Poor Decisions Killing the Pack

“Poor decisions Killing the Pack”

Does that sound familiar?

Sure it sounds familiar to NC State football fans who have followed the Wolfpack in the 6+ years of the Chuck Amato era. Excessive penalties and turnovers indicated an extreme lack of discipline that helped wrecked the Wolpack’s most recent two football seasons. Even the Philip Rivers years saw the program consistently mismanage the clock, spend timeouts like a sailor in a whorehouse, and get out coached with game-strategy at most turns.

So, is it any real surprise that poor decisions continue to haunt the program today?

As an example from Saturday night – late in the 3rd quarter at Southen Miss, NC State was down 23-10 and had the ball with a 1st down and goal from the Southern Miss six yard line.

Despite having Andre Brown and Toney Baker in the back field, Offensive Coordinator Marc Trestman inexplicably decided to put Marcus Stone in a position where Stone would exercise judgement and need to make key decisions on the field.

Why?

Seriously…WHY!?

On the play, Stone scrambled away from pressure to his left and had a lane to pick up some yards and possibly score a touchdown. Instead, one of the most inaccurate passers in college football chose to throw completely against the momentum of his body and into the middle of the field to a spot where not a single NC State receiver stood. A USM defensive back intercepted the pass. USM then drove the field to make the score 30-10 instead of a potential 23-17.

It didn’t end there. On the Pack’s defensive series that followed, State’s Tank Tyler was ejected from the game for unsportsman-like conduct in one of a series of inexusable and embarassing penalties committed by the Wolfpack. In fact, after just three quarters of play NC State had committed 8 penalties for over 100 yards – at least 3 of those penalties had been late-hits or unsportsmanlike calls.

Most State fans don’t mind losing when our boys are obviously working their ass off and giving 100% effort on and off the field. As long as everyone does their best and conducts themselves like men should then asking for much more is a debatable stretch. But losing like State is doing tonight – with little visible effort on the field and with MORE thug-like unsportsmanlike penalties like we have seen the last few years is unacceptable. Period.

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111 Responses to Poor Decisions Killing the Pack

  1. BJD95 09/18/2006 at 9:37 AM #

    It will be a drunk and surly crowd Saturday night. The Pack had better show the people something good!

  2. redfred2 09/18/2006 at 9:46 AM #

    This is some what repetitive from a lot of other postings but we’re not looking particularly good on the defensive side either at the moment and I’m afraid that D is possibly CA’s only strong suit and still his total focus. There is no way a program should start a season with their most crucial position posing such a huge question mark. Especially when they stick to it like glue and there no immediate second option waiting and ready to fall back on.

    Everybody was aware the talent at the running back positions but they also need the help of an halfway decent OL to even get back to the line of scrimage. I say there is an athlete who has some experience at the QB position somewhere on that team who can present a threat in a full blown triple option attack. Even with a suspect OL it’s a better scheme for the personnel currently on the roster.

    It’s understandable, but I’m thinking that CA is stuck in limbo here, waiting for at least some semblance of his ‘boy wonder’ at QB to reappear. On top of that, his new OC is not helping matters in the least? Can Trestman do the job? Will CA’s ego let Trestman, or any assistant coach fully do his job?

    The problem may be that a defensive minded football coach like CA cannot let go or turn over the duties to the other coaches who are more qualified at implementing a working, and brand new, offensive scheme.

    I don’t if even a single one of those points are true, but there had to have been indicators at every practice session before the season ever started.
    They did practice the offense before the season started, right? At least I think they did anyway???

  3. for2n8son 09/18/2006 at 9:51 AM #

    ^I hope we are not that self destructive.

  4. for2n8son 09/18/2006 at 9:54 AM #

    ^That was a comment on the “drunk and surley” thing.

  5. BoKnowsNCS71 09/18/2006 at 9:59 AM #

    The West Coast offense took Cignetti 3 years to implement at Fresno state. (Cig now at UNC) Expect Trestman to need the same time. Needs time and slack.

  6. BJD95 09/18/2006 at 10:03 AM #

    Having been to many a C-F night game, drunkenness always abounds. And after the start we’ve had, surly is pretty much a given.

  7. BladenWolf 09/18/2006 at 10:31 AM #

    Amato has been our coach for seven years. How long does a top tier or even “up-and-coming” program give a Coach to build the team he promised?

    How often does a program get a “Phillip Rivers” or a “Mario Williams” to speed up this process?

    With all due respect, for2n8son and packpigskinfan23, I AM a loyal pack fan and I DO attend those ballgames and that is what allows me to have the opinion I have.

    Which is this: Our school has given enough time to allow any coach worth his salt to have already built “his program” and we should have results which are better than what i witnessed on the field thus far.

    Crapping on the fans because we are pissed at losing to Akrot and Southern Misstake is a little too preachy if you ask this season ticket holder. And HELL NO you can’t have my tickets…

  8. BoKnowsNCS71 09/18/2006 at 10:47 AM #

    “How often does a program get a “Phillip Riversâ€? or a “Mario Williamsâ€? to speed up this process?”

    I’d say about every 2 years.

    Also hurts to lose the Torry Holts, Koren Robinsons, Jericho Cotcherys et al who can catch any ball thrown to them. We got crippled on DL this year and lose more. Hopefull the back ups getting playing time this year will fill in.

