ECU Paid $300k to Play NC State

In a move only endorsed by people with memories of less than 20 years – or who are general morons – NC State and East Carolina have moved kickoff for the two schools’ November 25th battle to 7pm. (Link)

^This announcement and the idiotic message board banter that has already begun related to the game got us thinking a little about the Pirates and the Pack. We are going to have a lot more commentary on the Pirates and Pack in the next 11 days, but until then we wanted to share a clarifying note related to a ‘conversation’ that we saw on a message board where a Pirate fan wouldn’t/couldn’t grasp the importance

With this in mind, we ask that you turn your attention to the article from the Clarion Ledger (quoted below) that will clear up some of the confusion for the folks out there that love to run their mouth without having a single fact to support what they wish were true.

SFN hears about fiscal responsibility from the NC State Athletics Administration all of the time. Most recently we have heard from numerous people connected to the University that Chuck Amato (AND Marc Trestman’s) jobs are 100% safe because Lee Fowler and NC State’s Administration ‘cannot’/will not pay for buyouts related to their contracts. We want to make sure that emphasize that there is a big difference between “cannot” and “will not”. Unfortunately for State fans, the Department likes to present things that they “will not” do as things that “cannot” be done.

So, can anyone explain to us how East Carolina could afford to fire their football coach and basketball coach in the same year? And, how they can afford to pay THREE different football coaches (Logan, Thompson, Holtz) simultaneously while shelling out $300k just to get a road game at NC State?

ECU to Pay $300,000 to USM to play NCSU in 2006;
USM to make nearly $1M for game at Va. Tech
By Tim Doherty
[email protected]

HUNTINGTON, W.Va. — Southern Miss’ visit to Virginia Tech next season is expected to add nearly $1 million to the Golden Eagles’ budget.

“It will be the best game, financially, that we’ve ever played on the road,” USM athletic director Richard Giannini said before Tuesday’s game here against Marshall. “It’s an opportunity that financially is a great deal for us.”

Tech announced Monday evening that it had added USM to its 2006 schedule, swapping the Golden Eagles for East Carolina. Tech will pay USM more than $600,000 as a guarantee, Giannini said about the game that is set for Sept. 16, 2006, in Blacksburg, Va.

East Carolina will pay USM an additional $300,000-plus for taking the game off the Pirates’ schedule. “It’s more (than $900,000), close to a million,” Giannini said.

The Pirates and Hokies had been scheduled to start a nine-year series next fall, but ECU had the opportunity to revive an intrastate rivalry with North Carolina State. The catch: ECU had to start the N.C. State series in 2006.

Tech told the Pirates it would delay the start of their series if ECU could find an acceptable replacement.
Giannini said he turned down a return trip from the Hokies in 2014 because the one-game deal meant a bigger payday.

“We talked about it, but it was just too far down the road,” Giannini said.

USM’s 2006 non-conference schedule will feature road games at Tech and Florida and home games with Southeastern Louisiana and North Carolina State.

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69 Responses to ECU Paid $300k to Play NC State

  1. packbackr04 11/14/2006 at 3:29 PM #

    im thinking about seeing if my mom wants to try out for our O-line next year. of course shes 6’4″ 240 lbs and runs a 4.4 forty.

  2. packbackr04 11/14/2006 at 3:35 PM #

    no dazed and confused fans out there eh? thats ok,….. i wont forget this red.

  3. BoKnowsNCS71 11/14/2006 at 4:08 PM #

    I was at the ECU victory riot game back in 1987. The only good thing about it was that we didn’t have to play them for many years afterwards. Not even the politicians could push that game.

    But time blurs memories and history is likely to repeat itself.

    George Bernard Shaw:
    We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.

    George Santayana:
    Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

  4. Joeboot 11/14/2006 at 4:09 PM #

    “have 3 kids and a mini-van”

    TomCat, I was at that game and that is a 100% accurate description of me! That is too funny. Thanks for the laugh!

  5. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 11/14/2006 at 4:46 PM #

    I was at the Peach Bowl v. ECU game in ’92. I’ve tried to block that day out but it keeps returning. Who the hell schedules an 11am kickoff on New Years Day? I don’t think I got back to my hotel until about 4am New Years Eve then to have to get up at 8 for the game. What a horrible day to watch State blow something like a 3 touchdown lead in the fourth quarter.

  6. BoKnowsNCS71 11/14/2006 at 5:08 PM #

    tct — Agree — didn’t ECU have David Garrard as QB? May ave been Blake. All I know is that it helps a team when you have an NFL caliber QB on your team. To my recall — State has only had 3: Rivers, Kramer and Gabriel. Futreu prospect might be Justin Burke but time will tell. Definitely not Evans, Stone, or Davis as NFLers. No cut on them but a QB can make up for a heck of a lot of coaching shortfalls.

  7. burnbarn 11/14/2006 at 5:12 PM #

    JB, not sure why you are so fired up about this ECU series. It was essentially mandated through back channels in the legislature for both us and holes.
    We have to play them… might as well do it rather than making a bunch of politicians that control the budget have to do it in public.

    Let’s get over the not too distance past. I don’t like this any better than you, but it’s time to forget about it. They have a very good shot at knocking us off. Maybe it will lead to some things you do want.

