2007.03.20_ Big Dose of Bytes

The last week or so has been very good for NC State. We’ve blogged a ton of items and hope that you will take some time to scroll through the blog and make sure that you haven’t missed anything that of interest. Just this weekend we had almost a dozen entries that looked forward and looked back.

Even though we have been quite busy, a lot of comments/observations have fallen through the cracks. The following are some quick bytes that haven’t been shared since the ACC Tournament:

* Much is being made about the ACC’s poor performance in the NCAA Tournament. Although I think the ACC was the most competitive and deepest conference in America (as highlighted by the RPI), the conference’s failure to advance more than one program into the sweet sixteen does not surprise me. We were very deep this season, but it was never a secret that we lacked the “star power” at the top of the league to advance a lot of teams deep into the tournament.

* Despite the league’s struggles this season, you can always turn to history boost the ego. Dave Glenn logged an entry focused on the ACC’s dominance of the modern tournament history that will make you feel better. Just a couple to wet your whistle:

The ACC’s all-time NCAA Tournament winning percentage (.674) is significantly better than any other conference. The Big East (.625) is second, the Big Ten (.621) third and the Pac-10 (.609) fourth. Nobody else is over 60 percent.

Since 1980, when the NCAA lifted its limits on the number of participants per conference, the ACC has had just one losing season in NCAA Tournament play (5-6 in 1987) and has a success rate over 66 percent. Again, nobody else is close.

Since the field expanded to 64 teams in 1985, the ACC has had 111 teams in the NCAA Tournament, about the same as the Big East (116). Yet the ACC has 221 wins in that span — 35 more than the Big East. The Big Ten has had 124 participants since 1985 yet has 42 fewer wins. The SEC, with 110 participants, has 61 fewer wins. The Pac-10 has less than half as many NCAA wins as the ACC in the modern era. Since the Big 12 formed in 1996, it trails the ACC 96-72.

The ACC has won three of the last six (50 percent) national championships, with three different teams — Duke in 2001, Maryland in 2002, and North Carolina in 2005. The league also has won six of the last 16 (37.5 percent) NCAA titles, and eight of the last 25 (32 percent).

* UNC-CH had to play ABOVE their normal game to beat us in the Atlantic Coast Conference Championship. That’s a compliment, folks.

* The selection of Brendan Wright over Brandon Costner as the ACC Tournament’s MVP was ridiculous. I realize to the victor goes the spoils, except that I remember in 1983 when NC State won the NCAA title and yet Akeem was the Final 4 MVP. I guess only NC State gets a shaft like that.

* It was interesting to hear that many, many VT fans were pulling for UNC in the ACC. Tells you that they are indeed a newcomer and don’t understand basketball in their new league. I had heard that many VT folks were ‘VT football fans but UNC basketball fans’ – guess that was true.

* If I could have chosen the (non-Big Four) team for NC State to sweep this season then it would have been Virginia Tech. As I said in a comment on February 1st:

As likable as Seth Greenburg is, his propensity to publicly comment on NC State’s coaching situation (Herb Sendek) last year really rubbed me the wrong way. He talked A LOT on Fox Sports radio, etc about the situation in Raleigh and was too critical of Wolfpackers for my liking. IMHO, he would have been better served to have kept his mouth shut. In 2005, Greenberg defeated a deep and experienced Wolfpack coached Herb Sendek in their first battle in Cassell Coliseum. In 2007, Greenberg lost a thin and inexperienced Wolfpack team coached by Sidney Lowe. I guess I don’t blame him for loving Sendek so much.

* One of the biggest winners of the last two weeks has been Dennis Horner. The kid is making some clutch shots and is learning how to create his own shot more easily in the flow of the offense. Costner is a given, but Horner will be a critical role player over the next few years.

* The other big winner is obviously Sidney Lowe. Some are comparing Sid’s run to Herb’s in 1997 in believe that this will put some additional pressure on Sidney to produce better results more quickly. That may be true, but I also think that Sidney is more prepared to elevate the program more quickly because of his recruiting philosophy differs from Sendek’s. In addition to his communication style with players and his inability to coach offense, Sendek struggled for his next 4 years because he effectively ignored North Carolina High School talent and opted to cash his ‘rising star’ chips on kids with no local ties like Adam Harrington. When something goes wrong for kids like these, their first instinct is to transfer as they have nothing binding them to the area or the school. This created significant turmoil and trouble in Sendek’s tenure. Coach Lowe has already shown that NC kids are an important cog in his philosophy (Johnny Thomas, CJ Williams, and even Tracy Smith). Te stability that these kids will create in addition to huge marketing boost fromt he last couple of weeks will serve Sidney well.

* Sidney became THE story over the last few weeks, which is much different than when Herb did this in 1997. College coaches are stars, they are mega-stars when they win big (Roy, K). Lowe has elevated himself in the national media tremendously over the past 4 days. His exposure and recognition factors have grown exponentionally – its not a Amex (K) or Coke (Roy) commercial, but the red jacket and Sid Lowe scored major points in the visibility factor.

