4-2 vs The Big Four; Red Jacket goes 2-0-1 [UPDATED 11:20pm]

“Our fans are comparing ourselves to Duke and North Carolina…I understand that our fans want to be able to compete with them; we all do. But you can be real good on a daily basis and not be better than those two programs.”

Lee Fowler
NC State Athletics Director
March, 2005
ESPN.com

* Thanks to the N&O for the following:

It took Sidney Lowe one season to do what Herb Sendek did only once in 10 seasons — beat Duke and Carolina in the same season.

State beat Duke 85-80 in overtime and UNC on Feb. 3. Lowe’s 2-2 against Duke and UNC. Sendek went 3-21 vs. Duke and 5-17 vs. UNC. The only time Sendek beat both in the same season was 2002-03.

It’s the first time State beat a ranked UNC and a ranked Duke team in the same season since 1990-91.

* Couldn’t help but remember the following in light of the opponent tonight:

But let’s assume for a moment that Sendek does leave N.C. State. The question then becomes, can State do better?

Would State be able to attract a prominent big name coach or would the school have to roll the dice on somebody young and unproven, maybe a Valvano discipline such as Derek Whittenburg?…

…I can’t help thinking about how Clemson football fans ran Ken Hatfield off in the early 1990s—largely because he was a bad personality fit at the redneck school. He didn’t drive a pickup truck or spit tobacco like Danny Ford. All he did was win football games. So they ran him off as Wolfpack fans are trying to run Sendek off and hired Tommy West instead. They loved him—he was a Danny Ford clone in every way except he turned the program into a mediocrity (he even lost to Duke!).

N.C. State had better be careful. They may run off Sendek and find themselves stuck with Tommy West.

Al Featherston,
Duke Basketball Report,
March, 2006

* In a year where NC State played the toughest schedule in the Atlantic Coast Conference, the Wolfpack is guaranteed a non-losing season in Coach Sidney Lowe’s first season at the helm of a depleted NC State program.

* NC State has delivered two of Duke’s last three losses in the ACC Tournament. Tonight, in the first overtime Tourney game in three years, Sidney Lowe became the second NC State coach in a row to defeat a higher-seeded Duke team in his first ACC Tournament.

* Duke had knocked NC State out of four of the last six ACC tournaments – including two wins in the ACC finals.

* Wolfpackers EVERYWHERE need to set a precedent on Friday and fly your flags on your homes and on your cars!!!

* NC State played with one McDonald’s All-American tonight. Duke played with six McDonald’s All-Americans.

* Coach Sidney Lowe improves to a 4-2 record vs the Big Four and currently does not have a losing record against a single Big Four school. Additionally, Coach Lowe is 8-2 vs teams in the state of North Carolina.

* The national media and the HSSS can re-visit your crow by clicking here.

* Do NOT underestimate the importance of the following – Duke did not out rebound State tonight AND the Blue Devils had three more turnovers than State (with Engin Atsur playing).

* The N&O’s ACCNow blog has the following picture linked on the site. It is especially interesting to those of us NC State fans who clamored for a change in our basketball program for six friggin years in light of the fact that if Lee Fowler would have had his way, Sidney Lowe would have never been coaching at NC State. Sometimes you have to wonder about the gall & nerve of some people

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* The N&O says that Costner & the Wolfpack stun Duke.

NC State, with forward Brandon Costner and senior point guard Engin Atsur refusing to wilt, roared back from several deficits to score the second big upset of the ACC men’s basketball tournament tonight, ousting Duke 85-80.

At the end of a back-and-forth second half, Atsur gave the Pack the lead at 70-68 with his third three-pointer of the second half, with 1:30 left, but Nelson tied the score for the 11th time with a layup with 41 seconds to go. State had five shots down the stretch, but Courtney Fells’ three-pointer and Atsur’s tip follow did not find the mark as regulation time expired.

Costner converted a three-point play with 4:22 left in overtime, and State maintained the lead the rest of the way. Gavin Grant’s free throw with 25 seconds left gave the Pack a four-point lead at 83-79, and Costner put it away with two free tosses to make it 85-80 with 11 seconds to go.

Costner led State with a career-high 30 points, and senior guard Engin Atsur added 21. Ben McCauley had 15 points and 10 rebounds.

* Departing shot focused on ACC pride – if Boston College wins on Friday, the ACC will have NINE teams with 20 or more wins.

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131 Responses to 4-2 vs The Big Four; Red Jacket goes 2-0-1 [UPDATED 11:20pm]

  1. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 12:57 AM #

    OH SHIT!!!

  2. Mr O 03/09/2007 at 12:58 AM #

    Holy &^%& Harvey Hale.

  3. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 12:58 AM #

    It’s not raining threes. It’s HALE-ING threes.

