CUTigers Paints Perfect Pack Picture

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What we have in this entry is a link to a FANTASTIC commentary about NC State Football and Lee Fowler from CUTigers.com.

(Wouldn’t it be cool if some in the NC State online media community would choose to express some editorial commentary and/or original thought on these issues? Oh wait. If these other sites could express these thoughts then there would be less reason for our existence!)

This entry is fantastic. We can’t thank Brett Jensen and CUTigers more for this DEAD ON commentary of just how poorly things are managed within Lee Fowler’s office at NC State. It is like Jensen has tapped into the brain of most of our writing staff!!!

It is fantastically interesting and refreshing to see the perception of things in Raleigh from someone not directly associated with the emotions of being an NC State fan. We particularly love Jensen’s comments about Fowler (and NC State) sticking our head in the sand in light of the fact that we have used the reference in a previous entry.

Head in the sand

You will see that CUTigers mentioned some of Fowler’s recent comments regarding CTC from this week. SFN referred to those comments in this fantastic recent entry (but our readership did not directly discuss the comments like we thought that they would).

Commentary: Wolfpack on the Edge
By Brett Jensen
CUTigers.com
Posted Nov 10, 2006

With the 2006 football season drawing to a close and with the hiring of Butch Davis at North Carolina presumably a done deal, the future employment of Chuck Amato as N.C. State’s coach will surely become a hot topic with media and fans throughout the ACC.

Before a single game had been played, Amato entered the season on nearly every publication’s proverbial “hot seat.‿ Many named him, Miami’s Larry Coker and UNC’s John Bunting as three coaches in the ACC that could be out of a job come January.

Well, Bunting has “resigned‿ and Coker is counting down the days until his ultimate firing. That leaves Amato, whose job security is the only one still unknown.

The numbers, among many things, certainly warrant his firing.

The Wolfpack enter Saturday’s noon game at Clemson with a 3-6 record overall and a 2-4 record in the ACC.

The team’s bad loses are to Akron, ranked 88th in the Sagarin ratings, Virginia (79th) and Southern Miss (65th). It also struggled to beat I-AA Appalachian State (62). The Mountaineers are just one thousandth of a point behind N.C. State in the Sagarin ratings.

And had it not been for some questionable coaching on Boston College’s part and a Hail Mary pass in the final seconds against the Eagles, the Wolfpack would already be unable to become bowl eligible.

If it’s accomplished, it will be the second straight season the Wolfpack have won just six regular season games. They will also get to play in another substandard bowl.

According to Amato, that would be the finishing touches of a “successful season.‿ “You don’t go to a bowl unless you’ve had a successful season, period,‿ he said. “It’s a reward for everybody: the university, the fans, the players.‿

But maybe, just maybe, Amato shouldn’t be blamed for the current status of the program. After all, Chuck is Chuck. With him, what you see is what you get, which is, at best, an average coach who, a lot of times, appears to have lost touch with reality.

Maybe the blame for the state of N.C. State football should fall squarely on the shoulders of athletics director Lee Fowler, who said in a report this week that Amato, who has three more years left on his contract, would be evaluated at the end of the year and that an extension on Amato’s contract will be considered by the school’s board of trustees in April.

Fowler also said that he had not spoken with chancellor James Oblinger about Amato’s future or job performance.

That is a problem. If the administration has its head in the sand, why should they expect better of their employees. Monkey see, monkey do.

It is Fowler that has shown over the last few years that he has the intestinal fortitude and backbone of a jellyfish.

When former basketball coach Herb Sendek was going through the same thing during the last four or so years at the school, Fowler just stood in the corner, afraid to pull the trigger or make a powerful stand.

Sendek’s situation is almost a mirror image to Amato’s. Sendek, like Amato, had half the alumni supporting him, while the other half wanted him gone. Also, Amato, like Sendek, can’t beat rival North Carolina.

Had Sendek not done Fowler and the university a favor by opting to leave for Arizona State, he’d still be there, just like Amato is.

The big difference with Amato is the odds of him letting Fowler off the hook and resigning are very slim. He’s not going anywhere. And, quite frankly, who can blame him? Why not stay at a place that dishes out a fat paycheck and has bosses that couldn’t care much less about results? It’s a dream come true.

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18 Responses to CUTigers Paints Perfect Pack Picture

  1. gopack968 11/11/2006 at 1:13 PM #

    Great example-supported analysis. If Amato does not win two of these last three games – and one of them had better be Carolina – how can Fowler possibly explain keeping him?
    And since I am watching the game as it starts… how did Trestman need a timeout to figure out the third play of the game? This time his play worked, but how many momentum-killing timeouts does this fool get?

  2. beowolf 11/11/2006 at 1:13 PM #

    A quibble: Does Amato actually have “HALF” the fanbase supporting him?

