Why Tonight’s Game is HUGE

I doubt many of you need explanation, but I’ll throw it out there anyway. I’m not sure there has been a bigger game in Chuck Amato’s career at NC State. It certainly has the feel of a major turning point, one way or the other.

What a win would mean: A 2-0 start in the conference, with both wins against consensus “first division” teams. The possibility of real momentum, knowing that a home win against Wake would put us at 3-0 in ACC play, with very winnable road games at Maryland and Virginia up next. The schedule would set up well for a possible showdown game at Clemson for the division title (even though it would be a very hard game to win, at least we’d get our shot). Assuming we somehow beat Clemson, we would hold tiebreaker edges over everybody, meaning we’d control our destiny if we could just get to 6-2.

What a loss would mean: Our overall record would drop to 2-3, with 4 of our 6 remaining ACC games on the road. The Wake game would be do or die for conference/decent bowl positioning. A division title would probably require State to run the table. We would only have the Evans miracle keeping the season from being a complete disaster, as the losses to Akron and USM look even worse after those teams’ performance in recent weeks.

Let there be no doubt – we have a national stage to take advantage of a fantastic opportunity to establish some real program momentum. Amato simply must get it done tonight. He’s not likely to get such a chance again, with a weak ACC so ripe for the picking.

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131 Responses to Why Tonight’s Game is HUGE

  1. CaptainCraptacular 10/06/2006 at 9:34 AM #

    PackBacker001, to answer your question. On the 2 drives that FSU moved the ball on us in the 2nd half (the 99.5 yard drive and the end of the game drive) a lot of the plays were 5-10 yard pass plays to the wideouts or backs slipping out of the backfield. The corners were laying off the wideouts on those 2 drives allowing them enough cushion to easily get the first downs, but not much more. They must have been warned over and over again about fades or hitch-n-go’s and were told under no circumstances to let themselves get beat deep. So as a consequence they gave up the little dink and dunks.

    As for the backs coming out of the backfield, FSU would set up picks or traffic jams on the linebackers covering them, which gave them just enough space on the outside to get 6-10 yards or so.

    I thought it was a very good gameplan by Jeff Bowden on those particular drives, to take what we were giving them, even though it didn’t work out for them in the end.

  2. packgrad2000 10/06/2006 at 9:35 AM #

    That was definitely the best complete game I’ve watched us play since the 2003 Gator Bowl. Hopefully those young receivers will have some confidence, and the coaches will have confidence in them, in the future. They made catches tonight that would have made Holt, K-Rob, and Cotchery jealous. It seemed like every receiver Evans threw to was well covered yet somehow they caught them.
    Maybe part of the reason Evans has sparked this team is that to look at him, there’s nothing intimidating about him at all. He was unheralded and barely even got a scholarship, and now he’s leading the Pack to big wins. That has to be inspiring for the OL when they go up against a bigger DL, and for everyone else. Something has obviously clicked.

  3. class of 74 10/06/2006 at 9:36 AM #

    You have to wonder, did Stone get the starting nod over Evans in the beginning because he looks more like a football player just standing there statically? Or was it because he is older an in the program longer than Evans? Because there is no comparison once you put them behind the line of scrimmage in live action. Whether it is accuracy, decisions made or demeanor Evans is the clear cut choice!

    I am the first to admit Evans does look fragile out there compared to those other guys on the field, but he darn sure doesn’t play that way!

  4. ShootingGuard 10/06/2006 at 9:40 AM #

    “Lou Holtz said at halftime, “If they can keep it within six, the (((EVANS))) kid will find a way to win.â€?”

    It’s weird. My wife and I went to the game, and we both had the same feeling the whole game. We usually get pissed off when we’re losing, but it was like you just felt some quiet confidence or magic feeling the whole time like,”let’s just stay a little behind until late, so we don’t get cocky and blow it…and, then, somehow, some way, that scrawny overachiever at QB will make it happen.”

