No Contract For Neinas? Say It Ain’t So, “Coach”

I may be overreacting, but a comment reported in today’s News & Observer causes some real concern about the coaching search.

NC State Athletic Director Lee Fowler, who stumblebummed through the Sidney Lowe hiring some months back, told the newspaper that, “[h]e has talked with Chuck Neinas, a Colorado-based headhunter who helped North Carolina hire Butch Davis, about the search but said there was no contract with Neinas.”

Now, while this is not specifically contrary to Fowler’s previous announcement that NC State would use a “search firm” for the hire, it seems odd, to say the least, that one would employ a search firm without a contract for that firm’s work.

Odder still is the recent report from the Charlotte Observer on the matter, which suggests a more concrete role for Nienas in the search:

Unlike the school’s basketball search, which athletics director Lee Fowler conducted on his own, N.C. State will use a consultant. Chuck Neinas of Neinas Sports Services in Colorado, who helped North Carolina hire Davis, will help Fowler gauge the interest of coaches and negotiate.

Perhaps, as a lawyer, I am hung up on the term “contract.” But let’s face it: most fans anticipated (and expected) that Fowler would not take the lead in this search given the university’s public humiliation the last time Fowler tried to hire a major coach. And in the Lowe case “Coach” Fowler was dealing with a sport he’d actually played and coached.

A scenario where Neinas merely acts as a sounding board for Fowler suggests a far more significant decision-making role for “Coach” than I am comfortable with. Simply put, there is nothing about Fowler’s work last time around – nor, in fact, in general – that makes one feel warm and cozy at the thought of him calling the shots for such an important hire.

And I’m not alone in that opinion. Even discounting the “lunatic fringe” (translation: loyal fans and alumni) members who openly concur that the prospect of Fowler running this search gives them the willies, consider today’s comment from, of all sources, Al Myatt of Bonesville.com:

Given the spectacle of N.C. State’s recent venture in hiring a basketball coach, Wolfpack athletic director Lee Fowler might do well to put Neinas on his speed dial as a successor to Chuck Amato is sought. Had that phone call been made after Herb Sendek left for Arizona State, the Pack would have been saved the suspense and agony of missing on high profile types such as John Calipari of Memphis and Rick Barnes of Texas.

Myatt also noted with approval how UNC’s Dick Baddour learned his lesson after the Beamer and Roy Williams fiascos – resulting in the Butch Davis home run. In contrast, there’s more than a whiff of evidence that Fowler still doesn’t get it; the public rejection of NC State feelers by god-candidate Bill Cowher has a depressingly familiar similarity to the Barnes turndown earlier in the year.

And of course, “Coach” being “Coach,” Fowler just took time out to blather to The Technician that other than finding a new football coach, it’s those dratted Internet fans that are – are you ready for this? – the biggest challenge for NC State athletics:

But other than that, the biggest challenge? It’s probably the message boards on the Internet. There is so much negative stuff coming off the boards, and I think that drives the newspapers. Then the papers are constantly chasing stuff that’s being talked about on the Internet. But I think that’s the biggest challenge facing all ADs.

There are so many people on the Internet, and you never know who they are. You don’t know if they are affiliated with N.C. State in any way.

Listen up, “Coach,” and listen well: I’m “affiliated” with NC State through the degree that hangs on my wall, among other items – an affiliation which, I note in passing, you lack. And based solely on your past performance, I don’t believe you are the best person to take the lead on this coaching search.

One cascade of national humiliation is quite enough, thank you.

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189 Responses to No Contract For Neinas? Say It Ain’t So, “Coach”

  1. bTHEredterror 12/01/2006 at 1:42 AM #

    People change, but my Moms went t oHigh School with him (Walter Williams) and she recalls Jim Donnan as a great guy and has hoped for years that he would end up being State’s head coach (she also secretly hopes that Thurl will end up as our head coach, too). I felt like Donnan made a good early run and turned Georgia around with Ray Goff’s guys, and got axed after two consecutive 8 win seasons and Richt inherited the fruit. He’d also get us positive press on ESPN as he is currently employed there, although Dykes would say (all Amato did was beat Florida State and Notre Dame, and win five pre-christmas bowl games). His offenses were vanilla to the best of my memory, and there were some off field incidents with his players. But there was at least one year where his players had a 75% graduation rate. Also an interesting blurb right beneath that story of Donnan dissing the Holes, not once but twice!! On the humble, that sounds like a decent candidate to me, and with a good uppercut to the gut of the hated to go with him.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/news/2000/11/22/sec_insider/.

