A View from the Cheap Seats

SFN Note: SFN welcomes a new author to the stable today. LRM actually helped contribute to the original Statefans.com back in 2002 and 2003 and has re-attached to our new blog team here at StateFansNation. We look forward to more of LRM’s “View from the Cheap Seats” in the future!

I’ll be honest: I really wanted Rick Barnes.

Hiring Sidney Lowe just seemed a bit contrived and markedly uninspiring. Let’s take the guy we know will say yes.

Sure, Lowe seemed to be telling us all the things we wanted to hear, and as part of The Family he fully understands – unlike the coach he replaced – what is truly important to the average State fan. Folks, say what you want, but this is really quite simple: beat Carolina, beat Duke, and win a few ACC titles along the way.

We’re staring down the loaded barrel of a potential Wake Forest versus Rutgers Orange Bowl. That may be the sign of the apocalypse so don’t tell me my expectations are too high.

But Lee Fowler touting Lowe an “excellent choice� just reeked a little too much of Dick Baddour’s rhetoric after he had to settle on Matt Doherty. Truth is, about the only positive things I could find to say about Lowe were that he has ties to the NBA, which should invariably help recruiting, and that he is not Herb Sendek.

Or maybe I was just disappointed that I’d bought so vehemently into the Barnes hype and then wound up having to begrudgingly take down all those future championship banners already hanging so beautifully from the rafters. Even still I have to wonder, if Lowe had been on the 1984 Georgetown championship team, would he still be such a great choice?

Excuse me if I didn’t exactly go out of my way to be ecstatic about this hire.

The thing is, I’ve been a State fan my entire life. But I’m in no way whatsoever an insider and I don’t frequent any message boards. I scan SFN and a few other sites to keep up, but for the most part my best source of “inside� information is usually my buddy Eric’s “gut feelings.�

You know, my gut just tells that we’re going to get Cowher in ’08. Sweet, that’s good enough for me.

I’m nothing more than your average State fan; I complain and criticize, yes, but having sold my soul to the Wolfpack Club, I’m entitled. So right or wrong, I remain convinced that missing out on Barnes, et al, is indicative of much broader issues at the top of our athletics administration.

Everyone knows that perception is indeed reality.

Yet, the simple fact remained that for years the disenchanted among us – that lunatic fringe – had demanded a change, and finally we had gotten our opportunity for a change, albeit not the change. Native Son Barnes wouldn’t be our next coach nor would a host of others not interested in competing against Roy and K.

Instead, it would become former player (not alum) Sidney Lowe, if for no other reason than because Lee Fowler said so.

And so I started crunching the numbers, and it didn’t look promising. By autumn, Lowe had inherited a team that would return only 36% of its scoring and 34% of its total minutes. We would likely be starting three guys – Costner, McCauley, Fells – that combined to average seven points and six minutes last season. We had given a scholarship to some guy named Bryan Nieman.

Luckily, over the years I have blacked out almost every unremarkable memory from that wretched 1995 season, sans the victory over #1-ranked Carolina in Reynolds. But after I realized what this season would likely have in store for Pack fans, it was déjà vu.

But like most State fans that will always be loyal to a fault, I went to see them play Wofford Friday night. And while I won’t say I have great expectations for this season, something strange happened before I could completely write them off as hapless losers. In a season-opener that felt more like one of those 14-versus-3 opening-round NCAA tourney games, where the underdog scorches the nets for 58% behind the arc in the first half while branding its brief cameo into One Shining Moment, and where the favorite has to surge at the end to advance to the next round: They hustled their tails off out there and won a close game.

For the most part, these are guys that have played very little together as a team. Only Atsur and Grant have significant playing time with each other; the others have either the benefit of being new to the team or being excluded from the rotation for most of last season – perhaps a blessing in disguise.

On defense they were fighting for boards, scrapping for steals, and diving for loose balls. On offense they ran the court and created scoring opportunities rather than try to score when some systematic approach dictated, and most importantly, exploited Wofford’s weaknesses in the low post.

They also scored 92 points and genuinely looked like they were enjoying themselves; I know I was. Wait, is that allowed?

Grant and Fells showed flashes of athleticism we could have only dreamed of in recent years with their finesse in the open lanes. Grant feels like the type of player that can explode and quickly take over a game – he’s more talented than Grundy and purer than Hodge. Atsur seemed more at ease running the point in a new offense where he can create plays rather than wait patiently for passing lanes to open up. McCauley is by no means ready to match up with McRoberts – he lacks refinement and probably the overall poise – but he didn’t hesitate to go strong to the basket every time someone dished him the ball in the paint.

Big men in the low post? What’s next, the forward pass in football?

The deplorable truth remains this is likely a 12-win team that will finish at the bottom of the ACC; depth and the obvious inexperience will prove to be huge issues in the long grind of an ACC schedule as well as a respectable non-conference schedule.

But if this team continues to play with the passion and intensity every night that they showed against Wofford, then it will be very tough not to get behind this team. It’s not something I’ve said a lot in the past decade, but this could be an exciting State team to watch. And the dreamer in me can’t help but think Lowe’s first team has at least a couple big upsets, defining victories, in store.

