Truth & Rumor: Cowher in Light Blue? (Key Update @ 2:30pm)

From Sports Illustrated through the Philadelphia Daily News:

“A few folks in Pittsburgh think Bill Cowher is ready to walk away from the Steelers and could resurface at one of those Carolina schools, because his children are older and his wife is from down that way.”

Let’s play the “what if” game for a moment. (And, please don’t bother posting comments that proclaim as fact things that you know nothing about like, “not going to happen”, etc).

Based on the premise that many, many, many people truly believe that this is going to be Bill Cowher’s last year with the Pittsburgh Steelers, then let’s ASSUME for a moment that Cowher feels like he has had his run in NFL Football and is ready for a change.

In our humble opinion, the real question then becomes, “does Cowher want any time-off in between NFL Football and his next gig? or does he want to jump right into something?

So, WHAT IF these aforementioned items line-up to create a situation where the truth is that Bill Cowher is retiring from the NFL and immediately wants a new challenge on the college level?

With this saidwhat if UNC-CH approaches Cowher with their currently open position to discuss their job. What becomes of NC State’s chances to land its ultimate football coaching prize? Could you imagine?

Is there ANY reason to think that Lee Fowler is doing anything other than preparing for his next media interview or writing his next open letter to publicly criticize NC State’s fans and defend the existing status quo in Raleigh until his last breath?

Our take is very, very, very simply —

IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

For the future of NC State Football, we think that ^this message must be appropriately delivered to Coach Cowher and his people in the most careful and strategic manner possible (if it hasn’t already).

Chuck Amato has had more than ample time to establish a better-than-mediocre program at NC State. Although Amato has done an excellent job when judged against many metrics, nobody can make a legitimate case that Amato has been successful enough in separating State from the pack to earn himself a label of ‘untouchable’ under all circumstances. Quite the opposite.

Please note that at this point in time we IN NO WAY support firing Chuck Amato under any circumstance other than the circumstance where Bill Cowher says that he wants the job. We warn you to be VERY CAREFUL about our comments. We are NOT suggesting that NC State fire Chuck Amato and try to replace him with Bill Cowher; we are suggesting that (at this time) you only fire Chuck Amato if you already have it arranged to replace him with Bill Cowher.

Bill Cowher is the primary reason why we think that ALL NC State fans need to be VERY CAREFUL about any calls for Amato’s job now or in the near future. You need to let all of these moving parts play themselves out or you may be very sad that you get what wished for.

Like he has publicly stated in Pittsburgh newspapers at various times in the last fifteen years, what if Bill Cowher truly wants to end his career coaching football at NC State but wants to take one year off before coming back to coaching? If those of you that so desperately want Amato gone got your wish, then you would have missed on landing Bill Cowher all because of your zeal for change and lack of strategic thinking. Heck, it would be ‘inversely identical’ strategic blunder that Lee Fowler made five years ago by not firing Herb Sendek before the likes of Rick Barnes and John Calipari got so rooted and entrenched in their current situations that they became significantly more difficult to land.

It looks like NC State’s long anticipated “Bill Cowher situation” may be evolving into play. It also looks like the potential situation will require nimble movement, proactive management, strategic thinking and big balls. Unfortunately for all of us, our Athletics Director is Lee Fowler and our chancellor hasn’t proven an ability to face one ounce of controversy or resistance with anything remotely resembling a spine.

…with Carolina’s job currently open…this could be a very interesting few months.

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58 Responses to Truth & Rumor: Cowher in Light Blue? (Key Update @ 2:30pm)

  1. Trout 10/26/2006 at 1:33 PM #

    Writer probably means Ravenscroft. “)

  2. nycfan 10/26/2006 at 2:06 PM #

    LOL. Don’t all his ‘older’ kids go to State? Writer seems to lack any knowledge of the region.

  3. Trout 10/26/2006 at 2:09 PM #

    Cowher has 3 daughters. His oldest daughter Meagan plays college basketball at Princeton University. Another daughter, Lauren, will also be attending Princeton University to play basketball. The youngest is at Ravenscroft.

  4. Jeremy Hyatt 10/26/2006 at 2:16 PM #

    i don’t know, wasn’t he a nc state graduate, and wouldn’t most of us love to see him as our AD, rather than coach. going to Carolina AND being a head coach again but at the college level sounds a major demotion. i also doubt he would leave just a year after winning a superbowl, which usually buys you a few years of leeway (sp).

    these are hopefully just rumours, and I’m sure the head hunters are putting their feelers out and talking to just about anyone. but i don’t doubt unc can land someone established.

  5. BoKnowsNCS71 10/26/2006 at 2:32 PM #

    That’s just those heels again. Trying to poke a little fun. Get us all riled up.

    Personally, fot them, that would be like hiring another Bunting. I don’t see them hiring another pro coach who has to learn on-the-job how to coach NCAA level football.

