More Lowe (or is it “Lower”?)

SFN has been on fire the last couple of days so I encourage you to please spend some time surfing through the recent entries on the blog.

When I worked on this piece with some of the other authors yesterday I couldn’t get over my joy of reading what Andy Katz wrote in his INsider entry on ESPN. He gave more compliments to Coach Lowe than just the teaser that SFN ran:

But nothing Michigan did matched the hustle and intensity of NC State. For those who weren’t sure how Lowe would coach, you should know this: His players absolutely love him and would run through a brick wall for him.

In fact, (other than Jimmy Dykes) it seems that most of the media is jumping on the Sidney Lowe bandwagon quicker than we can find all of their recent quotes and criticism of NC State’s program and hiring of Lowe.

I was listening to Mark Packer’s show in Charlotte yesterday and was very pleased to hear the compliments that he was laying on Lowe on NC State. Packer also astutely mentioned some of Lowe’s early recruiting success that seemed to slip the mind of ESPN’s crew the other night. (I almost get the feeling that Packer has been pulling for State to become relevant again for years. I hope that we can oblige in the next couple of years)

Most interestingly, Packer noticed what everyone in the RBC knew (and many were verbalizing) – Wolfpackers looked and sounded like they were having a BLAST!!! and that he hasn’t seen this kind of excitement in a long time.

He couldn’t be more correct. I haven’t spoken with a friend or fan who hasn’t made some kind of comment about how much ‘fun’ they have watching this team. I met a friend for a beer after the game on Monday night and the first thing that he innocently said was, “That was a lot of fun tonight!” Gee. Fun. How dare us all want to enjoy ourselves for the thousands of dollars we shell out in lifetime rights, Wolfpack Club dues, and season tickets!!!

Check out some of the other finds today:

* Whomever Ken Medlin is…he says that he is Sold on Sidney Lowe.

If I’d told any of you that Engin Atsur would miss nearly the entire game against Michigan, and the Pack would still win… would you have believed it? Lowe has his team motivated. They believe in the “team concept,” but they don’t believe their team depth is too thin. Beating a quality team — without Atsur — is proof positive.

And how about Lowe’s in-game coaching? He’s animated. He’s intense. And his first-half timeouts — which are becoming a game-by-game event — always seem to spark his team at the right time.

* From 850TheBuzz, “you’ve got to give Sidney Lowe and company high marks for their first significant test of the season.”

A little more
I saw a quote on an NC State message board that was related to this very topic on which I wanted to take the opportunity to comment.

Most of the annoying media comments are the result of talking points generated by the herd mentality of lazy sportswriters who aren’t even particularly interested in NC State

I don’t disagree with the comments. But, I have to sincerely ask – who is responsible for leading the media herd to their conclusions and sparking all of this criticism in recent years? As we know…it isn’t like the media can really think for themselves. If they could there would be no jobs for public relations professionals and ‘Spin Doctors”.

If Lee Fowler wouldn’t have spent his last five years launching a one-man crusade to prove to the world that Herb Sendek was the best basketball coach since John Wooden (and therefore Fowler made a wonderful decision by keeping Sendek after the dreadful 5th year) then perhaps the media wouldn’t have many of these thoughts or feel so entitled to say be so negative about NC State.

Arizona State just fired a football coach who has gone to 3 or 4 consecutive bowls (including this year). You can run down a list of hundreds of football and basketball coaches who get removed after generating SIGNIFICANTLY more success than NC State’s coaches. Do you think that you are going to see and hear hundreds of criticisms of all of these programs for months to come?

Of course not!! ecause other Athletics Directors don’t spend half a decade publicly degrading large portions of their fan base with labels like “crazy” and “lunatic fringe”.

Other ADs issue statements (and TRULY BELIEVE) like this classic statement from Nebraska and or like this one from Arizona State’s AD earlier this week:

“The next person that I will be hiring won’t be shy about this,” Love said. “They’ll clearly understand the goals. The winner of the Pac-10 Conference plays in the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl is the goal for Sun Devil football. No one should approach me about this job if they don’t understand that and they don’t understand what’s going on at Arizona State University, because it’s pretty powerful stuff.”

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105 Responses to More Lowe (or is it “Lower”?)

  1. Rochester 11/29/2006 at 5:16 PM #

    I’m not sure that being realistic about Brackman looking out for his best future interests is pessimistic. I am extremely optimistic about our basketball team. I love what Sid has done and I love the effort the kids are giving him (and us). I just respect Brackman’s decision.

    If when you leave the house each day you engage in as much physical activity and body banging as your average college basketball player, you might be putting yourself at risk, but I wouldn’t worry about it too much if I were you.

  2. PackGirl 11/29/2006 at 5:21 PM #

    ^^^Or he could get shot in the legs on his way home from a nightclub at 2 AM.

    There are too many unknowns to say that it is crystal clear that dropping basketball was the only way to go. How well will Brackman play baseball without the benefit of the conditioning he gets playing basketball? Too early to tell.

  3. redfred2 11/29/2006 at 6:12 PM #

    Rodchester

    Circumstances beyond baseball potential dictated Brackman’s decision.

