Tailgating Talk: Another Hour

Last year NC State institued a poorly crafted “tailgating policy” that we described as “the worst kind of administrative nonsense – a solution in search of a problem.” We discussed it in this entry that definitely deserves your time.

Later in the year, this (really good) entry discussed the topic framed against a very approprite backdrop of – how do so many other institutions master this difficult subject of social interaction!

Now, NC State’s Technician is writing about their experience out there in the real world in Death Valley. This fantastic piece titled “Clemson has it right” focuses on the family atmosphere and environment fostered by Clemson’s administration. If only Clemson could have Jim Oblinger and Tom Stafford show them the way to proper risk management!!

You see, at NC State risk management = risk avoidance.

It is the ONLY way to insure that the University becomes a commuter school with no Wolfstocks, no lawn parties, no band parties, no post-big-win-celebrations, limited tailgating, no greek system of which to speak, no Hillsborough Street to enjoy and absolutely no social fabric to connect current students or to bridge the current student body to the alums of old. The University has done a fantabulous job of achieving these risk-free goals!! Bravo, Mr. Stafford!!

Today, we turn your attention to the only place you need to go to read a good perspective on the topic – Red & White From State. In this entry.

Unlike most ridiculous blather on the internet, RAWFS takes the time to not only highlight relevant issues on the topic. RAWFS also proposes a PLAN with real-life solutions and suggestions on how to execute the plan. Additionally, they highlight another example of an institution who has found a way to masterfully navigate this oh-so-tricky world of fellowship prior to an athletics event.

One only has to look at the University of Alabama with its twelve national championships in college football and its horde of fans, and the traditions that they have to see the difference: people there often start tailgaiting days in advance, and somehow the Crimson Tide manages to avoid many of the problems that seem to plague NC State’s administrators. Perhaps it is because at Alabama games a properly sized police presence is out in force and scofflaws are dealt with before they can get out of control. In short, in Tuscaloosa, if you get out of line, you’ll probably be needing someone to get you out of jail.

Take a look at a short excerpt from the fine book RammerJammerYellowHammer by Warren St. John:

“In the South, the Midwest, and other pockets of fan mania throughout America, it’s not unheard of these days for fans to arrive in their motor homes a full week before kickoff—to drive directly from one game to the next.”

What a big difference, both in the programs and in the way the respective universities treat their fans.

If our esteemed leaders with their Raleigh-centric, limited perspective ever decide to take a fact finding mission to Tuscaloosa…may we suggest that they swing by Baton Rouge while they are on the gulf coast.

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71 Responses to Tailgating Talk: Another Hour

  1. joe 05/11/2007 at 12:15 PM #

    If you want to be like SEC FB teams then prepare to go on probation on a regular basis.

  2. lush 05/11/2007 at 12:28 PM #

    hey im with you, bring in bevo jr. with a bright red blazer. that would be awesome.

    im all for embracing heritage, and we have nothing to be ashamed of.

    but lets keep mr. and mrs. wuf too, arent they are only national champions since 1983?

  3. lush 05/11/2007 at 12:28 PM #

    ^are = our

  4. packbackr04 05/11/2007 at 2:26 PM #

    weve got the national champ bass fishing team, but everybody calm down. take a deep breath…..yall need to remember we shouldnt expect to compete with Dook and UNX. thats what our feerless leader Jed Clampett told us right?

  5. redfred2 05/11/2007 at 4:17 PM #

    The unc bass fishing team is pretty good, but they’re handicapped. They have to order latte, warm croissants, and then call their mommies to let them how long they’ll be out, before getting out on the water every morning. Plus they have to run in, get someone to take the fish off the hook for them, and then change into a cleanly pressed powder blue jumpsuit everytime they catch one. Big disadvantage there, but they aren’t about to touch those yucky things. Duke’s bass fishing program never really got off the ground, so to speak. They abandoned the whole program altogether. Just more overreaction and worry about the already close ties between fishermen and *hookers*, I guess.