    He would have to learn the nuances of recruiting and build relationships with high school program coaches. It’s tough transition for any coach unless he has some great assistants who are good at that.

    I think UNC is looking for a safe fix — someone to put them in a better position 3 years out when they get their next coach (as the new one go’s on to a bigger program).

    I like Bill Cowher. But I’m not putting the NCAA champion level coaching crown on him yet either. I know this is heresy to the people who don’t like Amato but from a purely business standpoint — taking that kind of risk is hitting an inside straight.

    SFN: You really just compared John Bunting to Bill Cowher? Really? Bill Cowher is one of the most successful and RECOGNIZABLE coaches in the NFL’s last 20 years. He has led teams to five Conference Championship games, two Super Bowls, and has a ring. As long as he hired a top staff, there wouldn’t be much transition to worry with.

    In fact, the record shows that most head coaches that move from the NFL to college seem to do well to extremely well in their transitions — June Jones, Dennis Erickson, Bill Walsh, Bobby Ross, Chan Gailey, Mike Shula, Charlie Weiss, others?

  6. ChuckAllYall 10/26/2006 at 2:45 PM #

    ” Look men, people don’t boo nobody’s…..alright……people don’t BOO nobody’s!!!!” I thought that would be fitting with Halloween right around the corner.

  7. Rick 10/26/2006 at 3:01 PM #

    This kind of strategic thinking is way beyond Lee. His main thought is which camera can he get in front of next.

  8. beowolf 10/26/2006 at 3:07 PM #

    IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

    Can’t say that enough. With much appreciation for Chuck, again:

    IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

    IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

    IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

    IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

    IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked.

  9. ShootingGuard 10/26/2006 at 3:10 PM #

    ^^^^^

    Anyone that doesn’t think Bill Cowher would propel the Pack to a level unseen is crazy…The guy has the good things that Amato has such as Pack blood, charisma, and toughness, but he also would instill the things Amato lacks such as discipline. One of Amato’s biggest downfalls has been an inability to get the hogs upfront on either side of the ball. Cowher would likely be able to change all of that with his NFL defensive history as well as commitment to smash mouth football with “the bus,” etc—big offensive lineman like to go where the run is featured, they don’t like to back off and play patsy pass block all the time…

    Cowher might not win an NCAA Title at NC State (there are very few programs who have been able to climb to the heights of the longtime traditional powers without blatant cheating), but I would take my chances with a Super Bowl winner any day without even blinking or thinking twice about it…

  10. BoKnowsNCS71 10/26/2006 at 3:10 PM #

    SFN — You missed my point entirely. I was not comparing the men and their talents and accomplishments — clearly Bill has more experience as a head coach in the NFL. But neither has/had much experience coaching in the NCAA.

    I don’t know the answer to this but for “June Jones, Dennis Erickson, Bill Walsh, Bobby Ross, Chan Gailey, Mike Shula, Charlie Weiss, others” I would ask — How many of them had NCAA coaching experience BEFORE going into the NCAA. Just curious. Pete Carroll coached at NCSU as an assistant coach and later on went to the NFL and then back to USC.

    As for Charlie Weiss who ciaches at a school that gets all the breaks and ahs no problem with money or recruiting — I would go back to the second point: “It’s a tough transition for any coach unless he has some great assistants who are good at that.”

    How many of the NFL hires mentioned came back to a school that already had a stable group of assistant coaches who helped them transition?

    And finally — I would ask “what makes or helps a coach capable of helping an NFL coach make a successful transition. If it was a sure bet — then they all would be sucessful — and they aren’t.

    Just curious.

  11. Dan 10/26/2006 at 3:16 PM #

    “IF HE WANTS IT, the NC State Football coaching job should be Bill Cowher’s for the taking. Whenever he wants it. Period. No questions asked. ”

    So if we’re 7-0 in the middle of the season next year, and Bill asks for the job, just hand it to him? Fire the assistants? Tell the recruits to go elsewhere?

    SFN: AHHHHH….so you picked up on one of the major “what ifs” and issues with the whole situation!!! No shit, Sherlock. This is a huge risk. HUGE. Which is one of the major reasons why SOMEBODY at NC State needs make sure that we are engaged in this kind of conversation now to make sure that all of the scenarios are taken care of.

    Bill Cowher at UNC….as I said before…..BWAHAHAHAHA!

  12. Dan 10/26/2006 at 3:31 PM #

    “SFN: AHHHHH….so you picked up on one of the major “what ifsâ€? and issues with the whole situation!!! No shit, Sherlock. ”

    I doesnt take Sherlock Holmes to find out whether Bill Cowher wants to go from making 6 million a year and being a Pittsburg Steeler god to being paid a quarter of that to coach at a school that doesnt care about football. It doesnt take Nancy Drew, or the Hardy Boys, or even the Scooby Squad.

