Amato Plants Foot in Mouth…Again

Before moving onto semi-serious business, make sure you read Cardiff Giant’s interview with Tommy Hunt. Priceless stuff.

No doubt most of you have read about Chuck Amato’s latest testy exchange with the media. And in all fairness, it does seem like there was a certain amount of “badgering” involved. Still, what in God’s name could ever cause a sane adult to say the following, after NC State lost to a MAC school for the first time in over 30 years:

“They’re in a conference that allows non-qualifiers in school,” Amato said during his weekly news conference. “Non-qualifiers. Do y’all need to look that one up to write your stories?… Do you know what kind of players non-qualifiers are, usually? They’re inversely proportional to what their grade-point average is. They can make a big difference.”

The natural, inevitable reaction is to note that Amato is seemingly making a defensive, nonsense excuse. The myriad advantages NC State enjoys as a “flagship” public institution with a large alumni/booster base, nice facilities, and ACC conference affiliation outweigh any admissions advantage Akron might have by a factor of, say, 20. The fact that NC State did not have to pledge a return visit in order to get the Zips to play in Carter-Finley let’s you know where the balance of power stands between the two programs. An obvious PR hit, and a one-day story.

But beyond the obvious, Chuck Amato has also opened himself up to attacks like this one from Dave Glenn. Excerpt:

“Here’s the irony: The way Amato complained about Akron’s academic standards is EXACTLY the way other ACC coaches privately have complained about the low academic bar N.C. State has adopted for its own football program ever since Amato arrived from Florida State. The Seminoles long have been known for their bottom-of-the-barrel approach to academics, and Amato adopted Bobby Bowden’s blueprint — academically and otherwise — when he took over the Wolfpack.”

So, in his trademark, belligerent manner, Chuck Amato managed to get 48 hours of media coverage for NC State – as both a whiner and an academic doormat. What is it going to take for Amato to develop some humility and professionalism? If you show that you’ll let sportswriters get under your skin, it’s like putting blood in the water. Right or wrong, he needs to accept and understand the reality of his situation, and act accordingly.

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98 Responses to Amato Plants Foot in Mouth…Again

  1. BladenWolf 09/13/2006 at 6:55 AM #

    I’m afraid class of 74 is right.

    We made the wrong hire, mistook River’s greatness for Amato’s, and now we are “stuck with Chuck” for the foreseeable future. I don’t think Jed is capable of doing the right thing in this case as I’m reminded of the basketball coaching fiasco. Another three seasons of 6-5, 4-7, and 5-6.

    Mediocre at best. Tidy Bowl anyone?

  2. choppack1 09/13/2006 at 8:04 AM #

    Actually – I think he was a solid hire at the time. What has happened is that the program hasn’t evolved as one would think it would. He’s been able to get great talent here – he just hasn’t been able to get his teams to perform consistently. Watching the Amato led football teams these last 3 plus years has been like my golf game – when I drive the ball really well, I struggle w/ my putting, when I’m putting great, I struggle off the tee. If both of these things come together, my iron play goes in the toilet.

    The Akron game was a microcosm of these last 3 plus. For the first 3 quarters, our D was fantastic. In the fourth quarter our offense played the best its played in 8 quarters (Probably the best it’s played since FSU) – just in time for the defense collapse and to give up more points in 7 minutes than it gave up in 50.

  3. Texpack 09/13/2006 at 8:25 AM #

    The thing that CTC will regret the most about the non-qualifier comment is that the MAC would have been a place for him to get a job after this year.

  4. redfred2 09/13/2006 at 8:51 AM #

    ^Let’s not start pushing Chuckie out the door already, just two games into the season. We almost all agreed, to a man, and months back, that this was going to be a very tough year. Threads highlighting the App State game, and the challenge they would present for us, went on and on forever discussing that very fact. It was just accepted that this year wasn’t going to be anything to write home about.

    I said, back then, that is the defining year for CA and it will be the one season that will be the crystal ball as to his future with NCSU. We’re only two games in. The final quarter in last Saturday’s game showed at least a hint of the ability to turn past page two in the playbook, and also a little spark of confidence and competence coming from the QB position when they do.

    We predicted it, it’s here, let’s ride it out like men, and hope for the best.

  5. redfred2 09/13/2006 at 9:17 AM #

    PAPacker

    Second that AMEN.

    Chuck Amato is fine, he just needs his ass spanked and his mouth washed out with a family sized bar of Ivory soap. He’ll be playing with a big ol’ chip on his shoulder this weekend. We’ll see.

