against BC shortly after the change was announced. Plus, Tom O’Brien makes for a very nice chant 😉

  2. vtpackfan 09/11/2007 at 6:55 PM #

    So a couple thousand drunk private school children chant something at a football contest. When the time comes for BC another football school from the ACC that’s Bowl eligible to be invited to a New’s Years game, their couple thousand drunkard hoard will be passed over again.

  3. Mr O 09/11/2007 at 7:11 PM #

    The crowd wasn’t loud at all. In fact, it is probably the least intimidating place in the ACC except for Duke and Wake.

    If even a portion of our crowd did a FU Sendek cheer in the RBC, then we would be crucified in the media.

  4. ncsukyle430 09/11/2007 at 7:57 PM #

    Just to play devil’s advocate, it should be pointed out that we are just as bad if you’ll recall the chant from last year’s FSU game. I think all fan bases are a little more crass and thoughtless just because that is the direction our culture has headed in.

    And “Tarheel Rejects” isn’t that bad, it’s really kind of childish.

  5. ktpritch 09/11/2007 at 8:31 PM #

    Not a part of this thread – but didn’t I see in the paper that one of our bball player is out for the year due to a knee issue. I thought it would have been mentioned by now (though I may have missed it).

  6. TNCSU 09/11/2007 at 9:36 PM #

    ^^ I agree about most chants…Harmless chants that may be tasteless, but do not compare to vulgarity, throwing beer, and even assault against opposing fans — that’s why I mentioned it as childish behavior. BTW, I don’t remember our chant from the FSU game last year. Little help?

    ^^ The bball player is incoming Freshman, Johnny Thomas, from G’boro.

  7. EverettBeez 09/11/2007 at 10:08 PM #

    Tractor57 – from my point of view, Spurrier and all those folks are already rotting in one of the circles of Hell – Columbia.
    Its a perfect fit if you ask me.
    I’ve never met or dealt with fans I dislike more.
    Classlessness, thy name is gamecock.

    The comment about drunken private school students made me thinking the thread had changed to basketball!!

  8. choppack1 09/11/2007 at 11:33 PM #

    Those BC fans have a long way to go. Fans, here’s a hint – when it’s second and 2 and you hold us to 3, that’s not a good play. I’ll give their students – aside from the TOB stuff – they actually did an OK job. They were there – they were wearing their gold, they made most of the noise. I’d say about 1/5 of the fans there were students. The Pack brought a decent contingent as well.

  9. ncsukyle430 09/11/2007 at 11:49 PM #

    The chant was F– the Seminoles, they suck genitals. Clever but not something that helps us being any different from the other fan bases that don’t know how to act at a sporting event. I’m not bashing us, I think that its just a few ruining it for the whole as the case often is.

  10. GAWolf 09/12/2007 at 12:00 AM #

    At least that rhymes and shows some resemblance of effort. I think that’s pretty funny, actually. And I’m pretty damn conservative when it comes to public displays of idiocy… unless I’m at a wedding/reception which totally erases any need to comply witht the usual standards of civility.

  11. Great Dane Guy 09/12/2007 at 8:13 AM #

    That nebraska article was great. Thanks for the link. I wish that stuff got more pub.

  12. PAPacker 09/12/2007 at 10:21 AM #

    Given the comments yesterday about drunk State students’ behavior and a lot of less than desirable behavior in the stands and parking lots at State games, I have always hoped that there would be more interest in having Carter-Finley become much more like the environment at Nebraska. That kind of environment is much more supportive of athletic success and it is the right way to treat college football. We (including myself) complain about things we can’t do much about (like Jed) but here is something that SFN and other segments of the Wolfpack football family could do something about. Why don’t different groups within Wolfpack nation get together to try to improve the way we treat fans from other schools? You may say “when pigs fly…” to this, but I remember when a Washington Post sportswriter wrote that once too. Why not?

  13. wufpaxno1 09/12/2007 at 10:37 AM #

    ^^ PA, I second that motion! If we became the kind of school that visiting fans and teams feel good about coming to, and I mean based on the hospitality and enviornment not the results of the game, then we also become the school that recruits want to come to as well.

  14. BoKnowsNCS71 09/12/2007 at 10:41 AM #

    Every school’s fan base has its A-Holes. The misfortune comes when you have to sit near them.

    Sadly, our fan base can be just a profane, drunk, vulgar as the rest. And that is speaking from experience. In the area around my section (near the students and some alum) I don’t feel comfortable loaning my tickets out to friends due to som of the antics. I’ve seen a lot of parents with kids leave early (or chose not to take their kids anymore) due to the profanity.

