A View from the Cheap Seats

SFN Note: SFN welcomes a new author to the stable today. LRM actually helped contribute to the original Statefans.com back in 2002 and 2003 and has re-attached to our new blog team here at StateFansNation. We look forward to more of LRM’s “View from the Cheap Seats” in the future!

I’ll be honest: I really wanted Rick Barnes.

Hiring Sidney Lowe just seemed a bit contrived and markedly uninspiring. Let’s take the guy we know will say yes.

Sure, Lowe seemed to be telling us all the things we wanted to hear, and as part of The Family he fully understands – unlike the coach he replaced – what is truly important to the average State fan. Folks, say what you want, but this is really quite simple: beat Carolina, beat Duke, and win a few ACC titles along the way.

We’re staring down the loaded barrel of a potential Wake Forest versus Rutgers Orange Bowl. That may be the sign of the apocalypse so don’t tell me my expectations are too high.

But Lee Fowler touting Lowe an “excellent choice� just reeked a little too much of Dick Baddour’s rhetoric after he had to settle on Matt Doherty. Truth is, about the only positive things I could find to say about Lowe were that he has ties to the NBA, which should invariably help recruiting, and that he is not Herb Sendek.

Or maybe I was just disappointed that I’d bought so vehemently into the Barnes hype and then wound up having to begrudgingly take down all those future championship banners already hanging so beautifully from the rafters. Even still I have to wonder, if Lowe had been on the 1984 Georgetown championship team, would he still be such a great choice?

Excuse me if I didn’t exactly go out of my way to be ecstatic about this hire.

The thing is, I’ve been a State fan my entire life. But I’m in no way whatsoever an insider and I don’t frequent any message boards. I scan SFN and a few other sites to keep up, but for the most part my best source of “inside� information is usually my buddy Eric’s “gut feelings.�

You know, my gut just tells that we’re going to get Cowher in ’08. Sweet, that’s good enough for me.

I’m nothing more than your average State fan; I complain and criticize, yes, but having sold my soul to the Wolfpack Club, I’m entitled. So right or wrong, I remain convinced that missing out on Barnes, et al, is indicative of much broader issues at the top of our athletics administration.

Everyone knows that perception is indeed reality.

Yet, the simple fact remained that for years the disenchanted among us – that lunatic fringe – had demanded a change, and finally we had gotten our opportunity for a change, albeit not the change. Native Son Barnes wouldn’t be our next coach nor would a host of others not interested in competing against Roy and K.

Instead, it would become former player (not alum) Sidney Lowe, if for no other reason than because Lee Fowler said so.

And so I started crunching the numbers, and it didn’t look promising. By autumn, Lowe had inherited a team that would return only 36% of its scoring and 34% of its total minutes. We would likely be starting three guys – Costner, McCauley, Fells – that combined to average seven points and six minutes last season. We had given a scholarship to some guy named Bryan Nieman.

Luckily, over the years I have blacked out almost every unremarkable memory from that wretched 1995 season, sans the victory over #1-ranked Carolina in Reynolds. But after I realized what this season would likely have in store for Pack fans, it was déjà vu.

But like most State fans that will always be loyal to a fault, I went to see them play Wofford Friday night. And while I won’t say I have great expectations for this season, something strange happened before I could completely write them off as hapless losers. In a season-opener that felt more like one of those 14-versus-3 opening-round NCAA tourney games, where the underdog scorches the nets for 58% behind the arc in the first half while branding its brief cameo into One Shining Moment, and where the favorite has to surge at the end to advance to the next round: They hustled their tails off out there and won a close game.

For the most part, these are guys that have played very little together as a team. Only Atsur and Grant have significant playing time with each other; the others have either the benefit of being new to the team or being excluded from the rotation for most of last season – perhaps a blessing in disguise.

On defense they were fighting for boards, scrapping for steals, and diving for loose balls. On offense they ran the court and created scoring opportunities rather than try to score when some systematic approach dictated, and most importantly, exploited Wofford’s weaknesses in the low post.

They also scored 92 points and genuinely looked like they were enjoying themselves; I know I was. Wait, is that allowed?

