Spring Game Entry (Updated Monday Morn)

We originally posted this entry on Saturday and asked our readers to share their thoughts regarding Saturday’s spring football game. The response from the community has been awesome and our comments section includes a lot of insightful commentary.

Attendance for the day was estimated at 15,000 and the format changed from past years. ‘”The atmosphere was festive. A red-clad crowd of 14,800 showed up. Many former players came back. The band, cheerleaders and dance team helped generate a game-type buzz” (N&O) The Wolfpacker explained the following:

This year’s spring contest debuted a new format that was much more like a regular game. The teams were divided just about evenly with defensive and offensive starters gracing both rosters, as opposed to the first-string offense vs. the first-string defense format used in recent years by former coach Chuck Amato. This year’s spring game skipped over kickoffs and punts, but otherwise followed the regular football rules.

You can see some of the action yourself by simply clicking here.

Additionally:

* this entry at the N&O’s ACCNow shares great observations from the day.

* The newspaper’s more formal recap – included in its print edition – can be found by clicking here.

* Of course, we are big fans of the perspective of our friends at Section Six.

* The Wolfpacker had a quick summary that indicates the running game looked good but “the quarterback play left plenty to be desired.”

It is hard to tell ‘who is whom’ in scrimmages. This is the list of players that started on Saturday.

* Remember that DeMario Pressley did not play because of injury.

* It is nice to see Julian Williams and Jeraill McCuller starting on the offensive line. The redshirt sophomores have had two years to develop physically and emotionally and will be called upon to make the difference this year on a line that has a solid core with Curtis Crouch and Luke Lathan serving as anchors.

* We must mention that freshman, Jimmaul Simmons returned an interception 100 yards for the White.

Perhaps the most important component of the weekend was the turnout of 200-250 former NC State football players that responded to Coach O’Brien’s invitation to please come back for the weekend and get re-attached to the program. (We say “re-attached” because many of the alums felt shut-out from the program by the style in which Chuck Amato chose to run things.) The N&O focused on this topic with a nice article calling O’Brien the “Head of the Family”. This article is full of interesting comments. The following is just a tease from the piece:

Soon after O’Brien was hired, he asked to have lunch with members of the media and didn’t dish out any sarcasm with the sandwiches. He also met with former State players to hear their concerns, their suggestions.

At times, the Murphy Football Center seemed to be Amato’s private domain and reserved for his players, past and present. O’Brien has opened the doors. Plaques have placed on the outside back wall at the concourse level, honoring each of the former NCSU head coaches, including Amato.

“I like his style, his approach,” said former All-America receiver Torry Holt, an All-Pro receiver for the St. Louis Rams. “He’s in control. Now, we all want to see the product he puts on the field.”

Holt was one of the former players who turned out Friday night at the Vaughn Towers reception, munching on chicken wings, seeing old teammates, retelling old stories. Everyone agreed such an event had never been held under any Wolfpack coach.

“I’ve been told this is long overdue,” O’Brien said in addressing the group. “It’s a phenomenal first start. We’d like to make it a tradition and make it better.”

Lastly, if you want more spring reports from around the country, this link will take you there..

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108 Responses to Spring Game Entry (Updated Monday Morn)

  1. statered 04/14/2007 at 3:23 PM #

    Attendace annouced at about 15k. Easily the best attended spring game I have been to.

  2. cpwolfpackfan 04/14/2007 at 3:36 PM #

    what did we look like??? RB’s Qb’s wr???

  3. McPete 04/14/2007 at 3:42 PM #

    All of the rb’s ran well, though eugene fumbled twice i believe. i think baker’s the one to beat. evans was probably the most efficient QB, but Beck def. has the strong arm (i left as it hapened but one of the qb’s tossed an interception that was returned for a touchdown). i thought that the true freshman safety jammaul simmons was very good. loves to hit people and had some pass breakups. all the wr’s looked pretty good on the short stuff, but not many long completions.

  4. RickJ 04/14/2007 at 3:48 PM #

    Saw the first half only. Baker, Brown & Eugene were great. If we could somehow find a way to consistently move the chains, these guys could put up some big numbers.