  9. redfred2 09/18/2006 at 10:52 AM #

    Bladen

    We’re three games in, there are some, admittedly way too slow to appear and subtle, adjustments being made. Hopefully these coaches, from the top down, can for once get their egos and their football minds TOGETHER, and all on the same page, so we can take a little comfort in a least one or two phases of our football program over the rest of the season.

  10. BoKnowsNCS71 09/18/2006 at 11:00 AM #

    Agree Red. What don’t kill you only makes you stronger. Some adversity this year might bring out some soul searching by the coaching staff and provide a good foundation for the future.

  11. packpigskinfan23 09/18/2006 at 11:04 AM #

    Bladen- hahaha… sorry. I had to ask. broke college student. need tickets.

    I dont blame anyone for having any opinion, I just feel if guys like classof74 REALLY hate watching our team so much then maybe they just shouldnt go. If the team dosnt live up to fan expectations its going to lead to another dark day like that of the Clemson game last year. I was there. I was disgusted. I DID NOT BOO.

    Thats MY team out there.

  12. BladenWolf 09/18/2006 at 11:10 AM #

    Your argument lacks any evidence.
    So who was the QB that replaced Rivers? Who was the QB (as good as Rivers) before him? Roman Gabriel? Erik Kramer? What DB was as good as Williams a couple of years ago? Names please? Give me a break. Rivers rewrote the ACC record book. Williams was THE first round pick in the draft. We’ve not seen those two types of athletes on our team before, let alone “about every two years”.
    Sure we’ve had All-Americans and great athletes, but none on the level as Rivers and Williams. Both in the past seven years. And if you can’t build a program with those guys, and I’ll add Manny Lawson in there too, then when will we fans ever be allowed to ask the tough questions that aught to be asked or vent our frustrations without being preached to?

  13. Micky McCarthy 09/18/2006 at 11:46 AM #

    All of this talk about the d-line being down this year is bunk. At tackle we have the #1 recruit in America from ’03 in Demario Pressley. Opposite him we have Tank Tyler, a top 20 recruit at his position in ’02. At end we have Ray Brooks who was a 4-star recruit with offers from Penn State, Maryland, UVA, etc. On the other side we have Martrel Brown/Willie Young, the latter having been a top 20 FL recruit. All of these guys are either 3 years out of high school (Brooks/Young) or have been in the program 3+ years (Pressley, Tyler, Brown).

    Yes, we lost 3 good ones from last year, but the talent behind them should not give up 270 rushing yards to Southern Miss.

  14. GAWolf 09/18/2006 at 11:57 AM #

    Good news leaking out of the football building…. we will likely see a different starter at QB on Saturday.

    Tank will miss the first half.

  15. BladenWolf 09/18/2006 at 11:57 AM #

    Amen Brother McCarthy…amen.

  16. for2n8son 09/18/2006 at 12:03 PM #

    BladenWolf I am in no way saying that we should not keep up the pressure, just that we should support the team on game day. There are recruits at every home game. If we take out our frustrations on the kids, we will affect recruiting.

    As to the rest, you express yourself your way and I’ll do the same. No offense was intended, sorry if you took any.

  17. brown pelican 09/18/2006 at 12:34 PM #

    gawolf—evans or burke?

  18. GAWolf 09/18/2006 at 12:41 PM #

    Because I can’t personally confirm, I’ll just keep it at there’s a chance we see another quarter back. If I knew for sure, I’d tell you. Otherwise, I’ll just have to give each of you the hope I have that we’ll at least try to get a spark under this offense.

    And if we do see another qb, I agree it won’t fix all the problems. But at least it gives us as fans hope, and that has to go for the players, too.

  19. GAWolf 09/18/2006 at 12:42 PM #

    I will say that I have heard from a guy with connections to the program that a decision to make a change has likely been made.

  20. GAWolf 09/18/2006 at 12:43 PM #

    Look for a possibly shake-up on the other side of the ball as well. Maybe even some redshirts being removed to fill some holes.

  21. BoKnowsNCS71 09/18/2006 at 12:47 PM #

    If the Jrs on defenese who went to the NFL early were here. Out DL would be much better. UNderstnd we have ank and Demario but as they said at So Miss — there were holes they coudl drive a truck thru. I call that down year for our DL

  22. BoKnowsNCS71 09/18/2006 at 1:35 PM #

    Also not too smart for Tank Tyler to say something to the refs that got him kicked out of the game.

  23. brown pelican 09/18/2006 at 1:37 PM #

    agree ga wolf—qb change will not address all issues—however—it could be the catalyst for renewed energy in what is now a pretty lifeless product—nonetheless—go pack—beat the unwashed yankee catholic invaders this weekend!!

  24. packpigskinfan23 09/18/2006 at 2:10 PM #

    I highly doubt they put Burke in after the seemingly decent job from Evans on Sat night.

  25. redfred2 09/18/2006 at 2:26 PM #

    The DL is down from last year no doubt. But from what, and who else’s starting DL could have stepped in to replace that it still wouldn’t considered “down” from last year’s talent?

    This line has talent, I say some other areas where the talent level is being questioned even harder, have/had talented player potentials also.

    So what is the problem?

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