WEDNESDAY’s Red vs White Game

Let me start this entry by stating that I am really not trying to be difficult and look for things to criticize. To prove this, I am going to try to be open- minded and construct this in a matter that asks a lot of questions without a lot of criticism. I honestly am seeking responses that offer some insight and rationale into this topic.

If you didn’t know, Coach Sidney Lowe’s first Red vs White game is scheduled for this Wednesday night in Reynolds Coliseum.

What a wonderful opportunity to watch a little of Coach Lowe’s first version of the Wolfpack!! But, I am unfortunately not going to be able to make the event. Please don’t misconstrue my absence, or the absence of hundreds/thoughts of others, for a lack of interest in Wolfpack Basketball. You see, those of us interested in the event but who are unable to attend are just stricken with a prevalent and common affliction called “we-don’t-live-in-Raleigh-itis”.

As much as many of us would LOVE to show up to support Coach Lowe and the Pack, the folks at NC State have geniusly scheduled Sidney’s first Red/White game for a mid-week timeslot that makes it all but impossible for people who may live in Charlotte, or Eastern North Carolina or Southern Virginia to make the trip. Since the women’s game will preceed the men’s game, I expect that the men’s event will probably START around 8:15-8:30pm on a Wednesday night.

Can anyone name the last time that the NC State Basketball intra-squad scrimmage was NOT held on a weekend?

I’m legitimately curious about this^ because I can’t remember the last time a Red/White game was not played on a weekend. For 30+ years, hundreds of people around the NC State Basketball program – spanning at least four different coaching regimes – have scheduled the Red/White game on a weekend. What did all of these previous people NOT know that our Athletics Administration has suddenly figured out?

What suddenly changed that merits any alteration from the game’s traditional weekend scheduling?

And, what do we know that other schools don’t know? Think about the ‘losers’ at poor old Duke. Those idiots have scheduled their intra-squad scrimmage for a Saturday! LOL! When are they going to learn anything about basketball and fans? And Carolina. They have almost always scheduled their intra-squad scrimmages for weekends. If only these idiots at these second rate schools knews what the folks at NC State knew!

My father took me to Red-White games almost annually when I was between the ages of ten and eighteen. Sometimes the games were scheduled on weekends that included football games and we got to enjoy a double dose of Wolfpack fun. Those weekend trips to Raleigh were fantastic bonding events for us; and my connection to the Wolfpack escalated during those trips to be able to be so close to the basketball players that I got to see on television during the week. I guess like so many things, ‘those were the days’ – the days when you didn’t have to live in Raleigh to be be able to conveniently go watch your Wolfpack practice.

I know that it doesn’t mean anything anymore…but, wouldn’t it be kind of cool for the kids who love the Wolfpack from all over the region – not just the ones who live in Raleigh – to have the chance to experience a day with the basketball team program? How many parents in Charlotte or Hickory or New Bern or Wilmington can justify the negative impact on their child’s schedule and school work to get home after midnight on a Wednesday night?

Look…I get the point and understand most of the pending retorts – ‘if I REALLY wanted to come see the Red/White event then I would leave work early on Wednesday to drive 3 hours to watch the game and then drive back to get home close to 1am like I do during the basketball season. What is one more expensive night sacrificed to the road for the Wolfpack?’

But, it is not about “me”. These events used to always be much more about the experience and the bond that they create with young fans. Not those like me that are already hopelessly committed to the Pack.

Regardless, there is a BIG difference between the schedules that are put together by the ACC that require balance/equity and the exercising of free-will to CHOOSE to schedule this event on a Wednesday night as opposed to a weekend. ESPECIALLY when the Wednesday night time conflicts with Chuck Amato’s radio show!!

What next? How about scheduling Coach Lowe’s FIRST REGULAR SEASON GAME on a weekend when the football team is out of town and the most rabid fans have already booked their travel to the football game! (I’ll save that one for another time).

I’m just looking for some insight into the “thinking” behind the “strategy” of this scheduling decision. Thanks.

SFN encourages you to click here for a very relevant and related entry to this topic.

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65 Responses to WEDNESDAY’s Red vs White Game

  1. TNCSU 10/24/2006 at 9:41 AM #

    Anyone know why the PG Christopher Warren offer was rescinded – if in fact it was? I think he visited NCSU this weekend.

    SFN: Who said that we ever offered Warren? You can’t rescind an offer that wasn’t made.

  2. burnbarn 10/24/2006 at 10:28 AM #

    ^ As I understand it, the offer was not recinded…. it was never made. I think we are waiting on some ‘others’.

