OOC & Central Florida Preview (Updated 8/1)

Updated on August 1st
The N&O ran quick blog entry on the importance of the Wolfpack’s first game of the season with some focus on UCF Head Coach, George O’Leary. Link to comments.

O’Leary doesn’t have to embellish his resume when it comes to N.C. State. He went 6-1 against the Wolfpack as Georgia Tech’s head coach (1995-2001). The only loss came in 2000, to Philip Rivers, Koren Robinson and Levar Fisher.

UCF is not Georgia Tech but it won’t be a pushover on Sept. 1. The Knights went 4-8 in 2006 but have 17 starters returning, many of whom contributed to UCF’s 8-5 record in 2005.

July 8th Comments
Only EIGHT WEEKS before the 2007 football season kicks off for the Wolfpack who will take the field at Carter-Finley on September 1st at 6pm against George O’Leary’s University of Central Florida Golden Knights.

We’ve got a nice little entry on pre-season conversations about the 2007 football schedules of ACC teams that can be seen by clicking here.

This week, Andrew Jones of the Wilmington newspaper spent some time discussing NC State’s out of conference schedule. Jones projected that the Pack would go 3-1 against Central Florida, Wofford, Louisville and East Carolina. I’ll take that.

The Wolfpack has five games against teams that represent recent tremendous success or big-name programs with national championships in the past eight years. One of those contests is a trip to Boston College, where new N.C. State coach Tom O’Brien held the same post for the past decade.

With expected improved discipline that should reduce the silly mistakes that plagued this program the past few seasons, State should be in position to come out ahead of games it previously lost.

Since the Wolfpack opens with Central Florida – and Wofford doesn’t really count; and Louisville and East Carolina are later on the schedule – then why not spend a couple of minutes highlighting UCF?

Jones penned the following blurb:

Central Florida – Seventeen starters return to a team that went 4-8 a year ago, 3-5 in Conference USA. Senior quarterback Kyle Israel closed last season playing well, and coach George O’Leary expects him to pick up where he left off. Junior tailback Kevin Smith has run for more than 2,000 yards in his career. UCF gave up 40 or more points four times last season. State should win comfortably.

For a real in-depth preview on the Golden Knights you can click here to Fox Sports. The opening of the article reads as follows:

If you had UCF pegged the last three years, nice work, Nostradamus. Under George O’Leary, the Knights have been maddeningly unpredictable, going winless in 2004, recovering with eight wins and a school-first bowl game in 2005, and slumping to 4-8 last year as a preseason favorite to win Conference USA.

How the program responds to last season’s flop depends on the development of the heavy-legged defense, which ranked among the nation’s worst a year ago and might have been far worse had it not closed against four of the league’s most inept offenses in November. O’Leary believes he addressed the speed issue with February’s recruiting class, but most of those kids won’t begin contributing until 2008. That puts the pressure on a reshuffled coaching staff, namely new coordinator John Skladany, to turn dust into gold this fall.

The good news in Orlando is that 16 players who started last November’s finale will be back in 2007, although the pessimist will recall that about the same number returned to start last year’s disappointing season. The better news is the construction of Bright House Networks Stadium, a state-of-the-art, 45,000-seat facility that’ll replace the cavernous Citrus Bowl and be christened on national television when Texas visits Sept. 15. The on-campus stadium represents a great hook for future recruits and a far better college football feel for fans who used to travel downtown to see UCF games.

Recent history says it’s a waste of time trying to predict where the Knights will wind up this season, but what fun would that be? In a watered-down Eastern Division that houses just one above-average team, don’t be shocked if UCF defies the odds again and flirts with bowl eligibility. O’Leary is too good to let things slide for long.

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37 Responses to OOC & Central Florida Preview (Updated 8/1)

  1. RochesterRedWolf 08/01/2007 at 2:12 PM #

    Don’t know if you guys saw this but I saw where Dwight Jones (UNC’s 5 star WR) failed to qualify and will be Hargrave this year.

    Which brings up another point. By the time a guy gets to be a Junior, he pretty much knows or his coaches do, whether he’s gonna be D-IA material or not. Why don’t they get these guys some help? Domonique Ellis, Justin Whaley (Remember Sam Jones from last year, that beast from Fuquay). Or is it that these guys know that some way or another they are gonna go to a DivII school or some military academy prep school, no big deal, and they still have plenty of chances for the NFL or NBA?

  2. noah 08/01/2007 at 3:38 PM #

    I don’t know if I buy the premise that juniors know whether or not they will be D1 material. Especially in football. There are plenty of guys who never get noticed until they’re a senior in high school.

    Also, you and I probably knew for the vast majority of our childhood that we were going to be attending college one day. A lot of these guys are the first person in their family’s history to attend college.

    It’s just a different culture.

  3. gopack617 08/01/2007 at 3:38 PM #

    Some factsabout recent NC State football:

    The last time we beat a 1-A opponent by more then 3 touchdowns or more(21 pts +): 11/27/04 vs. ECU (25 games ago)

    Last time we scored 25 points or more on a 1-A team: 10/2/2004 vs Wake Forest (32 games ago)

    Last time we beat any 1-A opponent by 3 touchdowns or more: 12/22/03 vs Kansas (36 Games ago)

    In the regular season?: 10/24/02 vs Clemson (54 Games ago)

    Lets hope those all change very soon. the only one we never want to change:
    Last time shut out: 9/23/95 vs Baylor (142 Games ago)

  4. RochesterRedWolf 08/01/2007 at 5:56 PM #

    Noah ive followed recruiting a long time. It’s rare that a guy starts his senior season, no one has ever heard of him, and he gets a D1A scholarship. Instead of going to ECU (which honestly has an up and coming program) by the end of his senior season he might get a FLorida or Notre Dame offering, but its rare for a guy to come out of nowhere now, not with all the recruiting services and combines. Look at all the guys we talk about now. Look at Scout or Rivals, they’ve got guys ranked by the end of their junior year into their 5 star system. You’ve got “Junior Days” at most of the big time programs.

