2007 Basketball Recruiting Rankings & Review

Basketball recruiting for this year’s class is complete and first year Head Coach, Sidney Lowe has an awful lot of which to be proud!! Coach Lowe made the best of his opportunity to make a big impact as early as he could last summer.

After inheriting a program that was in such disarray that Lee Fowler found it necessary to sign the new coach to an (uncustomary) SIX YEAR deal last year, Sidney bested expectations on the court during his first season and has continued his momentum off the court in recruiting.

(Sidebar: After six years of listening to “Coach” Fowler extol the strength of NC State’s program under Herb Sendek, I never understood the ‘logic’ and lack of consistency that the program was in such bad shape that Fowler needed to go outside of his box and give Lowe an extra year on his first contract. Don’t get me wrong, I am not complaining about the maneuver as it relates to Sidney – just flabbergasted at the hypocrisy of Fowler’s actions when measured against his words).

This year’s recruiting class started coming together when Johnny Thomas committed to the Wolfpack in early June of last year. The class kept picking up steam and then picked up momentum from there.

If you do not include point guard Farnold Degand or combo guard Marques Johnson who is transferring from Tennessee, the Wolfpack signed four players in this year’s class.

* JJ Hickson, C/PF, Scout – 5-star, #13 rank; Rivals – 5-star, #10 rank
* Tracy Smith, F, Scout – 4-star, #70 rank; Rivals – 4-star, #46 rank
* Javi Gonzalez, PG, Scout – 3-star, Top 150 rank; Rivals – 3-star, Top 150 rank
* Johnny Thomas, SF, Scout – 3-star, Top 150 rank; Rivals – 3-star, Top 150 rank

Not including the transfers, Coach Lowe’s first recruiting haul was ranked:

* 16th in the country CollegeHoopsUpdate.com. (Link to rankings)
* 16th by Scout.com (Link to rankings )
* 18th by Rivals.com (Link to rankings) (We particularly liked the Rivals article because of its format and easy access to past recruiting rankings.

The ACC Perspective
As always, the first place to turn for broad and deep analysis of the conference is Dave Glenn.

Glenn’s ACCSports.com has a detailed breakdown of both 2007 signees and a look ahead to 2008 recruits at this link.

The Fayetteville Observer highlighted the recruiting classes of the entire conference in this article that uses the Prepstars recruiting service for its basis.

Duke signed three of the top 20 basketball prospects in the Class of 2007, getting signatures from Kyle Singler, Taylor King and Nolan Smith in the fall. The only other top-20 player headed to the ACC is J.J. Hickson, who signed with N.C. State.

ACC schools are bringing in eight of the top 50 high school hoops players in the nation as ranked by prepstars.com. In addition to the three future Blue Devils, N.C. State and Florida State signed two apiece, while Georgia Tech got one.

Of the 43 high school players who signed with ACC schools, 20 are ranked in the top 100. One of those, however, Augustus Gilchrist, has said he will not attend Virginia Tech because of last month’s campus shootings.

None of Clemson’s three signees is rated in the top 100. All of the other ACC schools, with the exception of North Carolina, added at least one top-100 prospect.

Carolina did not sign anybody. In fact, the Tar Heels did not recruit anyone in the 2007 class after making the nation’s No. 1 haul last year. UNC’s 2006 group included six of the top 100 high school players.

Virginia Tech has the largest 2007 ACC class with six signees. Maryland has five.

The rankings are summarized below:

(1) Duke
(2) Georgia Tech
(3) N.C. State
(4) Florida State
(5) Virginia Tech
(6) Wake Forest
(7) Maryland
(8) Virginia
(9) Boston College
(10) Miami
(11) Clemson
(12) North Carolina

Related, Dave Sez has done a nice analysis on the talent entering the ACC this year.

NC State’s Future
We’ve been keeping a running list of the Wolfpack’s projected roster for the past year as we have been following recruiting. With the news that Tracy Smith has not only signed but is projected to academically qualify to play next season (and should be enrolling at State this summer), then it becomes more clear that someone on NC State’s current roster will not be returning to the program next season.

Early rumblings from Raleigh seem to indicate that Bartosz Lewandowski may be having some health issues that will preclude him from participating in college athletics in the future. We do not know who true this is and will be looking into it further; we will exclude Lewandowski for the purposes of the following projections. Also unknown for the purposes of the following projections is the classification of Marques Johnson next year. Will he be a freshman or a sophomore?

