Dave Glenn’s Accurate Take

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This is a must read article. How Dave Glenn describes the situation with Barnes is extremely consistent with what SFN has learned from our sources. Expect the “Barnes matter” to be resolved in the next 24 to 48 hours. We’ll let you know more as the situation develops.

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116 Responses to Dave Glenn’s Accurate Take

  1. J-wolf 04/04/2006 at 5:12 PM #

    There is really no excuse to get a 2nd rate coach, IMHO. We have the money, the facilities, and the tradition…all we need is a name now. What really irks me is all the CH and Duke fans that say that we need to stop giving ourselves airs, we’re just a low-tier ACC team and that’s all we’ll ever be.

  2. JimmyVguy 04/04/2006 at 5:24 PM #

    Rick Barnes is the best choice. John Calipari wouldn’t be bad either. Tubby Smith might be ripe for the picking, but I like a guy as my fourth choice that nobody is mentioning. He played under Jimmy V. Led a tremendous team in his playing days to the NCAA tourney, and has turned around a program and led it to the NCAA in just two seasons. He runs an uptempo style of offense which would be more attractive to recruits, and has a squeeky clean background. His name…Jeff Ruland from Iona.

  3. JimmyVguy 04/04/2006 at 5:26 PM #

    Yeah…come back to good ol’ NC Rick. We’ll all have some nice big portions of Lamb Chops.

  4. NCSt8inAustin 04/04/2006 at 5:32 PM #

    Graduated NCSU in ’92. Moved to Austin in ’03. Unless State is offering big money, Barnes would be a fool to leave. I love NC. I grew up in Raleigh. I’ll be buried in Austin, TX. ELO could not be more right. People that think UT is “just a football school” don’t get it. Texas is a football state. But UT fans are true to their own. They just lit the Memorial tower for the womens track and field champions for gods sake. The RBC Center is awesome. But the Frank Erwin Center is pretty cool too and they don’t have to share it with a hockey team.

    Austin is an incredible city and people don’t usually understand that until they live here. Ask anyone who has lived here before.

    I hope for my Alma Matters’ sake that Barnes goes to NCSU. I cheered for both State and UT until they played one another and then I am true to MY school. UT fans are rabid and loyal and coming to love BBall like children with a new toy at christmas – they won’t give him up easy.

    In other words – Hope, but don’t get your hopes up. He’d be a fool too leave for what Fowler and the WP club can/will cough up.

  5. BleedRed 04/04/2006 at 5:50 PM #

    All of these big names being tossed around excite me to no end. I can see why JC of Memphis would be interested in the ACC after all of the good teams deserted C-USA. But why do people think we have even the slightest chance at TS when Ky is one of the top 2-3 jobs in the country?

  6. Clarksa 04/04/2006 at 5:55 PM #

    Tubby has started getting the same crap from UK fans as Coach Sendek was getting here…people suggest he might be ready for a change.

  7. JimmyVguy 04/04/2006 at 5:59 PM #

    The people at Kentucky are treating Tubby like we did Herb. Herb did us a favor and left. Maybe Tubby would do the same. There have been rumors that he was leaving Kentucky for years now and he is yet to, and I don’t expect him to. I’d rather have others, but Tubby wouldn’t be bad if interest in leaving Kentucky is there. Maybe Kentucky is a top job, but coaching one of the top programs in the ACC and making $1.8 million wouldn’t be too terrible of a move.

  8. choppack 04/04/2006 at 6:00 PM #

    Tubby would be a horrid hire. Sendek inherited a bad situation and made it much better. Tubby was handed a dynasty and they’ve turned into a bubble team. I’d rather have Haith, Gonzalez, et all than Tubby. He’d be my last choice.

  9. JimmyVguy 04/04/2006 at 6:06 PM #

    http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19838088&postID=114412731792274206
    Anonymous said…

    Rick Barnes would be more than tremendous. NC State needs one of those “Good Ol’ Boys” much like a Roy Williams. I’m from the Hickory area and know just about anyone born and raised here is just that type of guy. My concern lies in the reason Barnes left the ACC in the first place. Not because the competition as in the teams and coaches were too tough, but as in the referees were too tough due to the halo effect that comes with being one of the top teams…you can do no wrong. This used to be Carolina, but with the retirement of Dean Smith has become more of a Duke thing. I am unsure as to what Barnes will do…hopefully he comes to Raleigh, but if not then the options should come down to these candidates:
    John Calipari-Memphis-college resume speaks for itself
    Jim Beilein-West Virginia-runs a hybrid princeton style offense that would work well with current roster
    Tubby Smith-Kentucky-excellent record at Kentucky, recruiting roots in the South.
    Jeff Ruland-Iona-Jim Valvano coaching descendant has revamped alma mater Iona in just two seasons and runs a more uptempo style which would attract big time recruits.
    Mike Montgomery-NBA-Will be looking for a new college gig soon.
    Rick Adelman-NBA-Another lame duck coach with college success.

