Future NC State OOC FBall Schedule – ECU added in 2008?

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July 20, 2007
Trout has chimed into the comments section of this entry with an update that – according to some close to the East Carolina football program – NC State has added a match-up with the Pirates to the 2008 schedule.

If this is true, then all I have to say is – Dammit, Lee Fowler!! For which school are you the f’ing Athletics Director? Why don’t you just bend over and let Terry Holland sodomize you for the whole world to see. This means that NC State will waste a f’ing football game helping build the program of a local competitor who consistently collectively spits in all of our faces for FIVE CONSECUTIVE SEASONS (2006-2010).

Breathe.

Now that is out of the way…Trout also proceeds to hypothesizes the following:

If true, one of these 3 things is happening:

(1) They have added 1 game to the original 6 game agreement and NC State won’t have a return game
(2)NC State will have a return game in the future, making a 6 game agreement now an 8 game agreement
(3)A future game scheduled to be played in Raleigh (2009 or 2013) is being moved to 2008.

I really think a future game in this series, scheduled to be played in Raleigh (2009 most likely), is being moved to 2008.

Why?

(1) I don’t think LF would add the 2008 game and then a return game. He likes to schedule ECU, but if you are doing home/homes, the 6 games we have is enough (plus, he heard it from fans when the 6 games was orginally announced) – he wouldn’t add two more games in the same original timeframe.

(2) I don’t think Terry Holland would agree to a uneven series, which if this game in 2008 is added and another game not moved, it would mean a 4-3 series.

My guess is that they are adding the 2008 game and moving the 2009 game to ECU from Raleigh. If true, it means NC State plays in Greenville 2 years in a row, 2009 and 2010, then plays in Raleigh in 2013 and in Greenville in 2016.

A pretty accurate composition of NC State’s future football schedules can be found by clicking here. NC State’s entire future OOC football schedule is included below:

NC State’s current Non-Conference Football Opponents:

2008: @ South Carolina (Thu/Aug 28/ESPN), William & Mary, South Florida (Sep 27), ECU?

2009: South Carolina (Thu/Sep 3/ESPN), Pittsburgh, ECU, Gardner-Webb (Sep 19)

2010: Cincinnati, @ ECU, Western Carolina

2011: @ Cincinnati

2012: Tennessee, UConn (home or away?)

2013: @ Pittsburgh, @Tennessee, ECU

2014: vs Oklahoma State, @ South Florida (Sep 13)

2015: @ Oklahoma State

2016: @ ECU

2017: LSU

2020: LSU

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34 Responses to Future NC State OOC FBall Schedule – ECU added in 2008?

  1. packpigskinfan23 07/21/2007 at 12:12 PM #

    StateFans is VERY passionate about this particular topic… thats why I try to avoid it here. Nothing worse then having the moderater basically tell you your an idiot for your opinion. But I agree with SFN that there is no reason that we should be playing ecu THIS much. Thats just stupid. That does nothing for recruiting… that does nothing for just getting our colors seen somewhere else other then the state of NC. I dont mind playing ECU 5 times is 12 years. no biggie. but 6 years in a row?!?! come on!

  2. StateFans 07/21/2007 at 12:49 PM #

    Fair points about our extreme criticism of others on this topic. We will work hard to do better. Sincerely. Thank you.

    To be a little more specific — it is not as much the ‘disagreement’ of others that brings out our worst. It is the lack of understanding of all of the nuances around the topic that brings out our worst.

    I would rather someone simply say – ‘I understand all of the negatives related to playing ECU. Regardless, it is my personal preference to play them (insert personal reason here) despite the negative impact to our program and the positive impact to the Pirates.’

    We couldn’t argue with that^. But, nobody ever just says that. They always have to come up with reasons/thoughts/conclusions that aren’t based in reality or indicate a gross misunderstanding of the issue. (..and, usually, indicate that they are below the age of 30 and don’t understand the history of the series).