Senior Class
(1) Gavin Grant (2G/3F)

Junior Class
(2) Courtney Fells (2G)
(3) Ben McCauley (4F/5C)

Sophomore Class
(4) Brandon Costner (3F/4F)
(5) Trevor Ferguson (2G/PG)
(6) Dennis Horner (3F)
(7) Farnold Degand (1PG)

Freshman Class
(8) Johnny Thomas (3F)
(9) JJ Hickson (5C/4F)
(10) Tracy Smith (4F/3F)
(11) Marques Johnson (2G) (eligible after first semester)
(12) Javi Gonzalez (1PG)

HS Senior Commits
(13) Julius Mays (PG)
(1) CJ Williams (3F/2G) [Gavin Grant’s old scholarship]

More from Dave Glenn:

N.C. State is in the unusual position, even at this early stage, of having filled all of its open roster spots with commitments from members of the Class of 2008. These high school juniors won’t be in college until the 2008-09 season, remember, but Lowe already has secured pledges from Indiana guard Julius Mays and in-state (Fayetteville Jack Britt) swingman C.J. Williams. Unless a current team member leaves the program prematurely, the Wolfpack has no more available scholarships for high school juniors.

Given the nature (transfers, early NBA entries, etc.) of modern college basketball, of course, the Wolfpack is continuing to stay in contact with a variety of 2008 prospects, even without an open scholarship.

Updated – July 30, 2007
Link to WS Journal

There are four incoming freshmen to go with two players who transferred in last year and will be eligible in the coming season. The four freshmen alone – center J.J. Hickson, forwards Tracy Smith and Johnny Thomas, and guard Javier Gonzalez – gave State the No. 14 class in the nation, according to PrepStars, and the No. 2 class in the ACC behind Duke. Scout.com rated the class No. 17 in the nation and No. 2 in the ACC.

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263 Responses to 2007 Basketball Recruiting Rankings & Review

  1. Rick 06/01/2007 at 11:34 AM #

    “Grant, I’m criticizing his game, which is what a fan is supposed to do, not just be blindly defensive.”

    And all this time I thought a fan was supposed to cheer his team.

    What was I thinnking?

  2. Luke12321 06/01/2007 at 11:39 AM #

    Everyone realizes he made dumb decisions…lots of turnovers last year. The excuse that I will give him though is that he was playing a TON of minutes. When you are tired and on a team that lacks someone who can create on the outside (Early on, Fells was afraid to drive and Atsur was hurt)….turnovers are going to happen. The main thing is this….By next year he will trust Fells, Costner, JJ, Ben, and others. If you don’t trust your teammates, you are going to force it. Anyone who has played basketball will tell you that. He probably thought last year that he should be the guy to create and lead. This year, with more support and a more experienced college coach, GG will be better!

  3. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 11:48 AM #

    Say the guys who found it ok to relentlessly criticize our former coach.

    “Pot, this is Mr. Kettle”

    Fans critique and criticize, it’s what we do. I’m going to be in the stands cheering when Gavin makes a good play along with everyone else, but in the meantime I’m going to analyze what I think our best lineups will be next year, if for nothing else than my own entertainment. I stated that I think Gavin would be best coming off the bench next year, and I haven’t seen anybody give me a good rebuttal to that so I’ll keep defending it (because I do love a good debate).

  4. VaWolf82 06/01/2007 at 12:02 PM #

    where did that BOLD come from?????????

    Be careful what you start lines or paragraphs with. The software interprets some characters far differently than you would ever imagine.

  5. CedarGroveWolf 06/01/2007 at 12:28 PM #

    “Say the guys who found it ok to relentlessly criticize our former coach.”

    LMAO

  6. PapaJohn 06/01/2007 at 12:51 PM #

    vawolf82 – thanks for the tip

  7. lush 06/01/2007 at 1:10 PM #

    “Say the guys who found it ok to relentlessly criticize our former coach. “:

    umm grant hasnt been here for a decade, three years by my count. no one had the foresight to know that herb would never amount to anything after his first 3 years

    dance monkey dance

  8. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 1:14 PM #

    he said he thought a fan was supposed to cheer on the team and implied that I was wrong by saying it is the part of the fan to criticize. I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of this statement. In fact, if you would be so kind as to read my writing in its entirety, you would realize that I am all for criticism and am saying that it was your right as a fan to criticize Herb.

    dance yourself.

