No Contract For Neinas? Say It Ain’t So, “Coach”

I may be overreacting, but a comment reported in today’s News & Observer causes some real concern about the coaching search.

NC State Athletic Director Lee Fowler, who stumblebummed through the Sidney Lowe hiring some months back, told the newspaper that, “[h]e has talked with Chuck Neinas, a Colorado-based headhunter who helped North Carolina hire Butch Davis, about the search but said there was no contract with Neinas.”

Now, while this is not specifically contrary to Fowler’s previous announcement that NC State would use a “search firm” for the hire, it seems odd, to say the least, that one would employ a search firm without a contract for that firm’s work.

Odder still is the recent report from the Charlotte Observer on the matter, which suggests a more concrete role for Nienas in the search:

Unlike the school’s basketball search, which athletics director Lee Fowler conducted on his own, N.C. State will use a consultant. Chuck Neinas of Neinas Sports Services in Colorado, who helped North Carolina hire Davis, will help Fowler gauge the interest of coaches and negotiate.

Perhaps, as a lawyer, I am hung up on the term “contract.” But let’s face it: most fans anticipated (and expected) that Fowler would not take the lead in this search given the university’s public humiliation the last time Fowler tried to hire a major coach. And in the Lowe case “Coach” Fowler was dealing with a sport he’d actually played and coached.

A scenario where Neinas merely acts as a sounding board for Fowler suggests a far more significant decision-making role for “Coach” than I am comfortable with. Simply put, there is nothing about Fowler’s work last time around – nor, in fact, in general – that makes one feel warm and cozy at the thought of him calling the shots for such an important hire.

And I’m not alone in that opinion. Even discounting the “lunatic fringe” (translation: loyal fans and alumni) members who openly concur that the prospect of Fowler running this search gives them the willies, consider today’s comment from, of all sources, Al Myatt of Bonesville.com:

Given the spectacle of N.C. State’s recent venture in hiring a basketball coach, Wolfpack athletic director Lee Fowler might do well to put Neinas on his speed dial as a successor to Chuck Amato is sought. Had that phone call been made after Herb Sendek left for Arizona State, the Pack would have been saved the suspense and agony of missing on high profile types such as John Calipari of Memphis and Rick Barnes of Texas.

Myatt also noted with approval how UNC’s Dick Baddour learned his lesson after the Beamer and Roy Williams fiascos – resulting in the Butch Davis home run. In contrast, there’s more than a whiff of evidence that Fowler still doesn’t get it; the public rejection of NC State feelers by god-candidate Bill Cowher has a depressingly familiar similarity to the Barnes turndown earlier in the year.

And of course, “Coach” being “Coach,” Fowler just took time out to blather to The Technician that other than finding a new football coach, it’s those dratted Internet fans that are – are you ready for this? – the biggest challenge for NC State athletics:

But other than that, the biggest challenge? It’s probably the message boards on the Internet. There is so much negative stuff coming off the boards, and I think that drives the newspapers. Then the papers are constantly chasing stuff that’s being talked about on the Internet. But I think that’s the biggest challenge facing all ADs.

There are so many people on the Internet, and you never know who they are. You don’t know if they are affiliated with N.C. State in any way.

Listen up, “Coach,” and listen well: I’m “affiliated” with NC State through the degree that hangs on my wall, among other items – an affiliation which, I note in passing, you lack. And based solely on your past performance, I don’t believe you are the best person to take the lead on this coaching search.

One cascade of national humiliation is quite enough, thank you.

General

189 Responses to No Contract For Neinas? Say It Ain’t So, “Coach”

  1. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 4:29 PM #

    o’brien looks good on paper and whether or not bc, vt, miami or even fsu should be in the acc is a debate i would gladly take up as a fan of the traditional basketball first acc. but unless o’brien initiates conversation it is beyond horrible public relations for ncsu to actively pursue another ACC school’s head coach.

  2. Redblogger 11/30/2006 at 4:33 PM #

    When the ACC was made up of 7 or 8 teams I would agree that we should avoid poaching other schools coaches. But now that the league is large enough, I don’t think it should be the taboo that it once was.

  3. GAWolf 11/30/2006 at 4:36 PM #

    I keep seeing all these $ figures getting thrown around and I damn sure screwed the pooch going to law school. I should have just taken a couple classes in bossing teenage boys around at the local CC and headed out to get rich as hell.

    The truth of the matter is our society puts way too much money into sports. Being that sports were originally just a replacement in society for war… I guess I’ll take the sports.

  4. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 4:37 PM #

    if it is considered the way it was several years ago or not its still taboo and after the debacle of a bball search, thank God for sid lowe and monte towe, ncsu can ill afford the media scrutiny.

  5. Cardiff Giant 11/30/2006 at 4:38 PM #

    GAWolf, that is no lie.

