50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

Updated @ 9:00am

Sunday Evening UpdateJob is Cal’s if He Wants it

Sunday Afternoon UpdateWheels in Motion?

Today could be the day…or it might not be the day.

That is how good…and bad that we feel right now.

By now, it is no secret that NC State has engaged in significant talks with Memphis Head Coach John Calipari.

Although some reports indicate that a contract offer was not made and talks will continue, we can’t imagine a scenario where NC State loads up its Athletics Director and Chancellor to meet face to face with Calipari if an offer was not discussed; this opinion is underscored by Dave Glenn who shares more details than other sources and says that State’s $1.7 million offer “overwhelmed” Calipari.

* We think Memphis is working very hard behind the scenes to pull something together to appease Coach Cal. But, Glenn’s comments on compensation makes us feel a little better:

“He used the word ‘overwhelming,'” the source said. “He said, going into the meeting, he was just going to listen. He came out and said he doesn’t think there’s any way Memphis can afford to pay the kind of money N.C. State is offering.”

One possible explanation for Calipari’s apparent skepticism about Memphis’ ability to match NCSU’s offer is the stark contrast in the size of the schools’ athletic budgets. According to tax forms, NCAA-sponsored data and other resources, the Tigers’ athletic department spent about $24.3 million during the 2004-05 fiscal year, compared to more than $37 million for the Wolfpack.

* We think that the folks at NC State have more confidence about the Calipari situation than they are letting on. But, our sources tell us that Memphis is working hard behind the scenes. Since the job has not formally been accepted, then Memphis has a shot.

* Are we on the verge of greatness again or are we about to suffer a huge embarrassment? Fifteen years have ingrained in all of us to fear the “other shoe dropping”. SFN thinks the race is currently as too close to call. The rational side of the analysis really leans towards Calipari coming to State. But, one cannot look at this chain of events and not fear a Jim Valvano and UCLA scenario where we are suddenly UCLA.

* One notable difference between the Valvano/UCLA situation and the Cal/NCSU situation is that Valvano was more deeply rooted in Raleigh and at NC State than Calipari at Memphis. As we all know, Raleigh / NC State / ACC is a very unique situation and Valvano loved it here. In addition to being one of the most established coaches in the ACC, he was one of the biggest celebrities in the conference and the area, which he wouldn’t have been at UCLA.

* We think that any announcement today – the earlier the better – would be a positive thing for NC State. It would make sense that Memphis can’t just snap their fingers and make money appear. That takes time. If they could make the money appear so quickly, why haven’t they before today? The wild card in this is, of course, Fed Ex founder Fred Smith. He can snap his fingers and make money appear.

* If this became a financial pissing contest, we would expect it to go no higher than $2 million per year. At that point the difference is going to come down to the allure of the ACC vs Calipari’s established program (and personal life) in/at Memphis. The Tigers have a legitimate opportunity to make national noise next year on the court.

* We are on high alert expecting that an answer could literally come at any moment. The longer that this drags out past mid-day on Tuesday, the worse it is for NC State. We say Tuesday because if Memphis finds a way to match the offer today, then we wouldn’t be surprised to see NC State reach back into the vault and raise the stakes.

* By all accounts, Sunday’s flight and meeting with Calipari was not designed to be public. This is why SFN did not reference the flight until hours after message board posters all over the internet were tracking the plane. The last thing that we would want to do is negatively impact the search; which is also why most of what you have been reading here are comments after things have developed and analysis on the information.

* The public revelantion of the flight/meeting should not hurt us with Calipari. In fact, it may help us as it ultimately accelerates his timetable and puts Memphis under a tougher time contraint to move quickly. The shorter the time, the harder it is for Memphis to get their ducks in a row. All we do is counter with a higher number and they have to try to do it again.

* The public nature of the news WILL hurt NC State from a PR perspective if we miss on Calipari. That is why we are saying that we haven’t offered to anyone that will listen.

* 1090 AM in Raleigh is reporting that NC State spoke with Villanova Head Coach, Jay Wright on Saturday. This would help explain a comment that Wright (seemingly inadvertently) slipped into an interview over the weekend that referenced State and Calipari’s conversations. SFN has no confirmation on this and we don’t know if this contact was “official” (ie – made through Fowler or the Wolfpack Club).

* We think that the Wolfpack Club, Lee Fowler, and NC State have made their play and we are very appreciative for the effort. It sounds like State has done all that we can do at this point.

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194 Responses to 50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

  1. yannes 04/10/2006 at 2:29 PM #

    J-wolf:
    Unless they are golfing or tennis buddies with Cal, there is no way that they could know if he is staying or not at this point. They may have a good source, but they aren’t mind readers.

  2. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 2:31 PM #

    And don’t you find it odd that the admin’s are so quiet?
    See above…
    By all accounts, Sunday’s flight and meeting with Calipari was not designed to be public. This is why SFN did not reference the flight until hours after message board posters all over the internet were tracking the plane. The last thing that we would want to do is negatively impact the search; which is also why most of what you have been reading here are comments after things have developed and analysis on the information.