  2. bTHEredterror 12/01/2006 at 1:45 AM #
  3. bTHEredterror 12/01/2006 at 1:47 AM #

    ok.

  4. bTHEredterror 12/01/2006 at 1:51 AM #

    My sincerest apologies SFN. Spamming is not intended.

    Reprinted articles from CNNSI circa 2000:

    Making the grade
    The SEC has taken its share of abuse over the years for not graduating enough football players.

    But the latest NCAA graduation rates offered an interesting revelation.

    Of the teams who finished in the final Associated Press Top 25 last season, SEC teams accounted for five of the seven highest graduation rates.

    Mississippi was first (79%), Georgia third (75%), Mississippi State fourth (71%), Tennessee fifth (65%) and Alabama tied for seventh (56%).

    The graduation rates released earlier this week by the NCAA were based on the 1993 recruiting classes.

    All but four of the SEC schools were at least 50% or higher. The national average for Division I football programs was 48%.

    The ones finishing below the national average were Auburn (47%), Kentucky (37%), LSU (36%) and Arkansas (5%).

    And…

    Donnan staying

    Even before Carl Torbush was officially fired this Monday as North Carolina’s head coach, Jim Donnan’s name was making the rounds in the Carolinas as a possible replacement.

    The Georgia coach insists he’s not going anywhere.

    “I’m very happy at Georgia,” Donnan told reporters at his weekly news conference Tuesday. “I have no interest in going anywhere else. I don’t know how much more truthful I can be. I expect to be here at Georgia as long as they’ll have me, and hopefully that will be a long time.”

    Donnan has caught some heat this season for the Bulldogs’ inability to win the Eastern Division, although they did end their drought against Tennessee.

    North Carolina has come after Donnan before. A Burlington, N.C., native, Donnan turned down a $1 million offer from the Tar Heels when Mack Brown left for Texas in 1997.

  5. blpack 12/01/2006 at 7:20 AM #

    Fowler wanted to use the folks who hired him to do our search. What a joke. He still doesn’t get it and now has wasted 5 days when we should have been making headway towards hiring the next head coach. Sounds like sabotage to me. He should be on his way out.

  6. NeverGiveUp 12/01/2006 at 7:51 AM #

    Is it possible that LF had a list of 2? Bill Cowher and PJ.
    He contacted search firm and said, we have 2 guys who will get offers, if they say no; we need you to step in. Cowher said no. PJ said yes. No need for the search firm. Just need to wait until after the Army-Navy game.

    I’m not saying it’s a good choice, just floating the possibility.

    I’d actually be angry. The “search” would have essentially been from a list of one. (I don’t believe BC was ever more than a 1% chance).

  7. highonlowe 12/01/2006 at 8:33 AM #

    ^ IMO, this is probably what happened if left to LF. Although, supposedly he’s been detacted from the search so I guess we won’t know till the end.

  8. GoldenChain 12/01/2006 at 2:39 PM #

    The “Mac Attack” was giving a report that Sheridan’s name had come up.
    He’s 65 and has been out of football for 14 years.
    I loved him but now isn’t the time for a comeback.

  9. old13 12/01/2006 at 3:34 PM #

    Interesting information here: http://www.xanga.com/NCStatefootball

  10. cpwolfpackfan 12/01/2006 at 5:15 PM #

    i just saw that we are on jai lucas list of schools, he is the #7 point gard in next years class, 4 star player, If sid can land him, oh my god!!!! not getting my hopes up, but to even be in the talk at this point is outstanding. considering sid started 1 year behind other schools. Hey we got hickson, and smith, maybe we can land this kid and will have a good pg

  11. wallacepark 12/01/2006 at 8:22 PM #

    Is this true that we are close to a deal with Paul Johnson? I would be very happy if this is true ; )

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