* That will help tremendously in recruiting. We arent going to be stealing players from Roy and K, but many of those will at least look at Sid, and I think he’s already elevated himself to the #3 or #4 in the ACC in terms of visibility.

* Its funny, Gary Walters talked about the unbalanced Big 12 schedule on why Texas Tech got into the NCAA over K-State. I don’t give a shit about either team, but did the committee look at UVA’s unbalanced ACC schedule when they gave them a 4 seed despite their RPI that indicated they would be somehere around an 8 or 9 seed? They had the EASIEST schedule within the ACC. They completely folded down the stretch, losing to Miami, Wake and NC State in 3 of their last 4 games. (All 100+ RPI teams). Yet, they get a 4 seed? With an RPI if 52?

* Piece of advice – if you use a computer program (Yahoo, ESPN, etc) to track your NCAA Tournament brackets, ALWAYS re-check to make sure that your edits/changes have been saved properly. I made some changes to be bracket in SFN’s Yahoo Group that ultimately did not save. Of course, most of the changes would have been positive for me and would have put me tied for first place. Oh well.

* F- Wes Miller and Ty Lawson

* The ACC’s poor performance in the NCAA will hurt all of our checkbooks in the coming years. This is a GREAT article explaining he NCAA’s impact on ACC finances.

* Of course, what would a game day be without Section Six’s preview?

There is a certain amount of comfort that comes with playing West Virginia, comfort that is derived from this fact: the Mountaineers suck at rebounding just as much as we do. It’s like finding a familiar face in a foreign town. “Boy am I glad to see you!”

Those other teams, they’re tough. But not you, sweet, sweet West Virginia. Not you. You kindly offer opponents their missed shots while keeping none of your own for yourself.

When we played WVU back in early December, we had one of our best offensive rebounding performances of the season, grabbing 37% of our misses. Mountaineer opponents have posted an OR% over 40.0 eleven times this season (Wolfpack opponents have done it seven times). West Virginia has at least managed some improvement at the offensive end, upping its OR% from 21.3% to 30.4% this season. That’s still terrible, but it’s a step up from inept (and it’s better than our OR%).

With the two teams shooting and rebounding about the same in the first meeting, turnovers meant the difference. NC State turned the ball over 17 times (nine of those were Gavin’s) while WVU gave it away seven times

06-07 Basketball General

200 Responses to 2007.03.20_ Big Dose of Bytes

  1. noah 03/20/2007 at 1:11 PM #

    Jerrod Ward too. He was a bust, but he was a top recruit.

  2. choppack1 03/20/2007 at 1:14 PM #

    As it pertains to producing NBA talent – that 83 class sucked.

    Kenny Smith probably had the best pro careers of those guys. I wonder how many of those guys went on to become NBA All-Stars.

  3. chris92heel 03/20/2007 at 1:14 PM #

    Good pull Noah. Forgot about him.

  4. beowolf 03/20/2007 at 1:16 PM #

    PM, is the prognosis THAT bad?

  5. noah 03/20/2007 at 1:20 PM #

    Reggie Williams had a nice little career with the Nuggets. Joe Wolf and Dave Popson both played a long time, even though neither was a star.

    Mugsy Bogues was in the class and played forever.

    The 1984 class was a lot better.

    Cedric Henderson from Georgia, Charles Smith and Demetrious Gore from Pittsburgh, Ferrell, Derrick Cheivous from Mizzou, Kenny Battle from Illinois…

  6. noah 03/20/2007 at 1:21 PM #

    beowolf – yes, she’s dying. It’s spread to her spine.

  7. noah 03/20/2007 at 1:24 PM #

    “As it pertains to producing NBA talent – that 83 class sucked.”

    The 1987 NBA draft, as I recall, is considered to be one of the weaker drafts. Or it was at the time.

    http://www.sportsstats.com/jazzyj/greats/87/index.html

    David Robinson, Scottie Pippen, Reggie Miller, Kevin Johnson and Reggie Lewis are your only real all-stars. Reggie Miller was the only one of those guys who was a significant high school recruit.

    A whole lotta role players.

  8. TNCSU 03/20/2007 at 1:30 PM #

    That really sucks that our Women’s and Men’s games overlap. I wish they could’ve started the women’s game a little earlier.

    Speaking of recruiting, how many McD’s AA’s were on this year’s All-ACC team? I think…one – Hansbro. And I think only two on the second team – McBob and Wright, so there you go. I agree with LRM’s comments from way above. Overall, 3 stars, 4 stars, whatever, coaching along with personal drive and discipline will make a great player! One or two McD’s AA’s are not going to win a Championship for you — it takes coaching and players with talent & HEART. Our new coach looks to be a guy that can juggle all those very well! Now, let’s whip some Mountaineers!

