Time to Talk QBs

The N&O is running a nice profile on Pack QB Harrison Beck. Here’s an excerpt:

The Pack will hold its first preseason scrimmage today, and O’Brien said his three quarterbacks — Beck, Daniel Evans and Justin Burke — will get an equal amount of snaps. O’Brien would like to settle on a starter as quickly as possible but also said, “You want to make the right decision, not a fast decision.”

Evans is the returning starter and Burke, who starred at Lexington (Ky.) Catholic High, was recruited by O’Brien’s staff at BC. But it is Beck, who sat out last year as a transfer, who appears to intrigue so many Wolfpack fans.

The sophomore has the big arm. He was a big recruiting target in 2004 at Countryside High in Clearwater, Fla. — rated the No. 3 pro-style quarterback by one recruiting service — and made an early commitment to Nebraska, turning down offers from Florida, Michigan, NCSU and others.

“I can throw a football, obviously,” Beck said. “I can throw it all over the field.”

You’ve got to like that confidence. But Marcus Stone was a confident QB, too.

In a sense, Beck was the forgotten man last year, as fans debated the potential of the highly-touted true freshman Justin Burke and the level-headness and grit of the barely-recruited Daniel Evans. However, my gut tells me that Beck might be the best fit for our offense in 2007. My theory is simple (and by no means foolproof) – Beck’s big arm gives us the best chance to keep teams from stacking 8 or 9 in the box. Even the best backfield in college football (and the Brown/Baker combo has to be in that conversation) has trouble running against a 9-man front – especially behind a somewhat suspect OL. Trestman’s offense called for more short, precision passes (suited more for Evans’ arm) – but it’s an open question whether Evans can keep defenses honest in Bible’s system. However, as the N&O points out:

Beck, like Evans and Burke, is aware that O’Brien isn’t looking for the strongest arm. O’Brien wants his quarterback to make wise decisions, the right throws.

I think Coach O’Brien will wait and see how much Beck’s decision making progresses between now and September. He knows what he has in Daniel Evans. The job is not really Beck’s to lose, but it seems there for the taking. A 7-8 win season requires almost everything to fall the Pack’s way – and probably the “complete package” at QB.

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69 Responses to Time to Talk QBs

  1. noah 08/10/2007 at 9:09 AM #

    BTW, did anyone see the HBO training camp special, “Hard Knocks,” the other night?

    They are doing the KC Chiefs this year and they spent about 10 minutes on Tank Tyler.

    Good lord. That was embarrassing. I hope, for his sake, that was simply edited badly. He was overweight, he was overmatched, he was constantly getting chewed out by Tim Krumrie (whose voice actually sounded WORSE than Chuck Amato’s), he fell asleep during the team meetings, and generally looked and sounded like a complete idiot during the interviews.

  2. lush 08/10/2007 at 9:35 AM #

    “It’s one great team (USC), one good team (Cal) and a bunch of mediocre-to-bad teams”

    oregon has been in the top 25 for the majority of this decade and finished one season #2 in the country. that is a good team.

  3. BJD95 08/10/2007 at 9:48 AM #

    ^^ I will have to DVR the repeat. Hopefully they are setting Tank up as a “redemption” story later on in the series. However, there’s a reason character concerns caused him to slip to the 80-something pick.

  4. JimValvano 08/10/2007 at 9:58 AM #

    Just so everyone knows…the guy with the boobs worthy of beads at mardi gras…

    http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/45/454394.jpg

    that is Marvin Austin.

    lmao

  5. BJD95 08/10/2007 at 10:00 AM #

    Historcial YPA data and TD/INT ratios from 2004-06 – avert your eyes, these are some hideous numbers:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/teamstats?teamId=152&year=2007

    2006:

    Evans – 6.00 YPA (6 TD, 11 INT)
    Stone – 5.00 YPA (4 TD, 5 INT)

    2005:

    Davis – 7.04 YPA (6 TD, 8 INT)
    Stone – 6.59 YPA (8 TD, 6 INT)

    2004:

    Davis – 6.72 YPA (12 TD, 15 INT)
    Stone – 3.93 YPA (0 TD, 1 INT)

    Only Marcus Stone in 2005 had a TD/INT ratio of 1.0 or above (really, 1.5 is the minimally acceptable number, below 1.0 is just putrid). Only Jay Davis in 2005 – as a redshirt senior – hit the 7.0 YPA threshhold, and then just barely. This is even before you take account of the numerous “Pick Sixes” we threw (especially Davis, when the coaches stupidly kept calling that 2 yard, across the field out pattern that he just couldn’t make). Just horrible stuff.

  6. noah 08/10/2007 at 11:12 AM #

    “oregon has been in the top 25 for the majority of this decade and finished one season #2 in the country. that is a good team.”