  9. Todd 06/01/2007 at 2:22 PM #

    Okay, so what about future recruits? If we have a few leave next year, who are/should we be keeping in contact with for the next few classes? What needs should we try to fill? That could depend on who leaves. Who is most likely to go early and/or trans.

  10. Rick 06/01/2007 at 2:26 PM #

    A coach is fair game. He is paid alot of money.

    I thought we needed a change at the coaching position and since our AD decided to ignore evryone but the ones lining his pocket the only outlet I had was to criticize him in the most public manner I had in order to try to bring about the change I wanted.
    How is that in any way related to you running down Grant? Do you think he will have some epihpany and change his game because you thought he sucked?
    Players are not paid so IMO whould be treaded on more lightly.

  11. Todd 06/01/2007 at 2:43 PM #

    ^^future recruits … go back to main page and read “CJ and beyond”

  12. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 3:13 PM #

    I’m saying this is an internet message board, and your venting your frustrations about Herb was no more likely to get Fowler to fire him than my venting about Gavin is likely to get Sid to bench him. We don’t have the influence or decision-making power to make our opinions matter, so we go out on the internet and write down our thoughts hoping that others will agree with us. Don’t pretend like your criticism is in some way better than mine. The only reason you think that what I’m saying is worse is because you think that your criticism was true and mine is not.

    Players get full-ride scholarships for an education worth tens of thousands of dollars. They get access to state-of-the-art training/weight lifting equipment and athletic gear. They also do get payed a small amount to make up for the fact that they’re too busy to work. Not only that, but they are also attempting to build themselves up to NBA scouts so that they can make millions down the road. They know going in that they will be subject to critiquing and criticism from fans and the media, it comes with the territory. Please, these guys are just as open to criticism as the coaching staff is.

    Stop treating this like I’m making a personal attack on Gavin Grant. I’m analyzing his basketball skills, nothing more, nothing less. I’m critical of him because he has, without a doubt, the most untapped potential of anyone on the team, and yet he has wasted much of his college career making the kind of mental mistakes that you would expect from a high school JV player. I offered completely valid criticisms of Grant’s game and showed why I thought he would be better coming off the bench. If you want to argue, give me a convincing reason why that isn’t the case, something that doesn’t involve a list of excuses as long as your arm.

  13. Rick 06/01/2007 at 3:17 PM #

    “I’m saying this is an internet message board, and your venting your frustrations about Herb was no more likely to get Fowler to fire him than my venting about Gavin is likely to get Sid to bench him.”

    You are both right and wrong.
    It would never have any affect on LF but it did have a direct affect on getting rid of Herb.

  14. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 3:28 PM #

    you’re right, I bet Herb logged on here every night and cried as he read your comments, thinking “I’ve got to get out of here!” Funny to picture, but not exactly plausible.

  15. Rick 06/01/2007 at 3:48 PM #

    You really are an obstinate little fella.

    Herb left because he knew people were not happy with him.
    If I had even a little part to play in that I will happily take credit for it.

  16. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 4:00 PM #

    What can I say, I like to win.

    If you really want to say that you helped to oust Herb then you could say that you joined the throngs of others who complained on internet blogs and message boards until the media picked it up and let it be known that State fans were unhappy with Herb and were saying so in increasing numbers. Even so, that’s hardly a “direct affect” (semantics, I know, but again, I like to win :P) and I’m pretty sure that large sum of money that ASU threw his way at a lot more to do with Herb leaving than your whining on a blog did.

    At any rate, you’ve succeeded in diverting the conversation away from the original point and into quibbling over minute nuances, so points to you. After all, if you can’t beat the enemy’s argument, you simply must distract everyone until they forget what the argument was in the first place ;).

  17. Rick 06/01/2007 at 4:08 PM #

    Actually you started the “it is the fans right to criticize”.

    I was the one that looked up actual stats to back up my agument. As opposed to “Gavin sucks and turns the ball over all the time”.

  18. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 4:28 PM #

    Yes, I did mention that, imo, one of the jobs of a fan is to criticize. You, however, did ignore the rest of that post to simply address that one line. By thus ignoring my post, you didn’t have to deal with the fact that

    A) None of the stats you pulled up disagree with my assertion that Gavin is a turnover machine who really only brings slashing and rebounding to the table.

    B) The statistics I gave seem to prove my point that Gavin is not a good perimeter shooter and that his turnover problems were not due to him playing out of position.

    C) The Princeton Offense should have taught Gavin more about ball movement and spacing, not inhibited his development in those areas.