    I don’t know what the rest of the season holds (hopefully GREAT things), but, barring injuries, we can do a lot of good things if our O-line can provide Evans just a little time and Brown/Baker just a little daylight…

    Evans is starting to remind me a lot of Major Applewhite—he’s just a winner through and through…

  5. CaptainCraptacular 10/06/2006 at 9:43 AM #

    As State fans, our collective problems with Chuck over the last 30 months seems to have stemmed more from having an undisciplined unit full of individuals out on the field embarrassing us at times, rather than from actual losses.

    But we have a team on the field right now that is playing disciplined, unselfish, and as a team that believes in each other. Its a beautiful thing to watch and Chuck and staff deserve mucho credit for getting them to this point.

  6. class of 74 10/06/2006 at 9:50 AM #

    ^Somebody needs to tell Chuck we play FSU 12 times each season. We might not win all twelve but the effort and execution would be there 12 times. Congratulations again to both he and his staff for a great game last night.

  7. Wolfpack4ever 10/06/2006 at 10:06 AM #

    noah Says: The weakness of the OL is at the tackle spot.

    Noah, In the spirit of two guys who are very positive supporters, I suggest you go to your comment about Trestman criticisers and substitute “OL.” 😉

    If our OL is to be considered weak because of its performance against a very big, strong, mobile, agile, hostile, experienced (did I leave anything out?) FSU DL, tell me, please, what team in this nation that doesn’t play on Sunday DOES have a strong OL? I think we are guilty here of believing our own season long assessment of the OL. The stats don’t support the assessment that our OL is weak.

    Want to say our OL is not the best in the conference or not the best we’ve ever had? No problem. But “weak”? Let it rest.

  8. noah 10/06/2006 at 10:09 AM #

    ” I have say that Trestman’s trickery, though unsuccessful, did help to keep them guessing right from the start.”

    It was more than just the trickery. We were incredibly balanced last night.

    We’d show a formation in a down-and-distance and we’d run. We would get back to the same down-and-distance and we’d flash the formation and then pass. We’d run when we probably ought to pass and we’d pass when we’d probably be better off running and as a result, FSU had NO IDEA what we were doing.

    If you watch the replay, look at their defense and you’ll see that they aren’t cheating much at all and they weren’t very successful at jumping the snap count. They had to play us straight up and that’s HUGE when you’ve got OL issues.

    The simplest offense in the ACC is Miami. They know they have better personnel than everyone else, so they just run over you (or they did in the past). They have a play that they run on the goal line where they come out with TEs to either side. Then they bring one TE in motion and line him up with the other. Everytime they do that in the redzone, go ahead and expect them to run the counter to the strong side. I’ve never seen them run any other play out of that formation. They did to us over and over a few years ago at C-F. We knew it was coming and lined up to defend it and they just ran over us.

    When you don’t have the horses, you have to be clever and get the defense thinking and reacting instead of anticipating. The difference between success and failure on a single play in miniscule and if you can get the defense to hesitate for half a beat, that’s huge.

  9. BJD95 10/06/2006 at 10:11 AM #

    I apologize for the lack of a good wrapup post – I am also an Apex evacuee. Pretty cool we made Sportscenter – should call the “worldwide leader” and demand some attribution!

    How nice was it to take advantage of a great program opportunity? And Trestman’s play calling was fantastic, as I told my wife throughout.

    We will be favored in each of the next 3 games. The trip to Clemson will be meaningful as long as we win 2 of the next 4.

  10. noah 10/06/2006 at 10:13 AM #

    4ever – Newby had a few plays where he did a great job last night. He also whiffed a few times.

    Jon Holt still needs to improve. I counted five plays where he didn’t even lay a hand on his man. It’s one thing if you can’t keep an FSU def. end (even if that guy is a true freshman) out of the backfield.

    It’s quite another thing when you can’t even get a hand on your man.