Grant and Fells showed flashes of athleticism we could have only dreamed of in recent years with their finesse in the open lanes. Grant feels like the type of player that can explode and quickly take over a game – he’s more talented than Grundy and purer than Hodge. Atsur seemed more at ease running the point in a new offense where he can create plays rather than wait patiently for passing lanes to open up. McCauley is by no means ready to match up with McRoberts – he lacks refinement and probably the overall poise – but he didn’t hesitate to go strong to the basket every time someone dished him the ball in the paint.

Big men in the low post? What’s next, the forward pass in football?

The deplorable truth remains this is likely a 12-win team that will finish at the bottom of the ACC; depth and the obvious inexperience will prove to be huge issues in the long grind of an ACC schedule as well as a respectable non-conference schedule.

But if this team continues to play with the passion and intensity every night that they showed against Wofford, then it will be very tough not to get behind this team. It’s not something I’ve said a lot in the past decade, but this could be an exciting State team to watch. And the dreamer in me can’t help but think Lowe’s first team has at least a couple big upsets, defining victories, in store.

I can think of two right now that would make me very happy.

About LRM

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69 Responses to A View from the Cheap Seats

  1. redfred2 11/17/2006 at 11:01 AM #

    4ever- It’s a scary thought no matter how you look at it.

    As far as the comments from Buck, I have to someone agree with his assessment of the heading. I wasn’t liking the first part at all and didn’t feel that the end summed up a true belief in Sidney Lowe even with what has taken place already. I’m still hearing a lot of remorse and “we’ll see” in that statement above.

    What seems to have been lost here in Wolfpack land is the ability to see beyond run of the mill strategist and what it takes to play and coach the game of basketball. The younger generation of Wolfpack fan has become totally analytical and can’t see anything but numbers, personality and heart have nothing with their assessments. I can’t blame them for that, it’s all they’ve ever seen in Raleigh.

    You’ll all soon find out that what goes on off the court, has much more to do with creating a successful basketball program than all of the X’s and O’s in the universe. JJ Hickson’s said it best when he said he was going with is heart in commiting to NC State. That was before a single game had even been played under Sidney Lowe. That one kid’s single statement speaks volumes as to the type of coach/human being we have Raleigh now.

  2. primacyone 11/17/2006 at 11:02 AM #

    I read LRM to be praising Sidney and saying how terrific Sidney has been so far. LRM is saying Sidney has been shockingly good and has brougt LRM to edge of ectasy from the extreme low point of where LRM was sitting during the search.

    LRM is praising Sidney as loudly as he possibly can while knocking himself(LRM) for thinking such negative thoughts earlier. And it has been Sidney’s great success that has caused it.

  3. redfred2 11/17/2006 at 12:29 PM #

    primacyone

    I guess that’s a better read on it. I’m kinda thinking though that if someone can’t get a feel for the positive aspects with out it first having to be put right in their face out on the basketball court, that they may need to think a little harder.

    “And so I started crunching the numbers…”

    Accounting, over analyzing, a game that is actually fun to play and watch?

    Sorry, but that was not what we needed around here before and it only limited the program for years. And it is definitely not contributing to these great strides the staff has made so far.

    LRM was admitting to a different outlook now which is great, but I believe the proof of what I’m saying was in evidence long before that one Friday night, in the game Wolford.

  4. CarnifeX 11/17/2006 at 12:29 PM #

    are the cheap seats where the lunatic fringe sits?

  5. legacyman 11/17/2006 at 12:39 PM #

    The term “lunatic fringe” was used if not coined by LF to discredit the large number of fans that were upset with you know who. I know many folks who were ready to revolt and they sat in the lower ring in quality seats. Not saying that even folks all the way to the rafters didn’t feel the same way.

  6. redfred2 11/17/2006 at 1:18 PM #

    I just re-read my earlier post, SORRY!!! Time to run out to the drug store for some genkovencobulanialania, the brain is not making good electrical connections apparently. I don’t skip or misplace words when I speak, maybe everybody around here just considers it pretty much normal behavior from me now. Thanks for caring enough not to say ‘WTF was that all about?’

  7. LRM 11/17/2006 at 1:22 PM #

    Thanks to each of you that read and took time to comment (even you, Buck). I think it’s interesting just how varied interpretations of this were, and instead of adding any clarification, I’ll leave it open for everyone to decide for themselves what kind of fan I am and what my point was.