    Tue Apr 04, 06:08:51 PM

  10. forst8 04/04/2006 at 6:12 PM #

    The longer this takes, the better I like our chances.

    Regarding Haith, I think he is a “diamond in the rough” so to speak. I’d rather have Barnes, Calipari, Wright, etc. but if Haith is our next coach, I really believe he has much upside potential than Herb and he is already an excellent recruiter.

    I personally think Tubby would not be a good hire for us. I would go for Haith before Tubby

  11. mrjmr 04/04/2006 at 6:21 PM #

    Has anyone else seen this story out of AZ?

    Dullsville describes new man in Tempe

    09:59 AM MST on Tuesday, April 4, 2006
    Opinion by Greg Hansen / Arizona Daily Star

    Arizona State athletic director Lisa Love said Monday that Herb Sendek was “my very, very first choice.”

    She had more than a month to search for a basketball coach. She had enough bank — probably more than $1 million per season in guaranteed money — to handpick someone charismatic and recognizable. And she chose Herb Sendek, a low-keyed version of Cal’s barely breathing Ben Braun.

    Said former Channel 4 sports anchor Danny Harden, who has covered Sendek’s North Carolina State teams for WGHP Fox 8 since 2002: “Herb has taken more crap from fans than any coach I’ve ever been around.”

    Through the magic of the Internet, I found video of the news conference Sendek held after 10th-seeded North Carolina State stunned second-seeded UConn in the 2005 NCAA tournament.

    He was so underjoyed, so visibly inanimate, that you would have thought he was there to announce the media’s bus schedule.

    “Our guys have had a quiet confidence throughout, clearly not overconfidence, clearly not arrogance,” he said in a monotone. He could have been describing himself and his coaching career.

    Harden said: “Herb is an introvert. He reminds me of Dick Tomey in that the fans didn’t appreciate what he had done until he left.”

    The NBA drafted one North Carolina State basketball player, Julius Hodge, during Sendek’s decade as the Wolfpack’s coach.

    Ten years. One draft pick. In that same stretch, the beleaguered Sun Devils had four players drafted by NBA clubs.

    And Sendek was Love’s “very, very first choice.” Who was second, Henry Bibby?

    On basketball-crazy Tobacco Road, Sendek took the Wolfpack to a fifth consecutive NCAA tournament this season — but home games at Raleigh’s RBC Center averaged 5,236 empty seats.

    In 10 years at N.C. State, Sendek’s teams finished the season in The Associated Press Top 25 once. The Wolfpack was No. 15 at the conclusion of the 2004-05 season.

    Ten years. One ranked team.

    Indeed, Herb Sendek is a curious choice to replace Rob Evans and attempt to put the Sun Devils on the college hoops map.

    Wrote Raleigh News & Observer columnist Ned Barnett: “The balding young coach in the dark suit with the clenched fists who became a focus of anguished internet postings and sports radio rants is gone. It’s not good riddance, but it’s a good thing.”

    You wonder what Love was thinking. Probably this:

    Sendek averaged 19 victories per year. He won five NCAA tournament games. He beat No.1 North Carolina in 1998 and No. 1 Duke in 2004. He created a disciplined, patient offense, based on the system Princeton has run for ages.

    These are all things the Sun Devils aspire to do.

    Moreover, he has been one thing that the Sun Devils have not been — competitive. He is, as they say in baseball, a tough out, a .259 hitter who can bunt, field his position and never breaks curfew or makes a fool of himself.

    But, mostly, Sendek was available. After years of being unappreciated, after being overwhelmed by the monolithic basketball traditions at Duke and North Carolina, Sendek probably would have taken the ASU job for a 50 percent pay cut.

