NC State Placement Stats

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Read ’em and weep. Could you get into NC State today? Don’t short yourself too much…the SAT was recalibrated a more than a decade ago where you should add approximately 100 points to scores achieved before the change.

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39 Responses to NC State Placement Stats

  1. Buddygreen 01/23/2007 at 5:23 PM #

    tooyoungtoremember you can replace me anytime, I own the company. I take cash.

  2. tooyoungtoremember 01/23/2007 at 5:37 PM #

    You own the company? That’s your best argument? Well just let me get on my knees and kiss those frostbitten, wrinkly feet. I’d have much more respect if you worked to rise through the ranks. Anyone can own a business. It takes fortitude to get promoted.

  3. Woof Wolf 01/23/2007 at 6:04 PM #

    It takes ass kissing to get promoted a lot of the time. I worked for a large company for twenty years and talent plus hard work and results don’t always get rewarded.

  4. the_phisherman 01/23/2007 at 6:13 PM #

    I also agree with the new GPA system. I took 9 AP courses in high school and earned 43 hours of college credit. Some of these courses were harder than similar courses in college. For example, the AP Calculus course that I took covered material that was taught in 3 different courses at NCSU. Is it fair to penalize a student who takes on this challenge and gets a B or C instead of getting an A in some basic high school math course?

  5. CarnifeX 01/23/2007 at 7:34 PM #

    “A lady who worked with me told me that her daughter made a 13-something on the SAT and had a 3.9 GPA and I told her not to worry about her having any trouble getting into any school in the state. The only school she was accepted to was ECU and she got wait-listed by them.”

    There are different set of standards here. The SAT that she was up against is a high score of 2100 and the GPA scale was probably weighted or a 5.0 scale.

    So that said, thats probably where you’d expect those scores to end up.

  6. highstick 01/23/2007 at 11:15 PM #

    Wonder what Fowler’s SAT scores were????

  7. Gene 01/24/2007 at 5:23 AM #

    had a 3.9 GPA

    GPA scale was probably weighted or a 5.0 scale.

    I’ve heard AP courses are now weighted with 6 grade points for an ‘A’.

    That being the case, than GPA’s for determining class rank are than skewed upwards, well past 4.0. When I was in high school, they had 5.0 grade points for an ‘A’ in Honors / AP courses, and people with a 4.0 GPA were barely getting into the top 25% of my graduating class. With the added grade points for AP classes, a 3.9 GPA is probably not in the top 25% of a graduating class anymore.

  8. legacyman 01/24/2007 at 7:42 AM #

    Buddygreen,

    I understand your message as I am about your age or probably a bit your senior. There was no repeat a flunked course and lose the F during most of my years. About my junior or senior year one kid in my dorm took a math course over because he made a B in it. I asked him why and he said that he now could repeat a course and lose the lower grade and wanted to try for a 4.0 or as close as possible in his math major. Most of us couldn’t do that due to a lack of time. I don’t know how long that new strategy was allowed. I was never able to remove the one F I made in chemistry.

    Having worked with and taught kids throughout several decades, I can see the lack of respect for older folks and the hard work they put into their degrees. As for the uninformed statement re your “antiquated” degree, ah the ignorance of youth. I wonder how much that poster thinks math and physics have changed in thirty years. Is 2+2=4 antiquated today…hardly.

    As the owner of a business, I imagine you are really scared of the higher intelligence of today’s youth compared to those older folks who don’t know anything… Give me an experienced worker any time or any day.

  9. Buddygreen 01/24/2007 at 8:20 AM #

    tooyoungtorember You have no doubt no clue on what it takes to own a business. You see I worked corporate america for years working my way promotion after promotion. Then left with my on own savings and built a company from the ground up. I watched graduates from my own time with attitudes like you, felt they were entitledwith the new better just educated with the most advanced forward thinking in humanitarian history mindset. They took their corporate cubicle jobs and were happy. Now most of them laid off or their companies have closed. Some now teachers, but seems odd you think todays graduates know more than past generations and better prepared when you been taught by those of past generations. Does the student really know more than the teacher? Good luck to you tooyoungtoremember!