  9. choppack1 03/20/2007 at 1:42 PM #

    Noah – let me clarify – as far as ranking the talent…that McD class stunk.

    I’ll have to watch the women’s game tonight – is it in Raleigh? I didn’t know Yow was in that bad shape, even as I read the article. I had seen her at the games and she showed good energy.

  10. packbackr04 03/20/2007 at 1:57 PM #

    bigwood^ i have heard some people say that Big Lew hasnt even been travelling with the team recently? dont know what to think of that but.. and as for Tracy Smith I havent heard anything other than runors that his grades arent as good as once thought

  11. redfred2 03/20/2007 at 2:07 PM #

    That is truely sad to hear about Kay Yow. But then, she is still on the sidelines right now, and she is still loving it. Her health may preclude her from being considered one of the luckiest people on the planet right now, but then again, from all outward appearances she just may be feeling like she has been.

  12. choppack1 03/20/2007 at 2:15 PM #

    “He may of been mentioned earlier but who was the PG out from the area that Herb didn’t go after that eventually went to Clemson?’

    Is that the kid from GSO Dudley? He wasn’t a big, but a SG…He didn’t last at Clempsun either…but he was supposed to be good. He was kind of like a 6-4 version of Courtney Fells.

  13. chris92heel 03/20/2007 at 2:27 PM #

    PG – McIntire?

    The SG/WF from Dudley is vincent whitt. IIRC, he slid down the recruiting rankings during and after his junior year, plus there were grade concerns with him.

  14. bTHEredterror 03/20/2007 at 2:29 PM #

    Chp, I think his name was Vincent? Whitt, and he was a big time player on the team that housed Brendan Haywood at Dudley. I think he had academic issues and left Clemson early, but in HS, he was a great player.

  15. SCpackfan 03/20/2007 at 2:44 PM #

    sorry, who is big lew,

  16. Gene 03/20/2007 at 2:48 PM #

    http://tinyurl.com/228g53

    From a GoPACK article on Hawkeye Whitney, from Sept. 18 of last year.

    Good read on another former Wolfpack player, who had a tough time after going pro, with drugs and alcohol.

  17. bTHEredterror 03/20/2007 at 3:02 PM #

    Go to ESPN.com and vote for Lo’s dunk against TWO UNX moments as “Most Memorable NCAA Moment”. We’re trailing the Webber timeout greatly! Bottom right hand corner of frontpage.

  18. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 03/20/2007 at 3:03 PM #

    “He may of been mentioned earlier but who was the PG out from the area that Herb didn’t go after that eventually went to Clemson?’

    PG – McIntire?

    I pretty sure that is who I was thinking about. Didn’t he end up beating us his senior season in the ACC tournament? Wasn’t he from the area and wanted to come to State?

  19. noah 03/20/2007 at 3:03 PM #

    Big Lew is the Lewandowski kid that we signed very late last year. Seven-footer with (let’s be honest) no athleticism. He blew out a knee and that didn’t help matters.

    He’s more of a Div-II, III or NAIA player. He’s definitely not someone who can compete in the ACC.

  20. ChuckAllYall 03/20/2007 at 3:11 PM #

    What’s the word on Tracy Smith? Is it likely he’ll qualify?

  21. CedarGroveWolf 03/20/2007 at 3:38 PM #

    “But westwolf, you are on my s*t list too. You could have told me.”

    LMAO!!

  22. highstick 03/20/2007 at 4:06 PM #

    This one may have been posted earlier, but someone just sent it to me in response to the link about Paulus’ “dive”!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOgC2Qbqh4

    SFN: highstick…do you not read SFN?

  23. highstick 03/20/2007 at 4:10 PM #

    The following is the response to my critique of how Costner should have gotten the Case Award:

    The Tournament MVP (Case Award) is voted on by members of the media.

    Thank you for your support of the Atlantic Coast Conference and its 12 member institutions.

    Heather

    Heather C. Hirschman
    Website Coordinator
    Atlantic Coast Conference

    My follow up response was what did the sports media know about basketball except “all hail Tar Heels”!

  24. noah 03/20/2007 at 4:14 PM #

    “What’s the word on Tracy Smith? Is it likely he’ll qualify?”

    There is no official word…but I’ve heard from a couple of people that he’s not as close to being qualified as initially reported. And his high school coach is backing away from some comments he made earlier about his test scores (he says he was misquoted).

    And last I heard, the NCAA has NOT cleared Mt. Zion yet.

  25. branjawn 03/20/2007 at 4:26 PM #

    What will become of Darrell Davis? He was Pasco County high school basketball player of the year and an honorable mention all-state selection. I am not sure if he will try again next year given his limited, almost non-existent minutes. I wonder if he can develop like Julius Peppers did, into a legit ACC caliber player. Heck, if he could be a legit ACC caliber bench player I’d be happy!

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