    He is a far better choice than the autocratic Rick Majerus. He has much more credibility than an up-and-comer from Wichita State or Montana. In sum, Sendek was the best man Love could get.

    If he can hang tough in the ACC, he will soon be able to do so in the Pac-10.

    “Sendek won bunches of C-level games and a good many B-level ones,” wrote Charlotte Observer columnist Scott Fowler. “But you could count the A-level wins on one hand.”

    At Arizona State, Sendek will get all the time he needs, five years perhaps, to elevate ASU to that level. It will not be a lot of laughs, but it should be better basketball.

  12. highstick 04/04/2006 at 6:31 PM #

    I’m hearing a 2 million offer for Barnes this afternoon on WBT radio. That’s more than Roy. Wonder if that includes shoe contract?

  13. JimmyVguy 04/04/2006 at 6:48 PM #

    I know some prominent wolfpack club members. People who would know what is going on and they would definitely be willing to help foot the bill for Barnes, but I haven’t heard 2 million…wow

  14. jvh 04/04/2006 at 6:56 PM #

    show barnes the money

  15. newswolf 04/04/2006 at 7:54 PM #

    I asked a friend of mine in Austin today would they rather lose their baseball or basketball coach, and he said Barnes. I asked him which has he watched more of this year, Rose Bowl tape or Hoops games, and he said re-watching the rose bowl

  16. BleedRed 04/04/2006 at 9:13 PM #

    What would be Wright’s thinking to consider leaving Nova?

  17. Wolfie99 04/04/2006 at 9:33 PM #

    WRAL 5 just said NCSU may pay 2.2 million for Calipari.

  18. PackisBack 04/04/2006 at 9:43 PM #

    Thought is was $2m for Barnes . . .

  19. beowolf 04/04/2006 at 10:02 PM #

    Just thought I’d give y’all a traffic update. You may want to avoid inbound McDowell Street for the next couple of days, because the N&O is going to crap a boulder over THAT news.

  20. TVP 04/04/2006 at 10:38 PM #

    The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that the Barnes situation is Mack Brown to Texas in reverse.

  21. JimmyVguy 04/04/2006 at 11:09 PM #

    While we’re raiding Texas for coaches we should go ahead and sign up Mack and get rid of Amato.

  22. wolfpacker 04/05/2006 at 12:01 AM #

    While everyone seems to talk about texas and what they return next year! Well lets look at State’s next year roster:
    Next Years Possible NC State Roster

    4 Courtney Fells G 6-5 194 Sophomore Shannon, MS
    5 Chris McCoy G 6-5 180 Junior Louisville, KY
    10 Braxton Albritton G 6-2 205 Junior Raleigh, NC
    11 Gavin Grant G-F 6-7 212 Junior Bronx, NY
    14 Engin Atsur G 6-4 200 Senior
    20 Bryan Nieman G-F 6-6 215 Senior Raleigh, NC
    23 Brandon Costner F 6-8 230 RS/Freshman West Orange, NJ
    33 Cedric Simmons C 6-9 233 Junior Shallotte, NC
    34 Ben McCauley F 6-9 235 Sophomore West Newton, PA
    40 Andrew Brackman F 6-10 235 Junior Cincinnati, OH

    SG 16 Larry Davis
    (Christ The King Regional HS)
    Middle Village, NY 6-3/175/14.0 Committed to North Carolina State

    SF 19 Dennis Horner
    (Holy Spirit HS)
    Absecon, NJ 6-7/190/16.0 Committed to North Carolina State

    SF Dan Werner
    (Christian Brothers Academy)
    Lincroft, NJ 6-7/220/16.2 Committed to North Carolina State

    Pretty talented team with only one starting senior! our next coach has a team that can still have wonderful chances for post season play! Its not the texas team however its a reasonable and workable challenge!

  23. Chemba 04/05/2006 at 6:13 AM #

    I hope it’s just me, but it really seems like this Haith rumor isn’t going away. If we end up with Haith, I’ll be sick.

  24. EFFFFDuke&Carolina 04/05/2006 at 6:46 AM #

    This whole process reminds me of Frank Beemer when he was being approaced by UNX and played them against VT and got a raise from Tech.

  25. VTPACKFAN 04/05/2006 at 7:31 AM #

    Next Years Possible NC State Roster

    I didn’t recognize the guard who transferred from Pitt on that list, I still don’t think I know his name, Fergueson?

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