  3. kevirose 04/10/2006 at 2:32 PM #

    yeah but if memphis insiders have historically been “bang on”, then them saying he’s staying is NOT GOOD.

    oh well, it was fun to dream. i’ll still hold out hope, but with every passing minute…

  4. NeverGiveUp 04/10/2006 at 2:34 PM #

    when was the team meeting supposed to occur?

  5. WP 01 04/10/2006 at 2:35 PM #

    kevirose, don’t mean to doubt you—-but how long have you followed the Memphis boards to know they’re “bang on”. Everybody seems to be losing steam on Cal!

  6. 155mm 04/10/2006 at 2:36 PM #

    when was the team meeting supposed to occur?

    This afternoon, but it’s just an internet rumor that there is a meeting at this point.

  7. Texpack 04/10/2006 at 2:36 PM #

    Have you ever heard of a coach having a team meeting to tell the team he was staying? I never have.

  8. wufpacker01 04/10/2006 at 2:37 PM #

    Hey admins, give us some info!!!!!!!!

  9. NYPack 04/10/2006 at 2:38 PM #

    “Have you ever heard of a coach having a team meeting to tell the team he was staying? I never have.”

    He might if he knows his kids are hearing reports to the contrary.

    Lets hope that’s not the case!

  10. roon7723 04/10/2006 at 2:41 PM #

    i almost feel bad skipping my afternoon classes to constantly refresh this page……almost….

  11. kevirose 04/10/2006 at 2:41 PM #

    wp01 – i was just quoting someone else who has been following the memphis boards.

    i’d think calipari might want to hold a meeting and conference either way – if he is coming to us, it is obvious why.

    if he’s staying, why not publicly, swiftly address his flirtation and readdress his committment to the program. plus he’s got a few players who might be thinking nba, especially if he leaves.

  12. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 2:44 PM #

    Have you ever tried to get on Oblinger’s schedule? It is not an easy task. Therefore, for him and Fowler to get on plane and fly to talk with Calipari, I am cautiously optimistic till I read from Calipari that he is staying.

  13. primacyone 04/10/2006 at 2:45 PM #

    A good sign? No one anywhere is talking about anybody else. Not even a mention.

    roon7723: Go to class. It’s one think to slack off at work when you are getting paid. It’s another to skip class when you are paying. Going to class is more important than this.

  14. NCSU4LIFE 04/10/2006 at 2:46 PM #

    Ofcourse the Memphis boards are gonna be putting out rumors that he is staying. Remember when the Herb rumors started and how NCSU fans reacted?

    Sorry that was a bad comparison. LOL

  15. Jeremy Hyatt 04/10/2006 at 2:48 PM #

    someone refill this syringe in my arm called State Fans Nation.

  16. kevirose 04/10/2006 at 2:49 PM #

    okay, i’m off to a 1.5 hr. meeting. y’all make sure there is an announcement b4 i get back!

  17. PortAuthority 04/10/2006 at 2:50 PM #

    Expect an annoucement around 4:00pm

  18. roon7723 04/10/2006 at 2:50 PM #

    wow i didn’t know f5 could refresh. this is by far the best announcement of the day.

  19. Jeremy Hyatt 04/10/2006 at 2:50 PM #

    w3rd?

  20. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 2:51 PM #

    Everyone calm down. Think about all of this with me for just one minute. Let’s assume Calipari turns us down…as much as it sucks that we don’t get him, just think about how many other options are out there that are better than Herb Sendek. Damn…we can get all the way down to our 30th choice and still be making an improvement to our program. Everyone says not to be hard on Herb, he is a good coach, blah blah blah. There are at least 30 coaches out there that could’ve won more games with this years team than Herb did. If Cal says no…that sucks, but we still have at least 28 more possibilities to make our team better.

  21. Scooter 04/10/2006 at 2:52 PM #

    I agree that the news will probably be broke in Memphis first, if Cal talks to his players. We’ll see. I’ve heard a rumor that Fowler and Oblinger gave Cal 48 hours to make a decision so this doesn’t drag out like it did with Barnes.

    If that’s the case his 48 hours isn’t up until tomorrow. Be patient.

  22. PittsburghPackFan 04/10/2006 at 2:54 PM #

    I’m trying to remember the sequence of events when Roy turned down UNC. I remember there was a press conference…

  23. 70wolf 04/10/2006 at 2:56 PM #

    Its now 24 hrs since he had the offer. No doubt that he is waiting on the Memphis offer which it now looks like he has gotten. I’m feeling real bad about the way this is playing out. We may be getting played like a Memphis fiddle. Call us, tell us this is his dream job, get an offer and then tell us to F*** off after getting a 0.5$MM a year raise. ….I think I’m making myself sick……….

  24. 98st8 04/10/2006 at 3:00 PM #

    maybe David Glenn will give an update on the 3pm 850 the buzz…. please.. I need some actual news… not just us guys speculating

  25. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 3:01 PM #

    It sucks…none of my sources know anything. This is killing me.

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