    QB’s – Evans was the best. Burke was pretty good, decent mobility & poise. Beck’s numbers were terrible in the first half but his arm is all that it has been hyped to be. He threw one ball about sixty yards that seemed like it never got more than 30 feet off the ground. No red jerseys for the QB’s. They took the hits just like a real game.

    Our DB’s looked very good. They tackled well and covered the receivers very well. They intercepted 1 or 2 and should have picked off several mroe. I am afraid our WR’s may have some trouble getting separation.

    Not smart enough to tell you anything about the line play. No LB really stood out to me.

    Remember – this was first half only.

  5. kool k 04/14/2007 at 4:03 PM #

    The final drive was very similar to the Wake game last year…almost threw an interception over the middle…regrouped and got us into the end zone with 16.1 seconds remaining…today was definately the Toney Baker show…does anyone know if Andre Brown was hurt in the second half?

  6. kool k 04/14/2007 at 4:06 PM #

    almost forgot…IT’S DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL!!!!

  7. McPete 04/14/2007 at 4:07 PM #

    Brown wan’t hurt. he was splitting time on the red team with eugene. baker was on the white team.

  8. Grumpy Llama 04/14/2007 at 4:11 PM #

    I thought Evans looked better than Beck and Burke. Beck has a great arm and good accuracy, but rarely seemed to look off his primary. Baker, Brown and Eugene all looked good. I thought the O-line looked improved, but that could just be wishful thinkng.

  9. kool k 04/14/2007 at 4:31 PM #

    I was glad to see Tory Holt and Billy Cowher out there along with all the other former players. I was listening to David Glenn this morning and he said O’Brien was actually calling the former players himself. We got ourselves a very good football coach.

  10. vtpackfan 04/14/2007 at 4:35 PM #

    Brown played on Red team (offensive starters) first half, and white team the second. He looked good, caught a couple of passes out of the backfield and picked up nice yards after catch.

    Eugene caughed it up once really, on a sixty plus yard scamper, so technically that TO wastes an opportunity but doesn’t hurt you field position wise. The other fumble was clearly as much to do with the hand off by Beck IMO. He had just switched from White to Red at halftime. Eugene is much more dimunutive and then the other backs and Harrisons exchange hit him high. Spring game, you’ll have that.

    Baker looked great. I am a big Emmitt Smith fan, and theres reason to believe that TB can have some of the success the other 22 had playing this game. He looks like his really coming along great. Obviously the OL will take him only so far this year.

    The QB’s all looked good at times, shaky at others. Spring game. Evans has poise that can’t be overlooked. Beck has an outright cannon. Burkemay have the “total package”, but he’s still appears on the learning curve between HS and college. Future looks solid at QB.

    Receivers were all right. Some very close misses today, and by the looks of it we will be able to stretch defenses better. Blackman played well, Dunlop is a great possesion receiver, and Jarvis Williams and Davis from the basketball team ran great routes. Hill and Stone were very involved in this scheme. The TE’s are going to have a ton of balls thrown at them.

    Kickers looked good, that 54 yarder just needed a little more umph, it was right on line.

  11. richdail 04/14/2007 at 4:38 PM #

    The answer to this question may be simple, but I wonder why it is both our offenses hung 30 plus points on our defenses but never scored that many points in a single game last year if I recall correctly?

    Are the offenses that much more productive, are the defenses that mediocre, or were the defenses handicapped by spring game rules in some way?

    Should we be excited or concerned? Does any of it mean anything?

  12. brickman 04/14/2007 at 5:12 PM #

    the threat of going deep opened it up for run game what i saw in evans looked better when rolled out . burke looked good all around and the most improvement was off. line that iswhat is going to make our season good or bad .

  13. McPete 04/14/2007 at 5:13 PM #

    The question is whether or not they can field one good offense and one good defense from the 50 or so players that were out there today. and the answer i think is yes. the offense looked better this spring than last spring. andre brown and toney baker ran for a combined 1200 yards last season, so we know they are good against the competition. daniel evans looked way better this year than last. the passing game as a whole did. the defensive talent was spread out on both sides today, but there will be some big time players. pressley, probably the biggest of all, didn’t even play today. i think the D will create more turnovers this season. that was a major problem last year (the offense couldn’t move the ball and the D couldn’t create turnovers). there were lots of missed tackles, but i couldn’t always tell who was missing the tackles. there were some dropped passes by WR’s, but i know A. Evans dropped a couple and he won’t be on the field for the offense next year.