I can think of two right now that would make me very happy.

About LRM

Charter member of the Lunatic Fringe and a fan, loyal to a fault.

06-07 Basketball General Sidney Lowe

69 Responses to A View from the Cheap Seats

  1. statered 11/16/2006 at 5:25 PM #

    Packgirl – you watch Pack replays in the wee hours? Are you single? LOL

  2. redfred2 11/16/2006 at 5:27 PM #

    statered

    “wee” is not a good word to use in a come on. Just some friendly advise.

  3. skywalkerdt 11/16/2006 at 5:28 PM #

    just like it used to be would be a group like dt, tommy b, and monte leading them to back to back seasons with just 1 loss

  4. PackGirl 11/16/2006 at 5:38 PM #

    ^I’m not single, just a little odd. I used to listen to the Cincinnati Reds play on the radio and SCORE the games (had my own system). Most of the games weren’t on TV during the era of the Big Red Machine, so that was the best I could do. (And yes, I am married to a man…)

  5. Frank 11/16/2006 at 5:48 PM #

    One thing I have not seen discussed is Sids’ bosses in the NBA. They do not just hand out those jobs to just anyone, either as an assistant coach or head coach. They must have seen something really great in him to keep him all those years. He must have been a really effective coach. They probably have 100 qualified people apply for every one of those jobs. To have stayed there as long as he did, he has to have really great coaching talent. I think we have seen a little of it already.

  6. tdawg 11/16/2006 at 6:42 PM #

    actually, an alumnus is defined as: a graduate OR former student of a specific school, college, or university. Seeing as Lowe falls into the former student category, he is definatly an alum. Other than that incorrect fact, great article.

  7. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 11/16/2006 at 6:49 PM #

    Didn’t want Rick Barns

    Coach D’oh and Lowe have nothing in common except for the fact that they both where on teams that won a NC and some would even argue that D’oh was usually one of the best players for the other team.

  8. redfred2 11/16/2006 at 7:02 PM #

    Sidney Lowe, Derrick Whittenburg, Nate McMillian, Terry Gannon, Thurl Bailey, Lorenzo Charles,…and the list goes on and on. All of those former NCSU players, and more, went on to varying degrees of success in some basketball/sports venue as professionals after leaving NCSU.

    Coincidence? I think not. It’s more like a living legacy to the inspiration who they were fortunate to have as their head basketball coach at NC State?

  9. Rasheed Weed Wallace 11/16/2006 at 7:44 PM #

    So let me get this straight SFN. You added another uninformed and unknowledgable author to your already know nothing noninsider nancy boy gossipy staff of writers. Woo hoo! Just when one thought the credibilty of this site could stoop no lower! Atta Boy!

  10. Butch Davis 11/16/2006 at 8:00 PM #

    I’d like to thank SFN and all its fans here for the best recruiting material any coach could ever ask for your constant negative observations of your football program and constant bashing of your coach gives me more material for recruiting in your state than I could dream of. You are the best site any coach of a rival school could ask. My staff will be well armed with your posts and articles to show every recruit in NC why UNX and not NCSU is the best school for them. My staff could not invent or put together better material than you have for me and my staff. And as the new coach of what you consider a rival school. I thank you and look forward to dominating NC in recruiting and never losing to you ever. Thank you! Butch Devis! New UNX coach!

  11. redfred2 11/16/2006 at 8:28 PM #

    ^Another brief attempt to end their own boredom from the (((1))) win powder blue f_agship. Nothing to get alarmed about.

  12. Clarksa 11/16/2006 at 8:38 PM #

    As a friend of mine said, it will be more exciting watching these guys lose than it was watching Herb’s teams win…

    Oh, and you can count me as one of those who thought Barnes was not “the answer.”

  13. BrooklynPack 11/16/2006 at 8:52 PM #

    I agree with Butch, SFN should try to be more of a Fox news type and focus only on cheerleading. Being objective is dangerous. We should always have blind faith in the team we love and always stay the course. Our enemies are watching our every post, and if you’re being critical… well, then, the tarheelorists have already won.

  14. legacyman 11/16/2006 at 8:53 PM #

    I was hoping for Barnes because I didn’t think there was any chance for Sidney as he didn’t have a completed degree. The other early choices were fallbacks and I wasn’t really enthused over many of them…certainly not the WVU coach who would have caused a major revolt had he replaced himself at State…

    Once Sid’s name appeared, I almost leapt for joy…what a chance for our history to be repeated…not necessarily an NCAA title (We would love another) but the chance to watch a team play hard, win or lose, and enjoy the game with a coach who understands our heritage, was a part of it and wants to revive it. I am so stoked. I know that we will have some losses, maybe some bad losses but good times are coming, folks, they are coming.

  15. beowolf 11/16/2006 at 9:26 PM #

    Excellent post, LRM.

    I’ve been telling folks for months that this was going to be a fun season, even though this team isn’t expected to win much, and you hit on most of the reasons why I think it’ll be a fun season.