    However, take a guy who gives the verbal in June like Dwayne Maddox did, right now he knows he’s got about 11 months, and everyone else knows, to qualify to get into college.

    Well now i guess i see the issue. If you’ve been a poor student or just been brought up in a terrible situation all your life there’s very few folks that can turn that around in that amount of time. 1 year is not very long.

    But i understand the culture, i grew up in a really small town in NC and don’t live that far from an inner city ghetto now in Rochester, NY. It’s a different culture and mindset for sure.

  5. graywolf 08/01/2007 at 8:39 PM #

    This game is the most scary game we play all year because its David and Goliath all over again.

  6. BJD95 08/01/2007 at 9:37 PM #

    It’s no much that I expect the team to improve, as much as I expect the talent to be better utilized. As I’ve said to UNC friends and colleagues, State and UNC would be better off being coached by a signpost than by Amato and Bunting again.

    I’m certain that NC State has at least done better than the signpost.

  7. noah 08/02/2007 at 9:37 AM #

    “It’s rare that a guy starts his senior season, no one has ever heard of him, and he gets a D1A scholarship.”

    We have a commitment this year from a safety who fits that very description. He blew up at State’s camp and just came out of nowhere.

    Do you remember Dwayne Herndon? He was a basketball player and a wrestler for S. Nash until his senior year. His coach convinced him to try football and he did well enough that O’Cain gave him a scholarship. He fits into both categories…he never thought college was an option so he never took enough core classes to qualify. So he went to Prep school at Hargrave, got better academically and athletically and then came back to Raleigh and had a nice little career.

    Jamie Barnette was never a serious candidate for a scholarship until Roxboro put in a run-and-shoot offense. He put up obscene numbers and one of the State coaches wandered over and watched him. After we missed on a couple of other guys, the staff thought he was worth a scholarship offer as a safety. They never thought he could throw the ball, it was his stats that just drew their attention. He came to Raleigh and ran a 4.8 and O’Cain looked at his coaches and said, “I really hope he can play quarterback.”

    Remember Billy Ray Haynes? No one was recruiting him at any level, even after his senior year. He went to the Shrine Bowl and had a really good week. Sheridan’s staff took a chance on him because he was relentless and had a good work ethic. He did well on the scout team as a redshirt, did well on special teams as a redshirt freshman and started getting some playing time the next year.

    Those are just off the top of my head…

  8. Mike 08/02/2007 at 5:28 PM #

    Primacy, your list is 2 wins and 10 could lose. While we all hope for better than 2-10, one of the 2 is over UNX. Of all the games, I want to win that one more than the others, but how can you chalk that one up as a sure W?

    As much as I hate to say it, that one also has to be a “could”. And Wolf showing all the close games, yes we were close. Amato repeated that game after game, but we continued to lose close. What that tells me though is we have a chance to win every game too. I dont see a team on the schedule that is a guaranteed L. We could go 2-10. We could go 10-2 (not likely, but COULD).

  9. RochesterRedWolf 08/03/2007 at 12:56 AM #

    Mike, that’s what I’m saying…look at those close games, read the interviews with Darrell Blackman about what happened last year, and you realize those guys just went thru the motions at practice, and came out saturday with some semblance about what to do. Hence, 10 penalties a game, turnovers, bone-headed stuff, all of that comes on Amato.

    If you also read those interviews by either Blackman or Pressley you’ll see that Amato was a lot closer to the players. This is classic Assistant coach mentality and behavior and in tough times he can’t be a hardass on them, they aren’t going to respect him like they would someone more distant like O’Brien or Sheridan. All of that translates into healthy fear. Every play in the back of their minds they know they’ll have TOB to deal with on Monday. It helps focus all of that. When the coach is like one of the guys who do you answer to.

    These are the intangibles i guess that everyone talks about.

    I really wish Amato would have succeeded, he’s part of the family. He bleeds Red, I am sure he hated Carolina too more than us. But you can tell that anyone even from South Carolina could have coached NC State for four years and had the same record as Amato during Philip Rivers Reign of Domination. I forgot who said it but one of the players said that PR knew the playbook better than any of the coaches.

  10. RochesterRedWolf 08/03/2007 at 1:04 AM #

    Noah, not trying to be a punk, I agree with you. I didn’t say it NEVER happened, just that it was rare. And nowadays its even rarer with all these services. The guy who got an offer from camp, do you mean Wolfe? But think about 85 guys on scholarship a year, and how many of them didn’t know they were D1 bound by the beginning of their senior year? I think 10% of those (8-9 guys) would be about right.

    Mike, i forgot to mention that yeah, i really think NC State could pull some of these games out this year, i really believe it. I think the big test will be BC. BC is a good team, won 8 games last year, but we still beat their asses. If we can go up there and win, i think that will give the players the needed confidence.

    And what I am really expecting, is for us to start beating the sucky teams like red-headed step children (no offense to red-heads or step children). Why can’t we beat anyone 40-7 anymore??

  11. primacyone 08/03/2007 at 9:48 AM #

    ^^”Primacy, your list is 2 wins and 10 could lose. While we all hope for better than 2-10, one of the 2 is over UNX. Of all the games, I want to win that one more than the others, but how can you chalk that one up as a sure W?”

    Mike,

    I just couldn’t bring myself to put anything else there.

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