    If Brackman had gotten to play in a system where he had averaged around 20 points along with about 9 rebounds per game, while still lighting it up on the mound, and hadn’t ever mentioned giving up basketball, would you and others still be preaching that he should give one sport of them up?

    I hardly think so.

  4. redfred2 11/29/2006 at 6:48 PM #

    I should have said advocating there, no one is preaching except me. Too strong a word, sorry.

  5. Woof Wolf 11/29/2006 at 7:24 PM #

    rf2

    You are starting to go Bobby Knight on us. Give the kid a break. All of us at points in our life have to make decisions on what is best for us. Brackman did it and we need to respect his decision. He doesn’t owe us anything. Kids leave after one or two years to go to the NBA all time. He’s still on the basketball scholly because we don’t have anyone else to give it to and it helps the baseball team.

    You are probably right that he didn’t get a chance to fully develope and display his basketball skills in the other system. But the truth is he lost last spring’s basball season because of what was probably a basketball injury. Then when he was healthy he went to Cape Cod and had a great summer. There are smart baseball people who are telling him that if he has a great spring he could be the number one pick in the draft.

    Would you risk that because some old people wanted to watch you play basketball?

  6. Rochester 11/29/2006 at 7:25 PM #

    If Brackman’s picked No. 1 overall in the baseball draft–and he has a legitimate shot at that–he could be in line for a $5 million contract. He did not get a chance to show what he could do last spring. He HAS to show it this spring. Playing basketball this season is too great a risk–at least in his eyes, and his decision is the one that counts.

    Believe me, I’d love if he came out for basketball. All I’m saying is I respect his decision to focus on the sport that he feels will be his future calling. Just as I respect Cedric Simmons’s decision to take the money in the NBA draft last year, even though he could have benefited from another year of college.

  7. PackGirl 11/29/2006 at 7:36 PM #

    On another note….

    9 pm: Ohio State vs Tarholes

    Go buckeyes!

  8. redfred2 11/29/2006 at 8:28 PM #

    Woof, you are way off on implying that I think Brackman owes us anything, no matter what sport his scholarship is in. If something I typed sounded that way, it wasn’t meant to be. The only reason I bring the basketball scholarship up is because that’s the sport our coaches, along with many others, recruited him to play on a collegiate level. He is good, and much better than he was ever allowed to show before.

    I’m not that old, but I’m from the old school where “amateur” athletes competed and played sports for the love of the sport, and their university. Their every move wasn’t based, next year, or on how much money they were going to make later on in the professional ranks. Oh well, it seems that going to college is just a jumping off spot for a few years before they go to the league, the bigs, or whatever.

    It was soooo much better then, but I’ll admit it, I am a dinosaur.

  9. Woof Wolf 11/29/2006 at 8:54 PM #

    I was talking about myself when I said “old.” I’d like to see him play basketball too.

    When I got out of school one could make more money than the average pro athlete doing a lot of things. But that is no longer true. I’ve made some money in my life (and spent most of it) but nothing close to to what a middle reliever in the major leagues makes today. The really good athletes are making enough to guarantee lifetime security for them and their kids before they are thirty or even twenty five in some cases.

    The “good ole days” were great but it a whole new “ballgame” today.

  10. Wolfpack4ever 11/29/2006 at 9:13 PM #

    SFN says; “As we know…it isn’t like the media can really think for themselves. If they could there would be no jobs for public relations professionals and ‘Spin Doctors’.”

    And then offers an example: “If Lee Fowler wouldn’t have spent his last five years launching a one-man crusade to prove to the world that Herb Sendek was the best basketball coach since John Wooden (and therefore Fowler made a wonderful decision by keeping Sendek after the dreadful 5th year) then perhaps the media wouldn’t have many of these thoughts or feel so entitled to say be so negative about NC State.”

    We can read the herd mentality in the comments sprinkled in every thread.

  11. redfred2 11/29/2006 at 10:50 PM #

    4ever, What Jeff says is not to be denied.

    We all know you can highlight other people’s comments, and label them as this or that.

    But can you, for once, address the substance of the post with some intelligent insight into what Jeff, or anyone, is actually trying to say?

    Please, allow me, to break it all down for you.

    4ever, so you, along Lee Fowler, thought Herb Sendek was, and I guess still is, the right man for the NCSU job and that Mr Fowler has handled that situation properly during his tenure here?

    You are also saying that you are fine with the way basketball coaching search went, along with the handling, and eventual loss, of two signed and commited to NC State, recruits in the interum?

    And, you think Amato received a rawl deal, oh wait, that’s right, all of your steadfast approval of every move Amato had ever made over seven years, withered and came to screeching halt, in the short timespan of just over a week, or two ballgames.

    You also think that Lee Fowler has done an outstanding job, and that he is great for this university, and that he properly represents NC State University as well as any booster, alum, fan, could ever hope from an AD?

    Your answer must be “yes” on all accounts, or you wouldn’t still be blindly defending Fowler, just like you did Amato, until it so foolishly pointless to do so, that you were forced to finally give it up.