  8. beowolf 11/14/2006 at 5:25 PM #

    It is my understanding that Trestman has a 4 year deal, at $250 per, meaning if we were to can him now, we would owe him half a mil

    Yeah, but if you break down the annual payments on a per-score basis, there really won’t be that big of a difference between the two years:

    Two years of $250k/0 is only marginally more expensive than the last two years of $250k/diddly-squat.

  9. beowolf 11/14/2006 at 5:34 PM #

    Great, the ACC BasketSPAM has chimed in. Stay over here!

  10. BladenWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:35 PM #

    The obvious solution to playing the EZU rednecks at 7pm is to simply beat them and remove their cause for celebration…

    Is there a problem with this logic?

  11. BladenWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:37 PM #

    …or has everyone else finally realized that (with our current coaching staff) this is not an automatic win?

  12. class of 74 11/14/2006 at 5:44 PM #

    ^Akron, USM. What me worry?

  13. GAWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:45 PM #

    We will get pummeled by ECU and lose a tight one to the Heels.

  14. BladenWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:45 PM #

    ^ I hear ya class of 74

    Does anyone want to challenge my previous prognostication that a 3-9 season is not only possible, but more likely at this point?

    Where’s the euphoria (from Amato supporters) that was present after the BC and Fla St. miracles? Reality check.

    If I hear one more time from our beloved coach about “how tough we played” and how “we never gave up” (but lost anyway) then I think I’ll puke- again.

  15. Mr O 11/14/2006 at 5:48 PM #

    I am not one of the people who thinks we shouldn’t play ECU. I don’t see a problem with it. It is a fairly interesting opponent for me.

  16. BladenWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:48 PM #

    ^GAWolf

    Unfortunately, I think you’re right on target.

  17. GAWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:53 PM #

    I bet the ECU fans try to go after the goalposts win…. or… yes… lose.

  18. BladenWolf 11/14/2006 at 5:59 PM #

    As SFN pointed out, you may need a memory of more than twenty years to fully understand the NCSU-EZU rivalry… I fit that description…okay much more than twenty years of memory, but I digress.
    I recall when the EZU squad was formidable and in the top twenty in the nation AND gave us a fit most of the times we played them.
    Their fans are ass hats (my ex-wife is one that comes to mind) but should not be confused with the athletes, which kicked our asses more times than I’d like to admit. So while the fans are quite annoying, the team is altogether a different proposition and we should relish the chance to beat the living shit out of them whenever the occasion arrises and at whatever time of the day/night we can do so.

  19. PackBacker001 11/14/2006 at 6:06 PM #

    At least we won’t have to hear “and a Pirates…first down. AAAARRRRRGH” all day since it’s a home game. We will have to pur up with necks screaming “Paint it purple” though. Oh well.

  20. class of 74 11/14/2006 at 6:24 PM #

    When facing us, ECU fans do their best to mimic their mascot. They drink, they curse and they pillage goal posts. True pirates. I expect more of the same in a couple of weeks.

  21. GAWolf 11/14/2006 at 6:31 PM #

    Or the dreaded “We Believe!” chant from the Peach Bowl. I got so tired of hearing that from the big fat purple pig of a lady sitting in front of us… in the Wolfpack Club section… mind you. Terrible scene that games was.

    Here’s an idea. Why not demote Trestman to Quarterbacks coach and Wide REceivers coach and bring in another O-Coordinator to see if ANYONE (errr Logan?) can right the ship. Give him a two year deal to finish up that of the rest of the staff. If after two years no improvements… clean house.

    Makes sense to me….

  22. GAWolf 11/14/2006 at 6:32 PM #

    They don’t even have to be facing us to tear down our goalposts. Has there been no mention of the post-hurricane game where we were nice enough to loan them our stadium to play Miami and they tore down our posts and otherwise pillaged our stadium? Down with the scurvy dogs, I tell you.

    SFN: Please see some of our comments embedded as replies to other’s comments. We have most definitely mentioned the Miami game situation

  23. Clarksa 11/15/2006 at 12:15 AM #

    “In all honesty, SFN, giving ECU’s fanbase 4 hours of drinking time between the hours of 8:00 am and 12:00 noon are enough to have the stadium seriously vandalized.”

    Do you actually think the Pirate fans will be subjected to the “4 hour rule?” No, they will take up all the public parking several hours before the WPC members will be allowed to access the parking spots that cost them thousands of dollars to secure…thanks Dr O, Stafford, and company!

  24. TomCat 11/15/2006 at 12:26 AM #

    I see no goal posts coming down in this game- regardless of who wins. It’s a different deal today- ECU already is going bowling, we are not. Beating Miami in ’99 after all ECU had been through that year being stranded by the hurricanes and beating top-5 Miami on a borrowed field, was a huge feat- it earned them an ESPN ESPY for story of the year. They celebrated the huge win over the Miami hurricanes and mother nature- and the goal posts came down- no one was hurt, beaten or shot. Standard celebration of a big time win.
    in 2006-There is nothing noteworthy about this years matchup. There are no bowl games at stake, there are no conference standings at stake, ECU is no longer a fledgling indepedent football program trying to make it vs. an ACC power of yesteryear. ECU’s football is a well established conference football team and NC State is completing a year which showed promise but has been disappointing. I see this simply as a good-old fashioned ‘steel cage match’ between two foes from the same backyard. Should be fun to watch. A lot of split families, loyalties and peer athletes on both sides of the ledger. Just go win the game

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