  14. choppack1 04/14/2007 at 5:29 PM #

    First off – great attendance! I think this game gave TOB a taste of one of the main reasons he left BC. I’d be shocked if there was just 15k there. This was by far the best attended spring game I’ve been to.

    Hard to make some judgements based on what I saw. D. Evans did look very good out there today – as did Brown and Baker. Defenisvely, Simmons played well. Our offense looked good today – almost too good. However, keep in mind DeMario didn’t play today.

    Overall, I came away feeling good about everything but our D and some red zone offensive play calls.

  15. PAPacker 04/14/2007 at 5:39 PM #

    My two cents. Evans did look sharp, but I thought his edge over Burke evidenced more his having been in college game situations and his familiarity with the offensivepersonnel/receivers. I still think his arm will be a limiting factor. Beck showed some great athleticism but was not strong in terms of fundamentals. That may just be a coaching thing. I still say as I have for about a year now, two words: start Burke. Most composed, made good decisions, given where he is in his development. Huge arm. Highest ceiling to become a great quarterback. I would have expected Beck to have been much stronger. Evans remains a sentimental favorite. I think Burke is the quarterback TOB will go with soon or will ultimately win the QB battle and be the horse we ride long term. Thoughts?

  16. dj9686 04/14/2007 at 5:48 PM #

    I was at the game and the offensive line looked pretty good, especially running the ball but in the first half the red team had some break downs and Evans was under pressure a lot. The running game appeared to be great most of the time, either that or our run defense really sucks. Hard to tell since both teams were able to run the ball. Got to say that Tony Baker is really running hard and downhill. Players go backwards when he hits them. Jamelle Eugene is just a great change of pace to Baker and Andre Brown. Doesn’t take much of a block for him to be in the secondary quickly. And Brown had a nice long run and consistant medium range yardage. He also had at least one nice catch over the middle. I can barely remember us ever passing to him last year.

    All the QBs started out a bit shakey, but Daniel Evans finished up strong from the second quarter on. Harrison Beck, as mentioned above, does have a strong arm but seems to go for the long ball quite often and tries to throw through people. His stats weren’t too good, I don’t believe. Now, although Justin Burke threw a few INTs, I liked his decisiveness and quick release. He also had a lot of zip on the ball and seemed to move well within the pocket. I think the coaches made a confidence building mistake in not letting him pass the ball in a 3rd and goal play from about the 15. Instead they run an end around which I believe was supposed to end up as a pass play but there was so much penetration it turned in to a run for lost yardage. That was the only time all day I remembered last year’s offense–which is a very good thing. If you didn’t stay for the fourth quarter you really missed some fun. The Red team was behind by 10, 31-21, with about four minutes left so OBrien took out Beck and put Evans back in to practice the two minute drill, I assume. On the first drive Evans quickly moved the Red team to the 50 where he threw a TD pass to put the team within three. The white team was three and out with Burke and Evans methodically took the team down the field, with a couple short runs at the end, really making good use of the clock–another deviation from last year. Finally, instead of simply settling for the tying FG, Evans hit Darrell Blackman on an inside slant for an 8 yard TD with about 21 seconds left. Unfortunately we did get a penalty for excessive celebration at this point–shades of Akron–but there wasn’t much time left. The Red team immediately intercepted and it could have been return for a TD but the DB slid down in bounds rather than run up the score which was 35-31.

    Evans finished up well, but I think he and the other QBs had at least a few more that should have been intercepted, hitting the D right in the hands. It was really hard to get a read on the defensive lines though since they seemed to be moving players between teams and of course the defense was broken up between both teams. The DBs hit really well though, but it seemed like they were having to make a lot of tackles. Willy Young looked great.

    As for the kicking game, I’m a little worried. Neither kicker seems to have much of a leg. The 54 yarder that was a ‘near’ miss was actually about eight yards short in the air. I was sitting up high near the 20 yard line of the goal post that that was being kicked at and I could tell it never had the distance. The ball hit a little short of the back of the endzone but it really lost the height to make the kick about 10 yards out. Neither kicker seemed to get much heigth on their kicks but that could have been my perspective since I was sitting pretty high up with all the people that showed.