  12. KChill 11/29/2006 at 10:50 PM #

    The guys here who say we are selfish for thinking Brackman should come back are the same hypocrites who are for an NBA age minimum, against early NBA entry and probably were against the kid from Ohio State who tried to enter the NFL draft a few years ago after his freshman year. Are their ACL’s less valuable than baseball players? HYPOCRITES.

  13. redfred2 11/29/2006 at 11:26 PM #

    Woof,

    Please do not get me wrong, I wish he would play basketball for NC State, for the fans, and for himself, but I do not hold it against him in any way AT ALL, for not.

    That would be ignorant on anyone’s part to do so.

    But, make no mistake about it, if Brackman’s game (of basketball) had already been well established in his first two years, he would be playing right now.

    Some fans and scouts saw him playing the game of baseball, but no one, not anyone, ever saw him play the game of basketball in Raleigh.

  14. Pack Laddie 11/30/2006 at 7:47 AM #

    First, I wish Drew was playing hoops too, but it is his decision, and his decision only, to concentrate on baseball.

    A couple of things—

    1) He was recruited to play basketball AND baseball. Herb and Elliott worked together on his recruitment, and went together for his in home visit. The possibility of him eventually concentrating on one sport was discussed at the time.

    2) Any of us could get hurt at any time. The construction crane at the building site across the street from my office could topple over and crush our building today. But playing hoops certainly increases the odds of him getting hurt, moreso than going through fall baseball workouts. Witness Engin’s pulled hammy the other night. If Drew pulled a hammy in February, his baseball season could be hampered again, just as it was last year with the hip injury.

    3) Perhaps most importantly, from the day he got to NC State, he has never hidden the fact that baseball was his first love.

  15. Rick 11/30/2006 at 8:16 AM #

    Kchill,
    Tkae you name to heart and chill out.

  16. redfred2 11/30/2006 at 9:24 AM #

    Laddie

    I could have sworn that I read where Brackman really loved basketball but that he had natural talent for baseball.

    Laddie, I’m sure you know. Your #3 makes all of the difference to me.

    I give.

  17. Pack Laddie 11/30/2006 at 9:47 AM #

    Fred, I cannot find the article that Tony Haynes wrote about Drew when he first got to Raleigh, but he told Tony that baseball was his first love.

    I did find this quote, from earlier this year–

    “Brackman said playing professional baseball has been a “big dream of mine ever since I was a little kid and that dream has a chance of coming true in June. Because of that I feel that the most important thing for me is to be as prepared mentally and physically as possible for the draft.”

    Drew has a chance to live his dream. Go for it big fella.

  18. redfred2 11/30/2006 at 10:27 AM #

    I give, I give, already! I apologize for going on and on, especially to Rochester.

    Seriously though, thanks Laddie, that does make better me feel A WHOLE LOT better about what Andrew Brackman really wanted when he signed on with NCSU. I’m glad to see that he’s receiving the guidance to reach his childhood dreams at NC STATE.

  19. Wolfpack4ever 11/30/2006 at 10:45 AM #

    “Maybe with age he (HS) will learn to become a little more approachable and open to new ideas and turn around the Arizona St. program.”

    Yeah, Herb should listen to the fans, we gotta lot of good ideas. We know a whole lot more than his mentor, that dumb-assed Rick Patino. Yeah, right. And I thought Chuck had an ego problem.

  20. Rochester 11/30/2006 at 10:52 AM #

    RF2, no biggie.

    My question is, outside of Brackman, are there any great athletes on the baseball, football, track, [insert team name here] team that played hoops at a high level in high school who could come out and provide a little depth? Maybe someone who could give us another Nieman off the bench? Or are the three late walk-ons the best the university has to offer?

  21. Rick 11/30/2006 at 10:59 AM #

    “Yeah, Herb should listen to the fans, we gotta lot of good ideas. We know a whole lot more than his mentor, that dumb-assed Rick Patino. Yeah, right. And I thought Chuck had an ego problem.”

    I agree, Pitino after all paid his salary so he should definitely listen to him.

  22. redfred2 11/30/2006 at 11:13 AM #

    4ever

    Is Sendek now the one in need of your defense today?

    He’s gone. He left.

    We’re FIVE and O, and playing inspired basketball once again in Raleigh.

    So what is your point?

  23. Wolfpack4ever 11/30/2006 at 11:14 AM #

    redfred2 Says: “Please, allow me, to break it all down for you.”

    rf2, Jeff is one of the most clever and talented people I have ever encountered. So talented in fact that I can hardly see Jeff’s lips move when you speak.

  24. redfred2 11/30/2006 at 11:20 AM #

    4ever

    True, so true.

    And again, thanks for adding valid commentary and original thoughts here.

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    […] The Sporting News‘ Mike DeCourcy talks NC State basketball in his blog. You gotta love the attention! Here’s the thing: Atsur probably is out two weeks. The Pack’s next game is an early ACC game Sunday afternoon at Virginia, which features the league’s top point guard, Sean Singletary. Grant’s job will get tougher, immediately. He better be a quick study. […]

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