    The mere notion that someone is thinking that Bill could wind up at Chapel Hill, it proof that that someone needs not think anymore. And to base such a inane idea as a reason to heat up the flame under any coach is ridiculous.

    Hey, Jesus could come back tomorrow and look around for a job. Damn that Amato! He’s had enough time. We better make sure we save a spot for Jesus, because we dont want those guys at Chapel Hill getting him. There will be no recruiting against Jesus. How do you stop predestination?

  13. burnbarn 10/26/2006 at 4:19 PM #

    “nobody can make a legitimate case that Amato has been successful enough in separating State from the pack to earn himself a label of ‘untouchable’ under all circumstances.”

    A year ago we might have thought Bobby B to be ‘untouchable’. I don’t think anyone is ‘untouchable’ for more than one year. Look at Cowher.. Pittsburg fan probably wants him to move on right now.. he just won a super bowl.

  14. primacyone 10/26/2006 at 4:19 PM #

    I thought we were still waiting on Phil Ford to come to NCSU!

    Not going to . . . In my opinion, I do not see Cowher going to UNC. Not going to . . .

    So if he is coming to a Carolina school as a few folks in Pittsburgh think, then he would be coming here. It’s just a matter of when.

    I would speculate three years from now, but there is always the Duke Job to be considered!!!

  15. newt 10/26/2006 at 4:33 PM #

    Amato coached Cowher, just in case somebody doesn’t know that.

    Definately an interesting situation to watch. Probably nobody in our athletics department, much less our chancellor, has given it a thought.

  16. NCSUDude17 10/26/2006 at 4:49 PM #

    If Cowher goes to UNC, I will officially lose all faith in the world.

  17. cfpack03 10/26/2006 at 5:02 PM #

    I’m canceling my subscription just for the lone reason that SI put those 2 bullet-points in that order.

    Most ACC fans are smart to know Cowher’s loyalties, but a lot of SI readers have no clue and may actually consider the idea that Cowher would work for the enemy.
    Not funny SI, not funny.

  18. class of 74 10/26/2006 at 5:44 PM #

    Honestly, I don’t really believe Cowher is the answer. Cowher would need a great OC for me to feel good about his coming here. He is a defense guy and the college game is quite a bit different than what he is accustomed. In college most successful HC’s are offense oriented. IMHO, give me an offensive genius and we can find a DC. There seems to be a 2 to 1 ratio of DC to OC gurus out there.

  19. BladenWolf 10/26/2006 at 7:05 PM #

    I think the What If scenarios make it far more complicated than it really is.
    The Cowher-to-UNX story is just ridiculous media fodder and doesn’t deserve a thoughtful response. Sorry SFN, but that doesn’t mean I’m proclaiming facts regarding things I know nothing about, but merely offering some common sense.
    All of your other points are dead-on.
    IMHO Cowher would want some time off after retiring from the NFL. So the Cowher to State scenario may indeed be slowly playing out. But UNX needs a coach NOW. Even if the insane scenario of UNX approaching Cowher were to happen, I do not believe any knowledgable person out there would think he would say yes.
    I also agree that Amato is safe for now. However it is my opinion he should not be at the end of the season. He will stay another year even if we lose to Virginia, Ga Tech, Clemson, AND EZU primarily beacuse Fowler has neither the guts nor the brains to pull the plug. Haven’t we already witnessed that?
    I don’t beleive many folks have called for Amato’s job because they thought Cowher was close to wanting the job. On the contrary; most criticism of our coaching staff is because they deserve to be criticized. Now if the seven year honey-moon should come to an end at the same time Cowher has moved into his Raleigh home and had a chance to put his feet up a year, then all the planets will have aligned and we are entering the seventh heaven.
    But never forget we still have Lucifer Fowlup to screw everything up.

  20. NCSUDude17 10/26/2006 at 7:16 PM #

    I hope that nobody here thinks that we should turn down Cowher should he come calling….

  21. redfred2 10/26/2006 at 7:34 PM #

    I’m pretty sure Lee is dead set against having Cowher.

  22. Woof Wolf 10/26/2006 at 7:43 PM #

    How about Cowher for HC and AD in ’08? Unless we have a really good year next year, then he could just be AD and micro-manage the football program when necessary.

    He would be the boss, so if he really missed coaching, he could say, “Hey Chuck, how about answering the phone and handling all this political BS. I want to coach for a couple of weeks.”

  23. legacyman 10/26/2006 at 7:56 PM #

    There will be no AD and HC for us after that tactic failed with Coach V. The two jobs should forever be two different people.

  24. sautz 10/26/2006 at 8:13 PM #

    I considered the the posibility of Cowher to UNC when the job opened up but quickly dismissed it as a nightmare. I’m surprized SI mentioned it. If Cowher does decide to coach college the administration had better do whatever it takes to get him.

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