    I’m not trying to be incendiary with that question, and I ask it as someone who was of the belief before the season started that Amato was going to get the job done, that he had worked the post-Rivers kinks out (penalties, turnovers, turnover margin, anemic offense). I also thought this was going to be a tough season, and that my expectation was just that the team would qualify for a bowl.

    I certainly didn’t expect the ACC to be so weak this season.

    But my biggest concern pre-season was that we’d just have a barely bowl-eligible season and that the Herb Disciples would push for Amato’s job Just ‘Cuz. I thought we’d need to keep him for recruiting, because we’d turned the corner on recruiting after last year’s NFL draft.

    However, UNC’s mid-season firing of Bunting (honestly, can you IMAGINE the press if we fired a coach mid-season? “CRUEL NC STATE: SPORTS WAG THE DOG IN RALEIGH” etc.) and obvious upgrading has changed the landscape — which was already really, really bad. Akron, So. Miss, Virginia? … ECU (looks like a automatic L)? … and likely, given the terrible road performances turned in so far this year … UN-firedthefriggingterriblecoach-C?

    Now my biggest concern is we’re going to do nothing, continue to watch Wake Forest, ECU, UNC and even Appalachian State field better-performing teams despite “great” recruiting in Raleigh.

  3. 1.21 Jigawatts 11/11/2006 at 1:20 PM #

    Nothing more can be said. The CUTiger article is dead on, SFN’s articles have been dead on.

    What else can you do? As it’s been pointed out many, many, many, Many times, it all starts at the top. Without ANY leadership and total lack of direction from the top, ALL programs will flounder helplessly unless they have a strong head coach to overcome it. Where the leader goes, so goes the team(s).

  4. tractor57 11/11/2006 at 1:49 PM #

    My opinion, as if that matters much, is that like Sendeck in BB Amato has done about what he will. I really like Chuck – the emotion and the over the top antics included and he has done miuch for the football program but I think the time has come (even if he beats JTB this year).

  5. tractor57 11/11/2006 at 2:25 PM #

    Once again the Lincoln Financial TV “personalities” prove they are idiots.
    The only reason I watch is State is playing (and if I had cable rather than satellite I would listen to the Wolfpack network).
    Not good at any speed – even at replay.

  6. wufpaxno1 11/11/2006 at 2:42 PM #

    The Definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. What I just witnessed was insane! 5 shots at the end zone from the four and four of them where straight up the gut with the exact same results every time.

    I have defended Amato for years, but I can not watch this mess anymore. I just do not think that the man is very bright, a great salesman, but not very bright.

    Blame Trestman if you like, but the real problem here is that our head coach is a Whimp! I don’t mean that in a physical sense, but the discipline and turn over problems are a direct result of a coach who is more concerned with being his players buddy then being their mentor.

    What I heard happened after the Virginia game inside the locker room was a coach consoling his players and trying to lift their spirits by telling them that everything would be all right and that they still could turn things around, what should have happened was a full scale blow up.

    What I saw happen on the sidelines after Anthony Hill shoved a Georgia Tech player following a bad play by Hill was a coach afraid that he would upset his player if he admonished him and instead he consoled him and patting him on the butt when he should have been in his grill, or better yet he should have had Anthony’s position coach get in his grill.

    These are young men, if they can not take a tongue lashing and accept discipline how will they ever expect to be winners on the playing field and in life. They do not need to be babied, they need to be developed into men. Our young men in the armed forces have all been through boot camp and understand and respect the value of strong discipline so don’t tell me that the athletes on this team can not stand to endure the same.

    Amato is not Chuck the Chest; he has become Chuck the Charmin man because he is way to soft. If he does not get it together he will become Chuck the Chump!

  7. packpigskinfan23 11/11/2006 at 3:08 PM #

    well well well… this article is RIGHT ON!!!

    We are back in the game baby!!!!

  8. drhammondo 11/11/2006 at 3:37 PM #

    I agree wholeheartedly with this article (with w/ wufpaxno’s comments).

    What I am afraid of now is what has happened to Duke and UNC. Where Roof beat GA Tech and got the job officially and ran the program even further into the ground. And where Bunting beat Miami and got a few extra years to fall short of expectations.

    If we do not reassess our coaching situation after this season, we will HAVE to have 8 victories next season (as we’ve been promised with a lot of “young team” and “recruiting is awfully good” comments)!