    It has surely been crazy around here though. A select few players getting exactly what they need from Amato and staff, but never an even smattering for the whole crew. And in basketball…got about three days?

    I say it is all about coaching and a certain unrelenting mindset that will not tolerate second rate. Some are just straight foward jack asses when they’re on the basketball court, and others have a demeanor that just broadcasts it without saying a word. Either style is effective.

    I’ll say one thing, if any administrator or chancellor, or anyone thinks that in unlikely event that Bill Cowher is coaching young kids straight out of high school kids, on the collegiate level, won’t illicit some complaints from somewhere, they better think twice. He’s a throwback to Vince Lombardi days. I’d damn sure love to see it, but much later on.

    He’d be the next best and closest thing since Sidney Lowe has stepped in, will shock all by doing great in the ACC shortly, and has already filled the slot I had reserved for the winningest active coach in college basketball, numerous conference and national championship winner, national collegiate board of coach’s, awarded for graduating his basketball players at a 95% rate, a rate thats second only to Harvard University nationwide, the one and only coach K, and little coach k’s once mentor and still idol, the chair throwing SOB from hell,…

    Damnit, forgot about that. Never mind.

    Chuck may/might/will/ and is probably/possibly/in all likelihood…going be on the sidelines this weekend and many many more in the future.

  6. for2n8son 09/13/2006 at 9:37 AM #

    This is a repeat from another string, but

    The press lives on controversey and bad news. They are just licking their chops over all the copy they could get from NC State fans running off coaches from two major sports in the same year. They are doing everything in their power to try to make it hqppen, including blowing Chuck’s “non-qualifier� coments all out of proportion. If they pull it off we will live to regret it! It would take the biggest idiot in the world to accept a coaching job with us.

  7. packpigskinfan23 09/13/2006 at 9:44 AM #

    commpletly agree with Choppack and for2n8son.

    our team can never pull of both sides of the ball well at the same time.

    and

    the media WANTS us to run Amato off… it would be a GREAT story for them.

    its not Amato’s time to leave just yet… unless cowher wants the job. then we still would love to have Amato for a D-Coord.

  8. redfred2 09/13/2006 at 10:30 AM #

    Not everybody on the planet is meant to be “The Captain”, that’s for sure. But I don’t know if the duo of CA/BC could thrive at NCSU now. Probably could have been great if CA hadn’t been in the top dog position already.

    STOP! Reality break. Let’s drop all the fantasy land chatter involving Cowher. There’s not a hint of that ever being a reality anywhere out there right now. Grips need to be gotten.

  9. packpigskinfan23 09/13/2006 at 10:51 AM #

    I know… I know redfred… it just sounds nice to say.

    you are right about CA/BC together… it would never work like that.

  10. Mike 09/13/2006 at 10:53 AM #

    Agreed Red, NO CHANCE of getting Cowher. So what if he has a house in Raleigh. Probably has a beach house too, does not mean he will be coaching Coastal Carolina.

    Cowher’s contract talks broke off because they did not want to discuss during the year, not because he wants to leave Pittsburgh. He is under contract this year AND NEXT, plenty of time to get something in place for the future.

    The $$$ Cowher is making in Pittsburgh are well beyond what we are paying. Why would he come here? Because he loves the University? It’s not all about money, but I dont know many of us who will change jobs to take a sever cut in pay.

    Next, Cowher has no college coaching experience. Coaching the pros and college kids is totally different. I know our BB program just took a guy with no college experience, but the circumstances are different. He would have to assemble a staff, probably all from scratch because the current ones would be gone, and his assts in Pittsburgh would not be eager to come back to the college ranks either.

    Prove me wrong, but Bill Cowher is NOT coming to NC State to coach football, be the AD, or anything else other than what we are, alumni who want to win.

  11. packpigskinfan23 09/13/2006 at 11:14 AM #

    ^at least not till he gets REALLY old, and bored….

  12. class of 74 09/13/2006 at 12:01 PM #

    The world will not come to an end if CA leaves or is shown the door. This job is so much better than it was 7 years ago it’s not funny. We could get a quality coach with the support, facilities and conference affiliation this school now has.
    Set your sights and expectations low enough and you’ll be forever happy.

  13. for2n8son 09/13/2006 at 12:38 PM #

    I agree with everything you say,class of 74, except maybe the “support” part. What we seem to give our coaches lately starts with an S, but I’m not sure you chose the right word. That’s the part that worries me. We, as fans, need to be careful that we don’t become a liability. I don’t mean that we shouldn’t have high expectations, but we need to be realistic, reasonable, and patient. The day may come when Chuck should step aside, but if we run him out of town I suspect we are going to have a worse situation than we did replacing Herb.