    Just to clarify, I never said that Gavin sucks as a player. What I have said is that he has a lot of glaring holes in his game, he should be better for a player of his talent level, and he would be better suited to coming off the bench.

  19. Rick 06/01/2007 at 4:32 PM #

    “A) None of the stats you pulled up disagree with my assertion that Gavin is a turnover machine who really only brings slashing and rebounding to the table.

    B) The statistics I gave seem to prove my point that Gavin is not a good perimeter shooter and that his turnover problems were not due to him playing out of position.”

    Yes they did.
    How can the third leading fg shooter on a team be a bad shooter? He was not shooting only layups.

  20. lush 06/01/2007 at 4:41 PM #

    xphnx87, jeez a little touchy huh?

    you are not the monkey i was referring to, nor was your post, but now that i know you are so sensitve about what you write we can be sure and debate later. for now its happy hour

  21. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 4:49 PM #

    Gavin shot more short jumpers and layups than anybody, with the possible exception of McCauley (I would have to see a shot chart to be sure between those two). The fact that his 3-point percentage is so low and his effective FG% is so low indicate that he isn’t a good perimeter shooter. Even guards can post great FG% numbers and be poor perimeter shooters (for example, Tony Parker has been among the NBA league leaders in FG% for years, and only recently has his jumpshot become anything approaching serviceable). He also has a high rate of FTs attempted per FGs attempted, which is a good indicator of if a player is taking a lot of shots around the rim. Now, these are only statistics, and you can debate all you want over their value. However, I think it’s hard to argue that him being 3rd in FG% somehow means he’s a good shooter.

  22. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 4:51 PM #

    I’m not particularly sensitive, I just enjoy a good debate. I’m bored and looking for entertainment, so sue me. 🙂

  23. redfred2 06/01/2007 at 5:26 PM #

    I read for a while then saw this:

    “The Princeton Offense should have taught Gavin more about ball movement and spacing, not inhibited his development in those areas.”

    Huh?

    The Princeton offense alone, can’t teach a kid a damn thing. Apparently it’s no more effective at developing lacking skills such as decision making, defensive posture and positioning, then the system Grant’s coach ran in high school. It takes a COACH and a teacher even at this level. Theories don’t really shore up a player’s weak spots, build confidence, or bring out player’s hidden potentials.

  24. redfred2 06/01/2007 at 5:35 PM #

    xphoenix87,

    The reason I jumped was that none of the going ons involving the program have been fair to the players, especially Grant. I agree with your earlier statement about it being hard to watch someone with such potential kinda slipping through the cracks. I don’t want to start an argument, but damn, have you not been watching the past five years. Grant’s case is nothing out of the ordinary, and I don’t consider it his or any of the other kid’s faults either.

  25. xphoenix87 06/01/2007 at 6:08 PM #

    Well, that comment was actually referring back to my previous post when I said this:

    “Also, lets stop using the excuse that he doesn’t get spacing and ball movement because of the changing offenses. Whether you love it or hate it (and around here it appears to be “hate it”), the Princeton Offense is all about spacing and ball movement. If anything, Gavin should know better than most after 2 years of that, but he doesn’t.”

    That was in response to a few other comments such as these.

    “Apparently some of our current roster’s HS experiences weren’t such that the fundamentals were driven home, and then they evolved in a different system when they arrived in Raleigh”

    “Two very athletic kids, Grant and Fells, who were recruited, signed on to, and got lost in a system that didn’t suit their skills, and more importantly did not mesh with their personalities at all”

    “I think it takes more than a few months to beat the bad habits of the faux PO out of him. So I expect him to be much better next year.”

    Now, I get that he’s a slasher and that doesn’t fit well in the Princeton. I get that you don’t like the former coaching staff and would like to think that all these players have been seriously held back by the years under Herb. However, if you play for two years in the PO, you’ve got to at least have some concept of spacing. That offense is all about spacing and swinging the ball. You may think the previous coaching sucked, but they were not so completely inept that they couldn’t get across the fundamentals of the offense. Look at Cam Bennerman, who became exceptional at spacing and cutting in his time at State. I’m not going to argue that they were great at developing players, but don’t tell me they couldn’t teach fundamentals of ball-movement. There’s a reason why Gavin spent so much time in Herb’s doghouse; he just doesn’t seem to have a good basketball mind for whatever reason. Whether he was unwilling to learn or whether he just is naturally bad at it, he has trouble with that facet of his game.

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