  6. buttPACKer 11/30/2006 at 4:43 PM #

    IF BC was looking to sack him anyway, I don’t see a problem. . .

  7. highonlowe 11/30/2006 at 4:51 PM #

    Things get worse the Charlotte Observe editoral today blasts the UNC BOG and Mr. Bowles for violating its own rules to hire Butch Davis and Roy Williams in the past. Amazing the timing of this article comes out AFTER Chapel Hill got what it wanted and has its coaches in place.
    Do you have a link? I don’t see this anywhere on charlotte.com

  8. 4PackinMB 11/30/2006 at 4:53 PM #

    Jim Tatum, Md and UNX…..Dolley, Wake and UNX…..its been done before…why not TOB, BC and NCSU?

  9. 98st8 11/30/2006 at 4:58 PM #

    Flight into Kinston from Baton Rouge

  10. 98st8 11/30/2006 at 4:59 PM #

    Flight aware… here we go again

  11. cpwolfpackfan 11/30/2006 at 5:03 PM #

    don’t want it to go as far as the bb coaching search went with tracking planes, but you know what they say, where there is smoke there is fire, just would like some info

  12. jbwbubba 11/30/2006 at 5:04 PM #

    Yes, let the plane tracking begin. LOL.

    Its jimbo time, everybody jimbo.

    Want new rumors, how about Chow going from the Titans and be OC at alabama with Jimbo as head coach of the tide. Also, that Pete Carroll goes to the Cardinals in Arizona and Chow goes back to USC. Also big foot is schedule to coach Miami with the Loch Ness Monster as the OC

  13. 98st8 11/30/2006 at 5:06 PM #

    This is my thing, which noone has discussed… what if Steve Spurrier accepts down in Alabama??? Now we are competing with South Carolina for a head coach

  14. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 5:06 PM #

    thank you jbwbubba. even if you found the plane to belong to a wolfpack club donor it wouldn’t mean a whole lot until you said for FACT that jimbo is on it and a car is meeting him to go straight to the murphy center.

  15. old13 11/30/2006 at 5:06 PM #

    ^Maybe we could get Nessy as the DC!

  16. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 5:07 PM #

    spurrier is going nowhere, why should he take the ‘bama job? better golf courses in sc and an hour or so from augusta. ok the golf course thing is a half joke but spurrier has flat out shot down those rumors and is in negotiations for more money at USC

  17. 98st8 11/30/2006 at 5:10 PM #

    there is speculation that Spurrier is entertaining the offer from Al

  18. Running Wolf 11/30/2006 at 5:15 PM #

    If BC is staying at the Steelers then Spurier is staying at USC…they have both made it clear in the Press.

  19. WestCoast 11/30/2006 at 5:25 PM #

    skywalkerdt…you are correct.

    Spurrier is staying in Columbia. Bottom line, his wife loves it there and the way the community has welcomed them. You know what they say, happy wife happy life.

  20. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 5:31 PM #

    i’m a usc grad, don’t keep as in touch with the gamecocks as the pack but i know the situation there. everyone loves the way he’s done things since he came to columbia and until that changes he will be given no reason to look elsewhere

  21. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 5:35 PM #

    if you read the article previously linked in this blog usc offered him more money than he now makes when he came so he could pay better assistants. to me that says commitment to win at that university.

  22. WestCoast 11/30/2006 at 5:36 PM #

    Likewise, USC ’98. My wife doesn’t understand that I went to USC and have State season tickets. LF and gang will get the right guy in there. And even if we don’t all agree on the hire, when we’re 8-4 next year or better, we’ll all be on the same page.

  23. Woof Wolf 11/30/2006 at 5:37 PM #

    Damn, I didn’t know Spurrier had a wife. They didn’t have any kids, did they?

  24. skywalkerdt 11/30/2006 at 5:39 PM #

    westcoast, glad to hear i’m not the only one! ncsu family, call me the blacksheep, usc bs ’02 and ms ’05. just good to hear people that know the def of usc.

  25. RAWFS 11/30/2006 at 5:39 PM #

    MisterO

    Here’s an interesting link to one of the major BC bloggers and an article he wrote about Tom O’Brien.

    http://atleagle.blogspot.com/2006/11/stuck-in-rut-and-i-am-open-to.html

    Personally, I think that he is unrealistic about BC’s place in the world of college football. They will never, ever be a Florida, or a Virginia Tech. Not even a Notre Dame. The school is too small, in a media market that hardly knows they exist and in with far too small an alumni base to support a “big time” program at the top echelon.

    That said, I think TOB is another one from the service academies that believes in discipline and consistency of effort…plus getting a degree while a student athlete.

    ACC or no ACC, it’s fairly well known that TOB is sniffing other jobs. I’d call him were it up to me.

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