  3. kool k 07/21/2007 at 12:54 PM #

    College football is a very reigonalized sport. It is based on tradition. It is fueled by rivalries. NCSU/ECU equates to all 3 of those.
    NC State going to Greenville to play a basketball is as dumb as it gets. There is nothng to gain there.
    Football is different. The program at ECU is legit. It is a destination that fans from both schools can reach without using vacation time. There is a buzz and, cue the Christopher Walken, a fever surrounding the game. ECU fans are passionate about football. NC State fans are passionate about football. Both Carter-Finley and Dowdey-Ficklen are great atmospheres on Saturday afternoons. At the end of the day, that is what it all boils down to.
    I respect everyones opinion on this board. I hear all the points being made. I agree that playing the UCLA’s, Texas A&M’s, Oklahoma St’s or Minnesota’s would raise the program’s national program. I am not against any of this.
    But I also believe you have to win the battle in your backyard first. Look at what O’Brien is doing with recruiting. He is attacking the best players in the state with the utmost in priority. That’s what you have to do. Heck, that’s what Pete Carrol has done. He made USC what it is by getting the best local prospects out in California.
    Get the best recruits in the state. Dominate the other programs in the state and region. Win the conference. Become a nationally recognized program. That is a blueprint for success in my honest opinion.
    I was 13 when Jeff Blake and Luke Fisher tore my heart and soul to shreds worse than any scene from any Martin Scorsese film.
    I don’t shine shoes anymore.

  4. StateFans 07/21/2007 at 1:46 PM #

    By the very nature of the fact that your big ECU memory is based simply on a crushing loss in Atlanta as opposed to any of the events of the 1980s, then you completely underscore our previous point about the age issue and failure to have a broader, more complete personal experience upon which to draw conclusions.

    Jim Valvano swore that NC State would never play ECU again…period. Lee Fowler has chosen to against Jimmy V and go otherwise.

    Sorry…but I think 99% of Wolfpackers would choose ANYTHING that Jimmy V wanted over that of Lee Fowler.

  5. gopack968 07/21/2007 at 3:06 PM #

    Scheduling that many games against an in-state team from a non-BCS conference just smacks of laziness and/or a lack of imagination. There are far too many other teams outside of our recruiting power-zone (now that we have TOB!) that we could schedule in those slots. More trips to the northeast and midwest are the most logical. Maybe these teams would also be from CUSA as well. It really does not matter that much OOC. But to play that many games – each of which is virtually guaranteed to not even be on regional broadcast or mainstream cable – is dumb.

    And when you add this to the Garder Webb game one really has to wonder what the logic of this is…

    The one thought that might mitigate against all of this ranting is how teams are responding to scheduling offers from LF. NC State is a program with a lot of strengths that, judging by national press, is only going to get stronger in the next few years. Jed may be finding that not many programs want to play us two years form now.

  6. kool k 07/21/2007 at 3:12 PM #

    Jim Valvano was a great man. I proudly display the photo of he and I from his basketball camp in 1989 on my desk at work.
    My mother still brings up that God awful female dog sitting behind her and my father on the grass between AE and the East side of the stadium in ’87. The ignorance of those mouth breathing neanderthals is all the reason to pound them into submission every year before an overflow crowd.
    We obviously disagree on this subject, but again, I respect your opinion along with everyone else on here.
    I would love to discuss this matter with you or anyone over a few cold beers and some good bbq at Carter-Finley, Dowdey-Ficklen, Doak Campbell or wherever on a lovely Autumn Saturday afternoon.
    After all……..
    IT’S DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL!!!

  7. packpower 07/21/2007 at 4:33 PM #

    If my memory is correct, the series was cancelled by Jim Valvano because a security guard was seriously injured after the game. If there’s a tape of Valvano’s radio show the week after the game, it should be required listening for all Pack fans. He spoke very passionately about the security guard who was seriously injured and the impact it had on the guard’s family. It’s been 20 years, but does anyone know what happened to the Security Guard?

  8. Primewolf 07/22/2007 at 10:42 PM #

    I think I will take my boat to the tennessee game. Now how to get from Morehead to the Tennessee River (guessing on river).

    That will be the biggest away game since OSU in 2003?

    Let’s face it, NCSU schedelers don’t give us much to shout about very often when it comes to scheduling big time opponents.

  9. PamlicoPack 07/23/2007 at 3:36 PM #

    is it possible that the game was moved to 2008 to accomodate some bigger name that has come available at the last moment for 2009? Any rumours along that line?

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