    I was there Friday night. Heckuva game. There were many times a Herb team would’ve folded in that game, but they kept on fighting.

  16. WolfPup35 11/16/2006 at 10:10 PM #

    Great Post!! I, too was at the Wofford game, and IMHO, the convicts were allowing a LOT of really short picks that opened up the 3 for the Terriers. Maybe they wanted to give the young guys a small sample of the kinds of screens and no calls they can expect in Durham and Chapel Hell. Overall I was pleased with the effort I saw out of the team, and DID SID LOOK STYLEY IN THAT SUIT OR WHAT!?!?! Just remember this….State was on the WINING END of a game where there was 92 points scored!! This season will be a struggle, but there will be some surprises for the big boys if the ACC!! WE WILL BE TAKEN LIGHTLY AND OVERLOOKED!! There is a bright future ahead.

  17. Buck 11/16/2006 at 10:48 PM #

    Second half was great. First half of this post SUCKED. Rehashing the coaching search is a worthless waste of words and is so typical of the lunatic fringe. Gotta get in that shot no matter who the coach is don’t ya…

    “Lowe seemed to be telling us all the things we wanted to hear…” and, “But Lee Fowler touting Lowe an “excellent choiceâ€? just reeked a little too much of Dick Baddour’s rhetoric after he had to settle on Matt Doherty…”, and “Even still I have to wonder, if Lowe had been on the 1984 Georgetown championship team, would he still be such a great choice?”

    Lowe is one of us you jerk and you need not insult him through your characterizations. You made up to him at the end so you feel all justified about taking that opening shot at him and Fowler. And Give up your man love for Barnes already would ya. I predict that the first bit of adversity will bring out the fringe again to GNAW OFF OUR COLLECTIVE PAW. You are not the person I would ever want next to me in a battle against another team.

    But then again I’m suppose I’m all wrong because you, as you say, are somehow “entitled”. Yes…you are entitled to your opinion sure…and all the sophomoric stupidity that comes with it. But realize what you are saying and doing to the wolfpack community…who should be united behind the coach 100 percent. Lowe should know and see that none of us have any feet or toes on the “I told ya so” side of the fence when it comes to the search.

  18. newswolf 11/16/2006 at 11:09 PM #

    good read

  19. Matt E. 11/16/2006 at 11:13 PM #

    Buck, I think you missed the whole point of the post. Also, if you actually knew LRM you’d realize how stupid and off base your comment is.

  20. quackpipe 11/16/2006 at 11:17 PM #

    from buck: You are not the person I would ever want next to me in a battle against another team.

    why, does he stink or something?

    or are you just kellen winslow jr. in disguise

  21. Buck 11/17/2006 at 1:19 AM #

    My point was this…sometimes you fringers lose sight of your words…they aren’t just words, man. Lowe is our coach now and we need to forget about any coaching search sour grapes. Otherwise we are just like Al Gore supporters crying “not my president� after the 2000 election. Those opening words LRM said about Lowe are cutting to Lowe and not helpful to him, his recruiting, or to us. I’m glad LRM enjoyed the team’s play in the end. But the opening part of that post was just a losers defeatist rant…then he says “I’m entitled?�…that strikes me as someone who couldn’t or didn’t get his way in the search and makes those comments so when the going starts to get tough for Sid they can have a reset point, stop rowing, say I told you so, and then even start rowing in the opposite direction (and things are going to get rough for Lowe at some point and everyone knows some are going to row in the opposite direction before others).

    And Sid isn’t just somebody who wouldn’t say no!…he is a part of Wolfpack Glory, and yes of course it would make a diff if he had won a championship and Georgetown instead of NCSU because he wouldn’t have been one of us. We need to just stop writing this crap about Lowe, and throw our whole weight behind him.

  22. Frank 11/17/2006 at 2:13 AM #

    Buck,

    I strongly agree. Let’s focus on what will help the team, not emotional venting. A little discipline would help a lot right about now on this forum. I, for one, think we got the best coach we could possibly could have found. Sidney Lowe is a winner.

  23. Wolfpack4ever 11/17/2006 at 8:18 AM #

    primacyone Says: “Glad you liked the other reply.

    I’ve been wondering where Dan is myself. I was starting to think he resurfaced as wolfpack4ever”

    REd, I re-read both posts a couple of times and still couldn’t figure out who was kissing whose big, red, loyal, solfpacker ass.

    This LRM is the real deal as is Sid and the new Wolfpack bb team. I believe both you, redfred, and I would rather lose having fun and playing get-your-best-holt basketball than that precision, uncreative game.

  24. Otis 11/17/2006 at 9:09 AM #

    “Hiring Sidney Lowe just seemed a bit contrived and markedly uninspiring. Let’s take the guy we know will say yes.”

    Opposed to the hiring of several guys who said “No”.

  25. GAWolf 11/17/2006 at 9:49 AM #

    I think you guys are missing the point… I think he’s admitting that he was wrong. The internet is the only place I’ve ever seen where a guy can stand up and admit that he was wrong and still get slammed for it. You guys kill me.

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