Florida State Game Thread (Updated with Post-Game Analysis/Ranting)

Today’s game is crucial for NC State’s post-season hopes. The Pack needs 1 more regular season to qualify for the NIT, and 2 wins would erase any doubt about receiving a bid. On a second front, there are ample ACCT seeding/cellar avoidance ramifications. A loss today pretty much ensures that State will be seeded no higher than 10th (with 12th still a distinct possibility). Wins over FSU and Wake would likely produce a 9 seed. As much as I’d like to set up a Friday date with VT instead of UNC, I think getting a higher seed looks better on paper (in terms of beating pre-season expectations).

Section Six has a good preview here. Short version – without Toney Douglas, the Noles have sucked. If we have our legs, I think we have at least a 50/50 shot to take these guys.

1:38 – I didn’t think we could play shittier than we did against Miami, but I was wrong. So far, this is EASILY the worst we have played on offense AND defense all season. Just pitiful.

Halftime – Coming out of halftime, the only starter on the floor should be Costner. Absolutely nobody else on this team showed up to play today. Send a message prior to the Wake game, that this kind of half-assed play is completely unacceptable. Caveat – Atsur’s play might be due to physical limitations rather than attitude.

2:09 – So far, the 2nd half is even worse. What a load of freaking crap this is. No fight, no effort, no pride to wear the uniform.

2:45 – Is Cliff Ellis mentally “challenged” – seriously? Gavin Grant is the king of garbage time. Would have been nice if he had done something while the outcome was still in doubt. Why are we risking further injury to Costner and Atsur? Complete lunacy.

End of Game – A fittingly humiliating end to a humilating game. Ben McCauley was invisible again, and has likely played his way out of all-ACC consideration over the last 2 games. Fells played as if he were stoned. Atsur was clearly way off, and the coaching staff stubbornly (and stupidly, IMHO) played him all the way, even after the outcome was clearly decided. We need the next game to qualify for the NIT and avoid last place, so it sure as hell better not come back to haunt us. Before the game the TV foofs were talking about FSU wanting the score in the 70s, and NC State wanting it in the 50s. In a way, that’s exactly what happened – Florida State 78, NC State 52.

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113 Responses to Florida State Game Thread (Updated with Post-Game Analysis/Ranting)

  1. vtpackfan 02/24/2007 at 10:34 AM #

    We’ve had a 50/50 chance against everyone since Engin got back. We’ve got to find a way (other then hitting 70% of fg’s) to keep the intensity and execution through both halfs. Either on the boards with tip outs and good positioning, or great defensive spurts, or somehow getting Horner or Fergueson into an opportunity to score some much needed bench points.

    I don’t think we’ll see another FL. excursion like we did when we played in Miami. The guys are looking preety confident in their offensive sets and the defense has improved on the perimeter. I hope Fells comes with everything because he seems to be the X factor right at this point of the season. Everyone has seen plenty of tape of game in the ACC. We know Thorton is a handful and they know Atsur and McCauley can really get it clicking fast. Fells is the threat we have that when he’s at the top of his game you really have no way of stopping. Unfortunately he’s the one player this season who has not been able to shake off a shaky beggining of the game, so you generally know what you’re getting 5-10 minutes into it.

  2. ktpritch 02/24/2007 at 12:25 PM #

    Reading today’s N&O, one would think there wasn’t a game today…sad. Nice of the hometown paper to show some love.

    1 SMALL paragraph, and I actually had to search through the sports section multiple times to find it.

  3. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 12:46 PM #

    I agree completely vt, but I’d take it a step further. With no bench scoring all year we can’t afford for any of our starting 5 to disappear for a game if we want to win. We don’t need to shoot +70% for the game but anything less than 50% will not get it done. We don’t need to win the rebounds but we can’t allow the opposition to grab 2-3X the offensive boards. It’s not so much everyone having an unbelievable game in order to win, simply playing solid will get it done but that means everyone contributing. If Grant and/or Fells don’t contribute with scoring or become turnover prone and allows the opposition easy transition baskets, then you can hang it up.