    The game is a release of energy for some and unfortuntely negative energy for some. I see a lot of positive fan reactions but I think our memories linger and dwell on the couple of A-Holes we saw last versus the real fans.

  15. powersd 09/12/2007 at 11:52 AM #

    As for the Rutgers-Navy game, almost every player wearing the blue and gold that day will graduate from the United States Naval Academy. That means that, by roughly the age of 22, those young men willhave accomplished more in their lives than ANYBODY who ever attends or graduates from Rutgers will ever accomplish in theirs – no matter how successful they may become. I left N C State after two years to attend the U S Air Force Academy and I didn’t make it. I came back and finished my degree at State and have had a reasonably successful career by normal standards. I know what it takes to get through four years at a service academy, and I have always admired those who can do it. So for the rest of their lives those Navy men can look down their noses at the trash at Rutgers and know that they are far superior as human beings.

    On the BC game, I was there and it was only about 50% full at kickoff. I was a guest of some BC people and was generally treated well. A few guys made smart remarks about O’Brien, but taht was to be expected. A local sports columnist lamented the poor attednance and lack of fans there for teh whole game, basically saying that if they wanted to be a top 25 program, they had to start acting like a top 25 program.

  16. EverettBeez 09/12/2007 at 2:15 PM #

    ^ Wasn’t that TOB’s point, and one reason for leaving?

  17. noah 09/12/2007 at 2:32 PM #

    That columnist is walking against the tide on that one. It’s completely a cultural thing. No one gives a damn about college sports in Boston.

    It’s like trying to get Americans to like soccer. Sports don’t work that way.

    Sports are cultural treasures that get passed from one generation to the next. I like baseball because my father played catch with me and taught me how to keep score and told me stories about players from his youth. Those are fond memories and when I watch baseball today, I’m reminded of those happy moments.

    I’m sure that if you ask soccer fans in Argentina or Brazil or England or Germany why they like the sport, they’ll tell you similar tales.

    In Boston, fathers tell sons about Yaz and Teddy f-ing Ballgame and Larry Bird and whoever the hell plays for the Bruins…they don’t talk about Flutie.

  18. BoKnowsNCS71 09/12/2007 at 3:15 PM #

    that sums it up Noah.

    As an aside I was in San Diego two weeks ago and met up with a friend and his wife from High School days. He had gone to the Naval Academy then chased Russian boomers of Murmansk in the early 70’s. Talked about Rivers beign good and NC State. He mentioned one of his classmates was a red haired kid named Tom O’Brian. Small world.

  19. Dr. BadgerPack 09/12/2007 at 4:47 PM #

    I think the worst thing I have seen had to be Wisconsin (embarrassingly) when Michigan visited two years ago. Idiots threw cups of urine (NOT a typo) at the Michigan band. Not to mention the vulgar language… Absolutely horrendous, inexcusable behavior.

    My 4 years at NC State, I’m glad to say i never witnessed anything that even comes close to that kind of behavior. We did get on Chris Collins one year after a recruiter told me something about Collins, Dennis Rodman, and the back of a limo… but we were at least semi-tasteful about it.

    Note to idiots: I’m not setting the bar here, kids…

  20. packgrad2000 09/12/2007 at 6:10 PM #

    I remember thinking to myself a few years back when we played Navy when I believe we were favored by more than a TD, “I want us to win, but not blow them out.” If there’s ever an opponent you’ve got to have the utmost respect for, it’s any of the military academies.
    I know those students don’t represent the whole school, but I think I’d pull for UNC over Rutgers after reading that story.

  21. goalielax 09/13/2007 at 10:44 AM #

    I graduated from the Naval Academy. Honestly, I think too many people have their panties in a wad over this. Yes, it’s trashy, but that happens. It was a only a portion of these new-fan students of Rutgers that were doing the chanting. Does it piss me off? Sure. Do I think it’s unpatriotic? No. Hell No. It’s just drunk fans being retards about the whole thing. They obviously have been a doormat for a long time and now that they’re ranked, they get the same kind of subway fans that Notre Dame has. After the game ended there were plenty of Rutgers fans applauding Navy as they walked to the locker room.

    The biggest issue from the game as far as class was concerned was Schiano leaving his first team offense in to pad Rice’s stats at the end of the game. He even called a timeout with 2:17 left on a 4th and 1 to give Rice a shot at another TD instead of just kicking a FG to have a 20 point lead with just a couple of minutes left. I thought that was the most classless thing that happened that evening.

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