    I’m looking forward to Julian Williams and Jerrail McCuller stepping into the tackle spots next year. McCuller is a 6-7, 350 pound guy who was a power forward in high school. We’re going to have seven hundred pounds of beef on the right side with him and Curtis Crouch. Williams was a pretty agile tackle in New Bern before he hurt his knee. He’s about 6-5 and just under 300 pounds now.

  11. redfred2 10/06/2006 at 10:23 AM #

    We now have a passing game…which helps the offensive line in their blocking schemes…opens up the running game…both of which put points on the scoreboard…which allows the athletes on the defensive side of the ball to become more and more and aggressive knowing it’s not all they’re responsibility to keep us in the game anymore…which allows everybody to contribute and play their tales off…and play like a TEAM.

    FINALLY!!! Some of the elusive and long awaited “BALANCE,” is starting to take shape. I don’t care what the press says, Chuck Amato comes across to kids and has the talent waiting in the wings already. If this stays intact and really shows some consistency, look out for a major recruiting haul, and CTC’s his lofty goals becoming more and more in focus.

    Patience and time are either 100% for him…or against him…???

  12. Dan 10/06/2006 at 10:32 AM #

    I know he wouldnt use the same phrase, but Daniel Evans is F’ing hard.

    Two 4th quarter comebacks.

  13. Cardiff Giant 10/06/2006 at 10:35 AM #

    I agree with Noah’s views.

    What a fine, fine, fine win. That’s just basically it. I can’t remember the last time I saw a truly balanced, (fairly) consistently well-executing team take the field for NC State against a non-hapless opponent. I suppose I would say the last time I saw that was 2002, with glimmers in 2003.

  14. beowolf 10/06/2006 at 10:54 AM #

    “As State fans, our collective problems with Chuck over the last 30 months seems to have stemmed more from having an undisciplined unit full of individuals out on the field embarrassing us at times, rather than from actual losses.”

    I agree with that 100%. That’s why I’m so PUMPED about how the team’s played these last two games. Two games trailing ranked teams in the fourth quarter, and pulling out wins, and playing hard the whole way through. Acting like a disciplined TEAM of gentlemen.

    I need to give Amato more credit than I have been. He’s been able to turn around a team TWICE now in the face of HEATED CRITICISM. They say a team takes on the character of the coach. Maybe we’re also seeing Chuck’s character in these teams. He’s no media darling, and he still says funny things — but doggone if he doesn’t hang in there no matter what. And like those ACC blowout game stats and winning record in tight-game stats tell us, his teams are usually in all their games and often in a position to win at the end. Reminds me of Jim Valvano, this in-season honing and perfecting of the team.

    I don’t want to say too much, because he’s Chuck Amato and nobody else. But I have to give him credit where it’s due and step back a bit from Monday-morning QB’ing and complaining. His comments about “What critics” and this win is for the fans — very gracious.

  15. redfred2 10/06/2006 at 11:13 AM #

    Noah

    Your football mind, or your mind in general, is far superior, thanks for elaborating on my generalizations. Good stuff!

    Craptacular

    “As State fans, our collective problems with Chuck over the last 30 months seems to have stemmed more from having an undisciplined unit full of individuals out on the field embarrassing us at times, rather than from actual losses.�

    110% AGREED also!!! That doesn’t mean that there aren’t question marks and always will be in any game, but this staff is trying to answer right now, and has made some great progress.

  16. VaWolf82 10/06/2006 at 11:33 AM #

    � I have say that Trestman’s trickery, though unsuccessful, did help to keep them guessing right from the start.�

    DC’s don’t worry about plays that don’t work….they worry about plays that do work….like hitting WR’s in stride 15 yards down field on the sideline. As noah said, when the defense doesn’t know what is coming, they have to play straight up. When the QB can hit receivers down field (as opposed to only behind the LOS), then the safeties have to stay back and you can’t pack 8 or 9 guys in the box.