  4. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 12:59 AM #

    That Hale is as big as basketballs!

  5. dthompson44 03/09/2007 at 12:59 AM #

    H.H. Redick!?

  6. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 12:59 AM #

    Okay, that’s enough. I’m through.

  7. BJD95 03/09/2007 at 12:59 AM #

    His only miss was an airball that was a good foot short. Ridiculous stuff. I want 3 OTs!

  8. Mr O 03/09/2007 at 1:00 AM #

    wufpack: The G-Man should have thought of that one by now.

  9. Mr O 03/09/2007 at 1:01 AM #

    Didn’t he get fouled on that last one?

  10. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 1:02 AM #

    Two guys fumble it out of bounds. Good old Wake, trying to give it away.

  11. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 1:06 AM #

    I’m going to go ahead and call it. This has to be the best full day of basketball the ACC tournament has ever seen. I’m sure some folks will say that since it’s a Thursday it can’t compare to a quarterfinal day, but screw ’em. A 2OT game. Another OT game. A third game that came down to the final possession. And a fourth game that essentially came down to the final possession as Maryland had a shot to tie with 5 seconds left. All 4 games were upsets, with 3 of them being huge upsets. Crazy day, and I got to watch all 175 minutes. Awesome.

  12. Mr O 03/09/2007 at 1:06 AM #

    One of the best games I can remember. Too bad Morrow missed that shot.

  13. WolftownVA81 03/09/2007 at 1:08 AM #

    Great finish to a great first tournament day. Deeks just wanted it more. A clean sweep for the underdogs.

  14. mex367 03/09/2007 at 1:08 AM #

    Congrats Wake. Just shows you that no one is better than the ACC from top to bottom.

  15. BJD95 03/09/2007 at 1:08 AM #

    I can’t believe that shot didn’t go in. We were detined to play forever.

  16. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 1:10 AM #

    Wow, Hale had 21 points in the OT’s. After only ONE point in the first 40 minutes.

  17. Mr O 03/09/2007 at 1:10 AM #

    Wufpack: The first game had two teams slugging it out for an NCAA birth. The second was a big upset of the last place team in the conference over one of the hottest teams in the country. Then an overtime game with us beating media darling Duke who was 26-1 in their last nine tournaments. And then a double overtime thriller with both teams scoring well over the century mark.

    There really aren’t words to describe it.

  18. wufpack 03/09/2007 at 1:11 AM #

    Ellis must be reading this blog and stealing my puns.

  19. PurplePeopleEaters 03/09/2007 at 3:04 AM #

    Man what a game. After those events, i have a strange feeling about this team.

    The schedule actually sets up quite well for us. If we’re able to pull one off against UVA (which is a very winnable game) we’ll be facing either VT or Wake, both of whom we swept. Depth is obviously a big issue for us having to play 4 games in 4 days. If we do by chance end up in the finals I think it’s over with our lack of depth.

    The duke win IMO put us into the NIT. It’s hard for a lesser selection commitee to overlook 2 wins against teams of that caliber along with a win against VT.

  20. class of 74 03/09/2007 at 5:48 AM #

    This sure makes going home alot easier, I grew up in the shawdows of Duke Chapel. And as good as this feeling is, it doesn’t compare to the feeling of telling those that thought this year we would field the worst team in ACC history to now eat crow. Given the circumstances, Coach Lowe has proven he can lead our program back to where we all will be proud. And a special thanks to, you know who somewhere in the southwest desert area, for seeing the light and helping make this possible.

    Who knows maybe there is more magic to come this weekend. Go pack!

  21. Lunatic Fringe 03/09/2007 at 6:12 AM #

    Can someone please explain the logic of the ACC Tournament bracketing? The final 8 teams are the top 4 seeds and bottom 4 seeds so why are the match-ups not 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, 4-9?

    We (#10 team) take on UVA (#2 team) on Friday. It just does not make any logical sense to me.

  22. Great Dane Guy 03/09/2007 at 6:18 AM #

    so wasn’t that Sids 4th win against top 20 teams this year? Hell of a job.

  23. BJD95 03/09/2007 at 7:30 AM #

    ^^ Most conference tourneys (including the ACCT) don’t re-seed each round. Had the top seeds all won, the match-ups would be 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, and 4-5. More than anything, this is designed so the team playing the late game doesn’t get the noon tip the next day, etc.

    PPE called it – if you want to get WAY ahead of yourself, we are a combined 4-0 against our possible semifinal opponents.

    We are up to #88 in the Sagarin rankings this morning.

  24. BJD95 03/09/2007 at 7:31 AM #

    Per Sagarin, we are 4-5 against Top 25 opponents (0-6 against teams 26-50, oddly enough).

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