Awesome Rules Manipulation

We are on record with our objections to the ridiculous rules changes in college football this season. We have followed-up on our original entry a few times since we first ran it. (Link to more related material)

NC State and Wake Forest have both managed to take advantage of the new clock rules this season by committing penalties on offense while holding leads late in games this year (NCS vs FSU and WFU @ NCS). The penalties serve to give the team with the lead another play on the same down; so, when the clock starts when the referee places the ball on the ground a team could theoretically run the clock out without ever getting off of first down.

Smart and savy college coaches are now finding other ways to take advantage of the rule. This entry at Wizard of Odds is fascinating and highlights an AWESOME move by Wisconsin this weekend vs Penn State.

As for shortening the game, this clip is 6:06 long (worth every second, in our opinion), meaning the final 23 seconds took much longer to run under 3-2-5-e than it would have under the old rules. And a good job by analyst Paul Maguire for picking up on what Bielema was up to. Because the rules can’t be changed in the middle of the season, we can only hope other coaches do the same to hasten the repeal of 3-2-5-e in the offseason.

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42 Responses to Awesome Rules Manipulation

  1. partialqualifier 11/06/2006 at 1:09 PM #

    Redfred….

    You and I agree more often than not. What bothered me about this was that the Kick Off is such a dangerous play. If you want to pull an Grobe and false start your way to victory….fine. But when you these are three Kick Offs. Guys are running full speed slamming into each other. If you have so little confidence in your team that you have to risk injury for the sake of keeping that high-powered Penn State offense (84 yeards & 3 points) off the field for 23 seconds, then manipulating the rules should be the least of your concerns! That’s why I called it Bush League.

  2. redfred2 11/06/2006 at 1:27 PM #

    pq

    Fair enough. But the team kicking off initiates the contact. I don’t believe they were all out attack mode knowing the play was all for naught anyway.
    If they were, then that would be beyond bush.

  3. redfred2 11/06/2006 at 1:35 PM #

    After further review. You are correct.

  4. partialqualifier 11/06/2006 at 1:52 PM #

    LOL…Redfred!….”beyond bush”

    That was funny! Made my day! Thanks!

  5. Buddygreen 11/06/2006 at 2:07 PM #

    Tracking the story on Statefansnation get over there!

  6. Wolfpack4ever 11/06/2006 at 2:10 PM #

    redfred2 Says: “Damn good coaching and using the rulebook to your own benefit! A trick like that would be a little too risque for the likes of NC State”

    But the lead article says that NC State actually did that “NC State and Wake Forest have both managed to take advantage of the new clock rules this season by committing penalties on offense while holding leads late in games this year (NCS vs FSU and WFU @ NCS). ”

    I know what you are saying but we do enough dumb shit without the untrue being applied.

  7. redfred2 11/06/2006 at 2:16 PM #

    4ever

    I stand corrected. But you know I’m speaking of the overall, not just one incidence.

  8. BoKnowsNCS71 11/06/2006 at 2:21 PM #

    I can’t beleive that they would say NC State abused the clock rules. The number of times we’ve had the lead at the end of the game has probably been few and the ghost of Derek Morris still haunts our o-line into stupid penalties. lol

  9. redfred2 11/06/2006 at 2:58 PM #

    ^lol

  10. sholtzma 11/06/2006 at 5:22 PM #

    So, I’m confused. Unconfuse me, please. Would it help if the team against which the penalty is committed always had the right to decline the penalty?

  11. redfred2 11/06/2006 at 5:37 PM #

    ^I would think. But if the kicking team can get a ten yard + headstart on the ball, then I’d say most receiving teams would automatically be pinned back deep. At best, the ball goes into the end zone and starting on the twenty.

  12. Mike 11/06/2006 at 5:53 PM #

    Speaking of kicks at the end of games…………let me think here. We have Blackmon who has already returned a KO for TD in the game, and has returned punts for TD’s as well. We have only a short amount of time left so we put 11 in to tryand block a punt. What are the chances? One more man will not make a big difference in blocking the punt.

    Put one guy back to fair catch the punt but dont rush 11!!!! Punter kicks the ball, clock rolls as long as the ball rolls. And with no one to stop it from rolling, it rolls all the way to the 7 yard line (or whatever it was) and leaves 7 seconds left. Instead of a couple plays (20 seconds) from about the 35, we have one play from our own 7. Brilliant.

  13. Mike 11/06/2006 at 6:10 PM #

    Receiving team can decline the penalty, but the time still runs off the clock. And with speedy defenders, they are on top the runner when he catches the ball, negating chance for long returns. Great ploy though! Also, remember the game/half cannot end on a penalty.

  14. choppack1 11/06/2006 at 9:48 PM #

    Mike – my thoughts exactly on Blackmon…

  15. 66pack 11/07/2006 at 8:28 AM #

    amato states that we have a young team but will not use that as an excuse for losing.he missed is true calling for only a politician and amato could say that with a straight face.

  16. legacyman 11/07/2006 at 9:21 AM #

    Using the rules is what coaches do; otherwise, why have the rules.

    I recall a Peach Bowl game against VPI? with Bill Dooley as coach. VPI needed a field goal to win the game at the end but they had no timeouts left. In order to stop the clock, Dooley had one of his players fake an injury which stopped the game clock and allowed the field goal team to rush on the field and get set to win the game…which they did. Totally legal but unethical as crap.

    Now if the officials wanted to call a fair game then they would have sent the kicking team back to the sidelines and then let them try to setup a play with about one or two seconds left. They did not and we got robbed by the rules.

  17. redfred2 11/07/2006 at 12:49 PM #

    Having your kids jumping offsides, twice in a row, that’s coaching. Sometimes it’s the smartest thing you could do, other times…

    Just different coaching philosophies, that’s all it is.

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