  14. redfred2 09/13/2006 at 4:49 PM #

    ^realistic, reasonable, and patient.

    Eh Uhmm….

  15. BoKnowsNCS71 09/13/2006 at 5:21 PM #

    Seems more like the Sendekization of Coach Amato coming to pass.

    Agree the world won’t come to an end if coach leaves but any interest in a coach coming here is going to fade for the same reasons Cali, Lavin, et al turned us down.

    Those who do not recall the past — are doomed to repeat it.

  16. johnny 09/13/2006 at 7:19 PM #

    I don’t see anything wrong with the point CTC is trying to make. He has been talking about it for years. I seem to remember CTC objecting to playing ECU years ago for the same reason. IMHO he is right-All schools should play by the same rules on who can be admitted. All he is saying is that he wants a level playing field( I think he has a good point!!

  17. packpigskinfan23 09/13/2006 at 7:40 PM #

    he MAY have A point… but I dont really see it as all that good of one, considering the diffrences in the stature of the confrences and our ability to recruit compared to theirs. that dosnt exactly make for a level playing feild either.

    it still is a point that might be need to be made, but not by OUR coach at this time… after a we lost to THEM. and not in the way he made it. he just made an ass out of himself, the school, and us fans. HE needs to clear that up.

  18. redfred2 09/13/2006 at 9:16 PM #

    “Seems more like the Sendekization of Coach Amato coming to pass.”

    I admit, I tend to lump the overall FB/BB coaching scenario at NCSU together. Many have disagreed with me, but the two do parallel. Big time.

    Only thing is, there has never been any really consistent aptitude for football at NCSU. Now as far as basketball, that great aptitude has been frivolously wasted away, and only over the past decade, by totally denying that it ever even existed.

  19. Wolfpack4ever 09/13/2006 at 10:11 PM #

    johnny Says:

    “September 13th, 2006 at 7:19 pm
    I don’t see anything wrong with the point CTC is trying to make. ……. I think he has a good point!!”

    My wife might have a good point that I’m a lousy lover, but putting it in the Garden Club Newsletter doesn’t work. Chuck might or might not have a good point but you will be hard-pressed to justify his public expressions of it.

  20. Wolfpack4ever 09/13/2006 at 10:20 PM #

    BLUE SUCKS, could be that you are right in your post about fear being the only motivator that works. But frankly, I think you might have seen one too many Bear Bryant at Texas A&M movies. And I understand Urben Meyer was that way at Utah and at Florida when he got there.

    One size may fit all as relates to football, but I would hope that fear isn’t the only way. John Fox of the Carolina Panthers appears to not resort to fear and abuse tactics and he is somewhat successful.

    The strength and conditioning coaches at State by all indications, try to motivate in other ways.

  21. johnny 09/13/2006 at 11:05 PM #

    “My wife might have a good point that I’m a lousy lover, but putting it in the Garden Club Newsletter doesn’t work. Chuck might or might not have a good point but you will be hard-pressed to justify his public expressions of it.”

    The schools or conferences that voted to allow partial qualifiers clearly must think it is an advantage. If the voted for it, then why are they ashamed of it.? Is it a dirty little secret? Most recruits and college fans of this schools know about it. Where was the outage when CTC made similar comments years ago about him not wanting to play ECU for the same reason??? Or does this have more to do with losing??

  22. bTHEredterror 09/14/2006 at 3:21 AM #

    Congratulations SFN!!! This thread was the featured story on a Web Watch piece on “The Crystal Ball” on CSTV yesterday!

    One of the guys (a handicapper type) suggested Chuck’s comments were out of desperation. Another took a shot at his shades. But Trev Alberts put it best, (I’m paraphrasing) Chuck came in and sold us on high expectations, and hasn’t delivered. And unfortunately, the hot seat comes along with the high expectations. That’s life.

  23. redfred2 09/14/2006 at 3:52 PM #

    johnny Says:

    “The schools or conferences that voted to allow partial qualifiers clearly must think it is an advantage. If the voted for it, then why are they ashamed of it.?”

    Just picked that statement out and that is an excellent point.

    They’re never brought up during or after a ballgame, but the N C system standards are a definite handicap for athletics and even within the conference.

    The standards were voted in, we adhere to them, I don’t think anybody is tooting their own horns about them, or any media sources or sports announcers pointing out the obvious handicaps during a game.

    But nobody is ashamed to admit that that is what their conference stands for either.

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