    Overall though, the team looked pretty good. No stupid stuff other than the excessive celebration and I liked the mix of plays. A lot more passing than what I expected from O’Brien’s offense, especially downfield passing. I only remember a couple of plays into the flat–Trestman’s fav–and most of the running plays were between the tackles. Not many chances for big losses which has been a trade mark of State’s offense the past couple years. TOB is doing a great job and, of the few Spring games I’ve seen, this was much more organized and polished than Chuck’s. Even the field looked greener. Maybe there’s an analogy there? 😉 Sorry for taking up so much space.

  17. dj9686 04/14/2007 at 5:57 PM #

    PS-In Beck’s defense he had more than a few dropped and Andrew Evans was easily separated from the ball by the defenders. Those Evans’ boys must have one heck of a combined metabolic rate because neither seems to gain weight. They are tough though. Last but not least, I was impressed by Anthony Hill. Last year he dropped a lot of passes when he was uncovered. Today he made some nice catches in traffic while taking a DB along for a ride.

  18. Evroccck 04/14/2007 at 6:02 PM #

    i Disagree with dj9686 on the kickers. Czajowski or whatever his name is was kicking 50+ yarders with ease during warm ups and I think our punter is going to have a big leg, his punts had AMAZING hang time.

    Everyone has pretty much covered the RBs and QBs but if you watched Darrell Blackmon’s route running it reminded me of a young T. Holt. at least 2 times he put a move on #24 that made him look silly. One of those was the TD throw by Evans with under 5 to play.

    I hope our RBs are that good and our Def isn’t that bad! did like the aggressiveness from the secondary, no more sitting back and waiting to just hit people instead they went for the ball AND the hit.

    QBs should have had a few more picks, some easy dropped balls by the secondary. I liked the play calling too, not gimmicky, no dink and dunk swing passes, and not too much running up the middle.

    I loved the fact that TOB brought 300+ old players to the university and plans on having an Annual NC State Football Reunion. That is nothing but positive.

  19. choppack1 04/14/2007 at 6:04 PM #

    Nice post dj – I have to agree w/ most of your post.

    I was pleasantly surprised by Evans, the 3 Bs and the OL – of course, this could bode poorly for our D.

  20. kool k 04/14/2007 at 6:12 PM #

    I was sitting in the upper deck…we never could figure out if the band was out there or if they were just pumping a cd over the P.A. And is the kicker’s first name John or Josh? I heard him referred to as both, on the same kick.

  21. dj9686 04/14/2007 at 6:39 PM #

    Evoroccck, you are probably right. I missed the warm ups so I didn’t see how far they were kicking them from although I did see the second half warm ups and they never kicked from beyound about 47 yards that I saw. An once again where I sat could have affected the appearance that the kicks didn’t appear to have much altitude on them.

    Thanks Choppack for the comp. It’s really hard to tell about the D. We’re supposed to be extremely thin at LB and I’m sure that caused the DBs to make more tackles than normal. Maybe a true freshman or two may help. I kept waiting to hear some of there names and then realized school is still in for them. ha, ha…

    Kool, it really was the band. I was down in the concessions area watching the game from behind the top of the lower deck during the forth quater and saw them.

    Who was the QB with the last name Polk?

  22. dj9686 04/14/2007 at 6:42 PM #

    Anyone see that photo of Butch Davis in the N&O today? Man, did he look bad. Not just the hair and weight loss. Seemed to have aged 15 years.

  23. canesnhlfan 04/14/2007 at 7:14 PM #

    ^ I saw the photo of Butch Davis in the N&O, and you are right. He looked terrible. I was at the game today, and I thought it was cool to see the former players. Daniel E. is the QB to beat, and Baker at RB. I hope the find a way to have Baker and Brown in at the same time. So who was driving the yellow sports car parked beside the Murphy Center?

  24. noah 04/14/2007 at 7:35 PM #

    Cancer has a tendency to make you look bad. I’ll cut the man some slack on that one.

    Our punter is going to be the JUCO guy.

    I couldn’t really tell much about the team today, but I’m still of the opinion that as long as Daniel Evans is our starting QB, we’re not going to a bowl game. I hope I’m wrong.

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