  4. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 12:48 PM #

    I’d also like to add that I’m predicting we won’t be in foul trouble today. Just a hunch but since the opposition is not named UNX or Dook I’m thinking we’ll be okay.

  5. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 1:32 PM #

    Note to the NC State Players: Game started at 1:00 pm, not 1:30.

  6. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 1:40 PM #

    I’m probably just talking to myself but I’ve got to point this out. I’m sick and tired of watching these lazy passes. Everyone in the league knows if they make a break on a pass they’ll tip it and get the steal.

  7. tractor57 02/24/2007 at 1:42 PM #

    one word – flat.

  8. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 1:43 PM #

    tractor, there’s flat and there’s not even trying. Next away game I’d recommend sending the women’s team, they at least want to play.

  9. WolfPup35 02/24/2007 at 1:44 PM #

    Rather flat to start than flat at finish–let’s see what pans out.
    Seems like Lowe’s using bench early.

  10. CarnifeX 02/24/2007 at 1:47 PM #

    Lazy.

  11. #44 17 24 02/24/2007 at 1:48 PM #

    Pathetic. We dont even look like we care out there.

  12. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 1:48 PM #

    FSU = Wants to Win, NCSU = Going through the motions.

    I’m looking at the facial expressions and body language of both teams and it’s evident that FSU has the fire and determination to win the game, NCSU looks like it doesn’t even want to be there playing. I just can’t figure this team out considering that noting is set in stone and so much left to play for. Did someone tell them after the UNX game that the season was over??

  13. Sw0rdf1sh 02/24/2007 at 1:53 PM #

    Did our boys put butter all over their hands before the game?

    Hold on to the damn ball.

    And when the heck are we going to start rebounding?

  14. vtpackfan 02/24/2007 at 1:54 PM #

    How long until someone puts out the link to “By the way, we are not very good this year”?

  15. tvp 02/24/2007 at 1:56 PM #

    We just don’t have a clue as to how to get anyone open on offense right now. Our screens aren’t freeing anyone

  16. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 1:57 PM #

    What are the chances that FSU will score more points in the first half then we will for the entire game?

  17. tvp 02/24/2007 at 2:00 PM #

    FSU’s crowd is just laughably bad.

  18. Sw0rdf1sh 02/24/2007 at 2:00 PM #

    Holy cow 10 turnovers with 5 minutes left in the first half.

    And I just heard a fan say “How did you guys beat the Tarheels?”

  19. Wolf in Mavs Clothing 02/24/2007 at 2:00 PM #

    “Note to the NC State Players: Game started at 1:00 pm, not 1:30.”

    I would second this, but since we are still being owned.. maybe someone told them 2:00?

  20. Rick 02/24/2007 at 2:00 PM #

    This is bad.
    Can we just not play in Fla?

  21. Sw0rdf1sh 02/24/2007 at 2:02 PM #

    Was that 3 the first shot I’ve seen Neiman take all year?

    If he can hit them like that he needs to stay the hell in the game.

  22. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 2:03 PM #

    I’VE GOT IT!! I’ve figured out what the problem is. NC State doesn’t have the money to send the team to the state of Florida so we decided to do what FSU’s band did during football season, we’re paying a local high school’s bball team to play in our sted. Only cost is to FedEx the uniforms. BRILLIANT!!!!

  23. StateFans 02/24/2007 at 2:03 PM #

    This has nothing to do with talent or depth. We just didn’t show up today.

  24. tvp 02/24/2007 at 2:05 PM #

    I wonder if the guys are hung over again.

  25. 1.21 Jigawatts 02/24/2007 at 2:05 PM #

    Maybe we should suggest to the Athletic Dept to stop booking the team at the Comfort Suites and start staying at a Holiday Inn Express.

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