  9. cpwolfpackfan 11/11/2006 at 3:50 PM #

    I have question a little off subject, but noone can seem to give me a answer. Does anyone know anything about tracy smith? He is supose to announce monday at 2 where he is going. Most of the time this web site is buzzing with info, but it has been pretty quite. He and hickson could be a real load down low

  10. cpwolfpackfan 11/11/2006 at 4:06 PM #

    we are terrible. For the love of god I hope we loose the rest of our games so we can get a new coach. Please let this nightmare end. ECU is going to beat the hell out of us

  11. drhammondo 11/11/2006 at 4:13 PM #

    Once again dropped passes, turnovers, and poor play-calling killed us. The only thing missing off this list today is penalties (and there should have been a few personal fouls called on our team that we were LUCKY to avoid).

    On a discipline note–shouldn’t Anthony Hill have learned his lesson after killing a drive with a stupid penalty last week? EVERY time there was a small altercation after the play this week–at least while we were on offense–you could see hiim in the back of the frame running to where the problem was. Chuck cannot allow our players to continue being such hotheads.

    SOMEHOW–a change has to be made. But, as the article above explains, the administration will continue to do nothing.

  12. blpack 11/12/2006 at 11:00 PM #

    To read an article that says so much truth about our football and athletics program in general, is so sad. We are a laughing stock and if folks can’t see that then look at the our ACC record. Look at Chuck’s ACC record these 7 seasons. Pitiful. Deja vu. We need a change at head coach. Not because of what is going on elsewhere, but because we need to do it. We also have got to get someone as AD who holds coaches to a higher standard.

  13. justaguy 11/13/2006 at 7:59 AM #

    “Sendek’s situation is almost a mirror image to Amato’s. Sendek, like Amato, had half the alumni supporting him, while the other half wanted him gone.”

    I’ll echo what Beowulf said, where is the ‘support’ half? Chuck has a 2-5 record in the ACC in a down year for the league. Amato is living on Phil Rivers well-deserved reputation.

  14. packbackr04 11/13/2006 at 5:08 PM #

    wow, like others have said, if outsiders can see this about the direction of our program. what is wrong with Wolpackers. why cant everyone i tailgate with see the same thing.

  15. legacyman 11/16/2006 at 10:17 AM #

    The former bball coach did not have half of the fans in support, toward the end it was more like 80-20 or 90-10 and my guess is better than that wordsmith. The bball recruiting was not improving and the program was stale and boring. The fball program is not boring…we have been in every game except for SoMiss and could have won any of them with a few better breaks. Am I happy with fball, no, but I understand it and see some good things happening. Can we continue to have losing seasons, no, but one or two is not earth-shattering. I continue to support fball and am more than happy to say that my interest and support for bball are really rising with Sid here.

  16. Graywolf1 11/16/2006 at 12:00 PM #

    Keep Chuck, get a new AD…I do not want Fowler looking for another new coach!!!

  17. Wolfpack4ever 11/17/2006 at 9:07 AM #

    wufpaxno1 Says: “The Definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. What I just witnessed was insane! 5 shots at the end zone from the four and four of them where straight up the gut with the exact same results every time.”

    (I love playing the Devil’s advocate. My arguments are not necessarily my opinion.) First Brown failed to get in on a sweep because he dogged it.
    2. How do we know the call was “up the gut?” The back may have misread a zone block and went inside instead of outside. 3. With 3 shots from the 6″ line, do you want to run a play such as a sweep that has loss potential?

    My opinion? This will get hoots and jeers but I would have had Stone sneak it 3 times for the 6.” Why? Low risk, powerful man, he is 6′-4″ and can fall 6.” What I beleive happened? Baker the play was designed to go off tackle (like the TD in second half) with the option to take it up the gut if that was there and Baker either misread or beleived he would pick up the 6″.

  18. Wolfpack4ever 11/17/2006 at 9:27 AM #

    “Maybe the blame for the state of N.C. State football should fall squarely on the shoulders of athletics director Lee Fowler, who said in a report this week that Amato, who has three more years left on his contract, would be evaluated at the end of the year and that an extension on Amato’s contract will be considered by the school’s board of trustees in April.”

    (More DA) I know it’s the right thing to do to blame everything on LF, but what are you suggesting here? That LF act outside the confines of his job? There are possible scenarios that would dictate LF do exactly as he has stated he will do: 1. His boss has instructed LF to evaluate CA at the end of the year. 2. Institutional Control (which we so conveniently ignore) may require end-of-year evaluations, may dictate the board of trustees, not only consider extensions but hiring and firing of the HC, and more possibilities but why bother. Let’s all jump on LF and create the perfect scape goat.

    I have zero problem with criticism of LF’s job performance. I do have a problem with assumptions stated as fact, false premices promoted as acutualities, defamation of character for the purposes of promoting ones agenda, etc.

    SFN treatment of LF is similar to some christian’s treatment of themelves: in the latter incidence, everything that they succeed at is God’s doing. Everything they fail at is their fault. With LF everything he succeeds at is luck, while his failures are his stupidity or character faults.

    In either case there is no possible way to win.

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