    Just to point out a few things:

    1. As I said, I’m not an insider. I call it the cheap seats because that’s a metaphor for where the average Joe State fan like myself sits, people who grew up in NC cheering their whole lives for a team that wasn’t in the best of times and somehow enduring it with pride. And yes, many of us, contrary to public opinion, were in the vocal minority better known as the lunatic fringe. That was tongue-in-cheek; it’s something that will always be funny to me.

    2. Sports transcend life. I feel like a lot of people can relate to me on this kind of stuff, even if they disagree with me.

    3. I support Lowe 100%. That is one point I do want to make very clear.

    Thanks ya’ll!

  8. primacyone 11/17/2006 at 2:03 PM #

    ^Red,

    Amen on the heart stuff. There have been a lot of teams that never one a championship with X and O’s, even the elitest of talent for that matter.

    I know of at least one team that on a National Championship with mostly heart. Heart and a long pass to a forward with two first names.

    I know at least two coaches that have got some pretty serious heart going on right now – Sidney Lowe and Monte Towe. Better yet, I have seen signs of some current players with some pretty serious heart going on right now.

    And your right: “if someone can’t get a feel for the positive aspects with out it first having to be put right in their face out on the basketball court, that they may need to think a little harder”.

    But Red, you have to remember, a lot of these folks were taught how to think by the former coach. And there wasn’t much heart on or off the basketball court there so the heart ideology is something totally new to them.

  9. cpwolfpackfan 11/17/2006 at 2:12 PM #

    i hope there is a large crowd tonight to cheer them on, every win is a important one this year, So please come out tonight to support them, tickets are cheap and easy to get, there is no excuse not to go

  10. redfred2 11/17/2006 at 2:15 PM #

    LRM, you are right. There are more folks who would agree with your earlier assessment, than disagree. It’s all just a matter of everything being so tangible before, when in reality, that’s not what it takes to make something special happen in the real world.

    I personally, don’t see anything holding us back now. Whether that’s true or not, only time will tell. But win or lose, from the very second when I first heard Sidney Lowe was hired, I knew that it was the best thing that could have ever happened to NC State at the time.

    But I’m old, I’ve seen magic appear wearing an NC State uniform, and more than once in my lifetime. That’s the advantage.

  11. redfred2 11/17/2006 at 2:35 PM #

    ^primacyone

    We were typing at the same time. I couldn’t agree more.

  12. cpwolfpackfan 11/17/2006 at 2:35 PM #

    I think we are going to go places that we haven’t been for a long time. I believe that lowe is the man to get us there and i really think it will be sooner rather that later. One thing i will say is that it is time for us to stop worrying about what duke and unc are doing, and let them start worrying about what we are doing for a change, and that day is not far off, and if i am wrong i will be the first to admit it, but I believe 100% that the real sleeping giant in the triangle has been awoken

  13. cpwolfpackfan 11/17/2006 at 2:36 PM #

    and by sleeping giant, i am not talking about the goats football team

  14. PapaJohn 11/17/2006 at 4:03 PM #

    Terrific post LRM!
    A post I can relate to completely and I enjoyed your writing style.
    And when I watched the first half of the Wofford game I thought, “we’re in DEEP water!!!” Then watching the second half and realizing at the end that I stood and screamed most of the half, that’s what I call fun. And listening to the post game when Courtney (I think) said, commenting on their defensive play, “in the first half we did what we wanted – in the second half we did what Coach wanted – I think we’ll do what he wants from now one.” My wife and I laughed our heads off!
    At that point I mentally dropped my doubts and jumped on for what will surely be an up and down ride, but I’m betting Sid takes us to places Herb never could.
    Thanks Lee, I think you got the right guy. (But I think you need to do something about Tony Soprano, our football coach)

  15. PapaJohn 11/17/2006 at 4:05 PM #

    ^ “… from now ON”

    Gotta run, packing up the family for the double header tonight.

  16. Wolfpack4ever 11/19/2006 at 12:10 AM #

    legacyman Says: “The term “lunatic fringeâ€? was used if not coined by LF to discredit the large number of fans that were upset with you know who. I know many folks who were ready to revolt and they sat in the lower ring in quality seats. Not saying that even folks all the way to the rafters didn’t feel the same way.”

    Thank you for clarifying this point. I had thought all along that “lunatic fringeâ€? was used to discredit the bloggers who were incessantly posting “fire Herb” messages. Ole Jed is so dumb that he used “lunatic fringeâ€? to indicate a large number.

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