  10. packpigskinfan23 01/24/2007 at 10:51 AM #

    ^I think your getting a little carried away there… YOUR attitude was the nasty one to begin with that would cause TooYoungToRemember to be nasty to you. Your arrogance and ignorance on the issue of GPA/SAT scores is apparent. Just because you have worked in “corporate america” and made your way to owning your own buisness does not make you better than, or even smarter than anyone. It may show your work ethic, but it shows nothing of character.

  11. noah 01/24/2007 at 11:53 AM #

    “State just flunked you like you deserved, but the liberal wusses at UNC didn’t want their little future left wingers not graduating or having bad GPA’s.”

    Thanks for reminding me to never listen to anything you have to say about any topic ever again. I always appreciate it when people bow themselves out of a conversation.

  12. tooyoungtoremember 01/24/2007 at 12:17 PM #

    IIRC, the option to retake a class at NCSU is only available for classes taken in a student’s first year of attendance. It gives students who were too sheltered for too long (such as those GAWolf was referring to) a second chance after they leave home and have to teach themselves to pass a class without their parents making them do their homework. With that being said, I think the student’s transcript somehow still reflects that they took the class twice and didn’t do so well the first time.

    College classes aren’t easier now than they were 20, 30, or 40 years ago. Kids today aren’t more intelligent than they were back then either. Graduation rates are higher now because students are better prepared. Students know what to expect when they get to a college classroom because they have taken college-level courses in high school. My father (NCSU class of ’68) was the valedictorian of his high school class. He barely passed his first year of classes. Why? Not because he wasn’t intelligent, but because his school didn’t even offer some of the prerequisites he needed to be successful in a first-year, engineering-level math class.

    Math and physics at their fundamental levels may not have changed much in thirty years. And yes, 2 + 2 still adds up to four. But the highest levels of any subject are constantly changing. In physics, I’ll bet we know a lot more about things as small (or smaller) as the atom to things as big (or bigger) as the universe than we did even two years ago. I am currently finishing a Master’s Degree. This fall I will be starting a PhD. My area of expertise incorporates advanced concepts from biology, genetics, genomics, chemistry, and statistics. Fundamental concepts in all of those areas have dramatically changed over the past five to ten years, much less the past 30. Did you even learn about Watson and Crick when you were in college? Were they even able to tell you what DNA was or what it looked like?

    The people who are the most successful in their careers are those that constantly pursue greater knowledge. Not all of that knowledge comes from a classroom, but college teaches fundamentals and gives one the ability to educate him/herself.

    Buddygreen, we can go around and around all day about the argument between age and experience vs. youth and exuberance. But the reality is that older people will cease to advance in their lives and careers if they refuse to adapt and are set in their ways, and young people will never get off the starting block if they refuse to acknowledge those that have come before them.

    I will leave you with this ancient quote to mull over:

    “A good teacher is one whose students surpass him and make him increasingly less necessary.”

  13. highstick 01/24/2007 at 1:15 PM #

    If I recall correctly when I was a freshman and sophmore from fall of 63-spring of 65, State would allow you to retake up to 15 hours and replace the grade. After my Army sabbatical and return in the fall of 70, that had gone away. However, State was no longer primarily an engineering and agricultural school, the liberal arts/business departments had greatly expanded(as well as the female student population).

    I’ll totally agree about current day students being more prepared. Calculus and physics killed me cause I just wasn’t prepared coming out of a small NC high school even though my class rank was very high as well as SAT’s. Of course, I’ve always reflected that my math brain somehow was more suited to be a CPA than an engineer. Glad for small favors since the aerospace job market went to hell when I was graduating! Seems like I did a research paper on the “Declining job market in the aerospace industry” in a labor economics course and was glad I’d changed curriculums.

  14. mroli 01/24/2007 at 8:18 PM #

    lol… what a conversation. I love this board. A couple of comments from an ’89 CSC grad:

    1) I’ve seen quite a few angry PhD’s that think they deserve better in life than being stuck on the corporate ladder, but are two pissed to do anything about it. Success in the real world is about relationships. The degrees will only get you so far. Companies are designed to take advantage of wild-eyed youth.

    2) Starting a company is the hardest damn thing that I have ever done. You need a set of skills that are fundementally different from those learned in college.

    buddygreen, I respect your achievment. tooyoungtooremember, I have a job waiting for you when you get out!

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