Ain’t That A Kick In The Head?

It’s tournament time again for the ACC soccer programs. As a State fan, can you feel the excitement?

Well, I guess not. And I can’t blame you. N.C. State soccer accomplished a rare double dip of pathos this season with its men’s and women’s soccer teams each being the bottom seeds, based on their conference records, in their respective tournaments.

The women’s program (9-8-2, 3-7-0 ACC) is seeded eighth out of eight and plays number one seed – you guessed it – Carolina tomorrow at the SAS Soccer Park.

The ninth-seeded men’s program (6-9-1, 2-6-1), relegated to the tournament play-in game against eighth-seeded soccer hotbed Virginia Tech, has just beaten them 4-3 and will face number one Duke Wednesday in Germantown, Maryland. N.C. State Media Relations hotly denies that the play-in game is known as the “George Tarantini Invitational” and wonders how someone came up with that silly name.

In all seriousness, this kind of double futility is pretty sad. I’m glad the men’s team won its game and am sure players on each squad worked hard. But producing results like this squarely in the middle of a national youth soccer hotbed is beyond pathetic.

In fact, it’s inexcusable. It’s doubly so when a Certain School To The West produces almost as many national women’s soccer championships as N.C. State has conference wins.

Question to Senior Associate Athletic Director Nora Lynn Finch: have you been at State so long that regularly uncompetitive showings by our non-revenue teams simply don’t register with you? Or are you, yourself, the problem?

General Non-Revenue

40 Responses to Ain’t That A Kick In The Head?

  1. Cardiff Giant 11/01/2006 at 12:38 PM #

    “pssssst…. not to nitpick, but unc-ch is west of Raleigh, not east…

    Not at all. That was quite stupid of me, actually. In mitigation I announce that I am trying to get out of town to get married and thus am not dotting the i’s as carefully as usual. That was pretty bad, though.

  2. Cardiff Giant 11/01/2006 at 12:39 PM #

    “Hey, our soccer team may be the low seed in the tourney, but hell, they just knocked out VT!! Remember when Herb took the low seed Wolfpack to the championship game a couple of times?? This is the ACC…..ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN—-Example–1983–’nuff said.”

    Yes, and if Poland fought the Third Reich fifty times it would probably win a few, too. If either team wins the conference championship that would be an uncharacteristic accomplishment, given that I can’t recall the last time either did so. If they do, bully for them, certainly.

  3. Cardiff Giant 11/01/2006 at 12:41 PM #

    “Maybe I’m wrong, but I think we’re letting some of our football frustrations spill out elsewhere. I love soccer and would love for us to be more competitive, but I think I can handle only so much negativity before it just kinda blends into a big mass of blah.”

    Actually, I’ve expressed frustration about the generally and comparatively uncompetetive state of several of our non-revnue programs for some years now. As another poster said, their failures are symptomatic of a wider problem – the Department of Athletics as a whole, and its generalized failure and lack of accountability and progress.

  4. cfpack03 11/01/2006 at 12:58 PM #

    but at least we’re profitable!
    although we’re mid-tier in that category too

  5. packpigskinfan23 11/01/2006 at 1:39 PM #

    If I remember right, NCSU soccer wasnt so bad last year… I could be wrong though. Played soccer my whole life… love the sport. but to be honest with you, and dont get mad… I have only went to one game in two years at NCState… and that was a womens game vs UNC. They are completley dominent. More dominent then any other sports team I have ever heard of.

    along the lines of our somehow “anti-sports” administration… i am really starting to believe you people. Now that I think about it the ONLY coach I remember getting fired for performance while I have been an all out Wolfpacker is that horrible VB coach they let go last year. This years team still has an embarresment of a record… but I have heard that they have improved tremendously…. ?

  6. Cardiff Giant 11/01/2006 at 2:22 PM #

    ^ Which is, of course, a club sport. But ever there, our university fails the team compared to UNC. From the article:

    “Daniel, the club’s president, said rugby at Carolina is much bigger than it is at State, demonstrated by $40,000 worth of support the Heels receive compared to the $1,500 the Pack gets from Campus Recreation. According to Daniel, the Pack is a Division-II team, while Carolina has Division-I status.”

    Typical. Our guys, who win a championship on apparently guts alone, get $1,500 worth of support. UNC gets more than twenty times that.

  7. redfred2 11/01/2006 at 2:30 PM #

    Who allocates funds for such as the rugby team and the others?

  8. joe 11/01/2006 at 2:50 PM #

    The next few weekends there are going to be a couple big soccer tournaments in Raleigh and Cary sponsored by CASL. A lot of top national players will be in town along with many college coaches recruiting them.

  9. packpigskinfan23 11/01/2006 at 2:54 PM #

    isnt there a club Hockey team?!?!

  10. joe 11/01/2006 at 3:16 PM #

    Yes, hockey at NCSU is also a club sport.

  11. class of 74 11/01/2006 at 5:50 PM #

    Heck, CTC is well on the way to making football a club sport. Just give another seven years or so.

  12. ldr of pk 75 11/01/2006 at 6:09 PM #

    Where do you think Title IX plays out in all this. Title IX seems to give a “free pass”. It’s good enough just to compete. What happened to our perennially good Womens Basketball team? I haven’t seen any complaints here, but the last number of years have been futile. I see in todays USA Today that we are in other teams receiving votes. With Md., UNC, and Dook, that will be all she wrote come conference schedule time. We used to be class of the league. What happened?

  13. packpigskinfan23 11/01/2006 at 7:28 PM #

    ^ we are too scared to let go of Yow…

    supposed to have one of the best recruiting classes with this years womans BB team. but Yow consistently underacheives along with all other NCSU teams.

  14. cfpack03 11/02/2006 at 10:38 AM #

    I’d still like to know the answer to this question,

    Who allocates funds for club teams such as rugby and the others?

  15. joe 11/02/2006 at 11:24 AM #

    I think the student senate allocates funds for club sports. I’m pretty sure that was the system when I was a student, but that was 25 years ago so it could have changed. The student senate gets money from student fees that they give out to various student groups that apply for it. Any student group can apply but there is no guarantee you will get money.

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