  17. Wolfpack4ever 10/06/2006 at 12:00 PM #

    This is not going to be a popular thing to say, but it is there for me to be said:

    Chuck and his staff have taken a lot of heat and accusations of being bad coaches because we lost to Akron and a good Southern Miss team but is the measure of a good coach always winning — even the ones his fans THINK he OUGHT to win? Bust me if I’m wrong but I don’t think we were overwhelming favorites in either game. I get annoyed because ND is always, always ranked based partly on the past. I assert that Akron and SM were devalued based on the past as well. You can’t put one reputation (Akron) against another reputation (or expectation) and determine a winner. Non NCSU people were not surprised at the results even if the results might have been unexpected. They rated us #68 or so in some system with Akron rated higher than us.

    Our coaches have taken a very young team decimated by graduation and the NFL draft with a great athlete but suspect player (Stone) at QB and have COACHED that non-team into a team that is scaring the sh** out of people now. Bobby B said that we had “found themselves in the BC game, darn it.” “Found themselves” is how we say it but teams don’t “find themselves,” coaches teach, make adjustments, tweek line-ups, etc. And so it is with our coaches.

  18. Wolfpack4ever 10/06/2006 at 12:09 PM #

    “DC’s don’t worry about plays that don’t work….they worry about plays that do work…” True and would be a relevant comment if the plays were run for the benefit of DCs. Concerns put in the minds of players can affect reaction times… and this is the value of running these kinds of plays in the first series. This might not work on Sunday, but we play on Saturday (and Thursday on National TV. 😉 )

  19. redfred2 10/06/2006 at 12:13 PM #

    ^VaWolfe82

    OK, OK, you are smarter too.

    Will everyone please quit using my well intended but simple minded BS to make me the whipping boy around here today.

  20. Sippit 10/06/2006 at 12:23 PM #

    Atmosphere was great in CF last night, fans should take credit for the win as well. Early in the 4th quarter with FSU trapped in the North Endzone it was so loud, FSU just had a delay of game and then were forced to take their final timeout, which helped us just run the clock down deep in their endzone. If they had even one timeout there at the last minutes we would have needed to get a first down secured to run the clock out, and there’s no tellin how it could have ended up. The 12th man is def. a factor now that the stadium is completely bowled. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for us and Chuck.

  21. Woof Wolf 10/06/2006 at 12:32 PM #

    rf2:

    Almost everybody is happy about last night and he direction things are going. We’ve got nothing to bitch about. So, find entertainment where we can.

    Just keep setting them up…

  22. cfpack03 10/06/2006 at 12:36 PM #

    Contributing alums should begin to feel a lot better about their big $ donations. Sold out Carter Finley (and it has been for 7 yrs and counting) is deafening, clearly affects visiting teams, and looks incredible on national television.

  23. Wolfpack4ever 10/06/2006 at 12:38 PM #

    redfred2 Says: “Will everyone please quit using my well intended but simple minded BS to make me the whipping boy around here today.”

    I can get this off you if you like. I’ve known to piss off the Good Humor Man. 😉

    And I like where you are looking — what is Treatman’s intent vs. second-guessing with insulting opinion of your own. If gadget plays work, great! If they don’t work, great! This is like the old story about making a mule shake his head by hitting with a 2×4. The 2×4 didn’t get the mule to shake his head but the question, “Do you want me to do that again?” sure did.

  24. old13 10/06/2006 at 12:43 PM #

    Let’s not forget Dwayne Dixon for teaching all our receivers how to make those amazing catches! GO ‘PACK!

  25. tractor57 10/06/2006 at 1:29 PM #

    “DC’s don’t worry about plays that don’t work….they worry about plays that do work”

    So true but the effect was on the players not the DC. I thought Trestman did a great job of organizing the whole offensive game plan – aided no doubt by Evans ability to actually throw a pass on target. I don’t question Stone’s toughness or his willingness to “take one for the team” but there can be no doubt that Evans works much better at QB for the pack.

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