  6. redfred2 05/11/2007 at 5:43 PM #

    As far the ACC, and the stuff on bass fishing competition goes, I’d really like to see unc get they’re act together and be competitive nationally. But they have some fundamental problems over there and I don’t know if it’s coaching or just just dissention among the different *members* of the team. They don’t seem to be too worried about where the best holes are, and they always are overly concerned with each other’s equipment. Just *petty* stuff that any new program would probably go through in a feeling out period. They even argue over positioning in the boat, who’s in front, and whose behind.

  7. redfred2 05/11/2007 at 9:28 PM #

    ^Somebody please read that last fishing post again, slowly, that’s funny stuff.

  8. packwolf90 05/12/2007 at 11:23 AM #

    “They don’t seem to be too worried about where the best holes are, and they always are overly concerned with each other’s equipment.”

    I died laughin when i read this.

  9. redfred2 05/12/2007 at 1:47 PM #

    Thanks packwolf90.

    In that last sentence I meant to say … *who’s* in the bow, or *whose* behind.

  10. mafpack 05/13/2007 at 10:13 AM #

    LoL redfred – I laughed the whole way through both posts 🙂

  11. BoKnowsNCS71 05/13/2007 at 2:37 PM #

    I heard the Dook fishing team had some Stripers at a party so the adminstration decided to axe them also.

    Great stuff on the Heels there Fred.

  12. WolfPup35 05/13/2007 at 10:03 PM #

    “If you want to be like SEC FB teams then prepare to go on probation on a regular basis.”

    Good point, Joe…….whenever you hear about an SEC team, it’s usually preceded be “The NCAA is investigating”.

  13. WolfPup35 05/13/2007 at 10:09 PM #

    “They don’t seem to be too worried about where the best holes are, and they always are overly concerned with each other’s equipment.”

    ………..LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!…………….

  14. redfred2 05/14/2007 at 8:19 AM #

    Thanks guys. Back in the good old days we silenced many an uncalled for MOO with that kind of stuff. It’s really too easy and the unc’ers have nothing at all to come back with. I mean, which would you rather be called, a farmer or a …? I know I for one, don’t have a problem picturing myself bouncing up and down on a tractor, versus say, bouncing up and down on a …

    I don’t know when being called a farm boy became the worst of those two jabs, but that good ol’ political correctness, you gotta love it.

  15. packbackr04 05/14/2007 at 10:34 AM #

    good stuff red. i bet you did well in creative writing courses

  16. redfred2 05/14/2007 at 10:42 AM #

    ^Ummm, not really.

  17. redfred2 05/14/2007 at 11:37 AM #

    Bo, of course you know the the minimum on “stripers” is 18 inshore, it’s kinda coincidental but that’s in inches, not years, and only two per day. I guess if those limits aren’t enough for anyone and they push it beyond that, then they’re only asking for trouble.

    Youth, it’s a dangerous thing.

  18. redfred2 05/14/2007 at 12:01 PM #

    Please don’t take that wrong, it’s a joke, I have three young daughters myself. When I jokingly said “Youth, it’s a dangerous thing.”, I meant how could any man not be happy with a two “striper” per day limit. I wouldn’t joke about and wasn’t refering to the age of the “catch” there. That would NOT be funny, and it is not anything to joke about AT ALL.

  19. stategrad82 05/14/2007 at 4:34 PM #

    I am a state grad, but my father played football for Alabama. The atmosphere there is night and day compared to Raleigh. Motor homes are there days in advance. My sister lives in Charlottesville, when Auburn was on the UVA schedule and motor homes started showing up on Wednesday, UVA didn’t know what to do. N.C. State admin needs to quit talking about becoming a first class football program. They do not have a clue what it is about. Tailgating is about sharing your pride and your passion for your team with old friends, why would you want to limit that?

  20. LRM 05/14/2007 at 10:38 PM #

    How is it that 100,000 Nascar fans can tailgate for two straight weeks in Charlotte for the Winston and 600 (yes I know it’s not the Winston anymore), beer flowing plentiful, and yet it never seems to be an issue? Does State’s admin have that answer? Maybe they should come hang out with us out there this weekend and take notes.

  21. TNCSU 05/15/2007 at 11:37 AM #

    To heck with State’s Admin, can I come hang with you guys this weekend? 🙂

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