    Other than the time they had Joey Harrington leading them, they’ve been a little better than .500, haven’t they?

  7. lush 08/10/2007 at 12:13 PM #

    ^since the year 2000 they are 56-27 in the regular season, averaging 8 wins per season with two 10 win seasons in 05 and 01(#2 in the country) and only one losing season (5-6) in 04.

    I would consider them a good program and i think we would all be happy if TOB has success like this(minus the losing season).

  8. choppack1 08/10/2007 at 10:14 PM #

    BJD – let’s be fair. We all thought that Stone had won the starting job after leading the team to victory at VaTech. Then vs. Wake he threw an INT for a TD. Davis came back in the game and led us to victory.

    The next year, the staff would lose my confidence. Stone threw another INT returned for a TD against the Deacs. But Davis was clearly struggling more – however, for whatever reason the staff came back w/ Davis. At that moment, I lost a lot of confidence in Amato, Inc. To their credit, we came back and won4 of our next 5…but that game showed me a lot about the staff’s ability to make solid decisions under fire.

  9. bTHEredterror 08/11/2007 at 12:05 AM #

    Noah, thanks for the correction. I forgot he coached there in the ’70’s, I was referring to his 17-17-1 record from ’92-’94. They are 52-72 the last ten years, and only Walsh and Willingham have winning records the last 30 years. They have had some good offensive teams, but rarely overcome their built-in recruiting challenges with the lofty qualifying standards and having a Christmas tree as a mascot (just kidding).

    My point was why would Stanford be given some consideration as a potential turnaround team under a new coach, and not State? We were in all but 2 of our losses last year, and have put a boatload of players in the NFL the last ten years, and several all-pros. Yet a 1-11 team (Stanford) and a UNC team, both routinely pounded, was picked to turn it around quicker than us?

  10. wolfonthehill 08/11/2007 at 11:02 AM #

    I’m honestly just happy that it sounds like a wide-open contest at this point. If we had already crowned Evans the starter, that would say nothing good about the guys behind him. He’s a known quantity, and quite honestly, that quantity isn’t enough to make this team truly dangerous.

  11. Primewolf 08/12/2007 at 6:32 PM #

    It looks like Evan’s will get the nod. The interesting question is will they develop a backup. I hated it when Trestman and others never got the backup in. There is just too much risk not to develop a backup as the season progresses.

  12. ncsu_kappa 08/13/2007 at 7:42 AM #

    N&O says Russell Wilson had the best practice yesterday and I think Burke wasn’t bad. Beck 4-14 100yds, 3 INT’s. TA type potential, can be really really good/bad.

    With that said, maybe our Defense is going to be a turnover monster this year?

  13. noah 08/13/2007 at 9:15 AM #

    Sounds to me like we’ve got a backup this year. Sounds like we’ve got four backups.

    What we don’t have is a starter.

  14. PamlicoPack 08/13/2007 at 9:28 AM #

    Yeah, just as we (I at least) was writing off Burke based on 1st scrimmage performance, he has the best performance in the 2nd scrimmage, although “best” is clearly relative. Beck may have played his way out of any shot at the starting position with the egg he layed. It is extremely frustrating to me that the guy with the brains and field vision has the least physical attributes (Evans), and the other two seem to have superior physical gifts but extremely poor game smarts and decisionmaking skills. Am I oversimplifying?

  15. BJD95 08/13/2007 at 11:01 AM #

    Dear God, I hope Glennon enrolls early.

  16. ncsu_kappa 08/13/2007 at 5:06 PM #

    BJD95 AMEN Brother!

  17. choppack1 08/13/2007 at 11:50 PM #

    Here are the #s to date – and some of my thoughts from my own blog on the QB situation….

    Evans 13-22 yards 127 yards (5.77 yards per pass) 1/1 INT
    Burke 12-24 92 yards (3.83 yards per pass) 0/2 INT
    Beck 7-20 154 yards (7.5 yards per pass) 1/3 INT
    Wilson 5-8 106 yards (13.25 yards per pass) 1/1 INT

    Now, I have no idea who Wilson was playing, whether he was just lucky or anything else about these scrimmages. Tom O’Brien and Dana Bible aren’t known for risk taking – they’re fairly conservative guys. It’s more likely that NC State will win the ACC than it is that Wilson will start the first couple of games. However, right now, he has the best completion % and the best yards per pass of the 4 QBs. I’m pretty sure this also gives him the highest QB rating of the four candidates.

    If nothing else, it looks like this QB search should include Wilson as a potential candidate.

  18. brown pelican 08/15/2007 at 9:26 AM #

    the yards per attempt arguement is a valid one—however—to develop good numbers here—the play calling must include enough vertical passing—early in the down and distance scenario—evans was effective here when offered the limited opportunity to do so—his high school numbers were close to 10.0—perhaps the coaching change will help here—go pack

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