  3. PackGirl 10/24/2006 at 1:06 PM #

    The men and women will play alternating 20 min scrimmages on Weds night. The details are on gopack.com. It appears that Sid is helping to promote the women’s team while also raising awareness/funds for breast cancer. Gosh Sid (or whoever agreed to this atrocity), how could you be such an idiot and actually think about helping anyone outside of the men’s team?

    Yes, I am a “girl”, have breasts (at least for now), so may be biased on this topic. It seems like a nice thing for Sid to do.

  4. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 10/24/2006 at 1:51 PM #

    I’m happy that Sid is having the game during the week on campus. The focus should be with the Students and if some of us old people want to show up on campus for a university event then feel free to go. These sports teams are for students which I know is hard for some to remember. If alumni and friends want to be a part of a college activity that is great but the idea that the student-athlete events should be scheduled for this group is obsurd.

    Should the Rugby club team consult alumni when it would be best to have their games? Maybe we should be checking with alumni and friends to see when the best time to watch Weekend at Bernie’s II over at Witherspoon because a Friday night just work for me.

    Hats off to QJ and Sidney on this one!

  5. redfred2 10/24/2006 at 1:53 PM #

    PackGirl

    Oh, it’s very nice alright, it’s just that it’s not exactly the right time.

    The cause is more important in the overall scheme of things, but we’re launching a new basketball program at the moment, that deserves some major consideration from these department heads as well. There is/OR WAS actually time to do both.

    I have seen no planning or any evidence of those considerations for the men’s basketball program at all.

  6. redfred2 10/24/2006 at 2:03 PM #

    tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc

    I disagree with you on this one. This should be an introduction set aside for a new men’s Head Basketball Coach and his staff. These bits and pieces, no center of attention, and little off to the side introductions, are not going to present the proper welcome to the staff and players.

    This should be one on one, the new coaches and the kids receiving 100% focus from the Wolfpack fans, with no other distractions.

  7. old13 10/24/2006 at 2:33 PM #

    Fine, tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc! And how do you suggest that the students pay the $31M athletics budget without alumni support!

  8. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 10/24/2006 at 5:52 PM #

    old13 surely you jest.

    I’m not saying the students have to pay and if alumni want to give then give. Your ahhh arguement is makes about as muchWhat atletics are you going to watch without students playing?

    I don’t give a gift then tell someone how to use it. Don’t give if you want to tie a bunch of strings to your gift. The games are for the kids but if you want to donate some cash to make the experience more enjoyable for yourself that is fantastic.

  9. #44 17 24 10/24/2006 at 8:11 PM #

    I pesonally couldnt care less about what time the Red-White game is. The more Coach Lowe changes our basketball program the better. of course I do live like 30 seconds away from reynolds.

  10. jwrenn29 10/24/2006 at 11:09 PM #

    I think the same person who scheduled the R/W game also told the football team that the game doesn’t start until the second half…

  11. packbackr04 10/25/2006 at 10:46 AM #

    I Just saw that Tracy Smith has qualifed and his recruitment may be winding down….. anyone? shootinguard?

    what about Chris Warren, can he play or is he mid major talent? I also read that he is more of a shooting guard. dont we need a point?

  12. packbackr04 10/25/2006 at 11:00 AM #

    It also looks like Jamelles stock has risen since he verballed to HErbervore. He is now in the top 100 on scouts and is listed as a 4 star player….. not that the number of stars or scouts ranking is the end all be all, but it looks like Sids decision to overlook jamellle and go for Wright might prove to be a costly one as it definitely appears that Mcmillan is a better guard than Chris Warren. Only time will tell

  13. redfred2 10/25/2006 at 4:29 PM #

    I hate McMillian didn’t come here only because of his dad, and some of the comparisons written about his similar demeanor.

    “He is now in the top 100 on scouts and is listed as a 4 star player…..”

    And there…he will forever stay.

  14. Dan 10/26/2006 at 2:04 PM #

    The early signing period cant get here soon enough for me. The sooner we get JJ’s name in ink the better.

    Rivals.com just rated JJ as the the best post scorer in the whole nation.

    Anybody see the news about Bill Walker? Now, I know his old principal is sticking up for his ability. But does it suprise anyone that Bob Huggins was able to get a high school junior into college a year early?

  15. highstick 10/26/2006 at 8:54 PM #

    Packgirl says: Yes, I am a “girl�, have breasts (at least for now), so may be biased on this topic. It seems like a nice thing for Sid to do.

    I had a really stupid thought when I read this…. Will CTC be participating too if having breasts is a qualification?????

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