50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

Updated @ 9:00am

Sunday Evening UpdateJob is Cal’s if He Wants it

Sunday Afternoon UpdateWheels in Motion?

Today could be the day…or it might not be the day.

That is how good…and bad that we feel right now.

By now, it is no secret that NC State has engaged in significant talks with Memphis Head Coach John Calipari.

Although some reports indicate that a contract offer was not made and talks will continue, we can’t imagine a scenario where NC State loads up its Athletics Director and Chancellor to meet face to face with Calipari if an offer was not discussed; this opinion is underscored by Dave Glenn who shares more details than other sources and says that State’s $1.7 million offer “overwhelmed” Calipari.

* We think Memphis is working very hard behind the scenes to pull something together to appease Coach Cal. But, Glenn’s comments on compensation makes us feel a little better:

“He used the word ‘overwhelming,'” the source said. “He said, going into the meeting, he was just going to listen. He came out and said he doesn’t think there’s any way Memphis can afford to pay the kind of money N.C. State is offering.”

One possible explanation for Calipari’s apparent skepticism about Memphis’ ability to match NCSU’s offer is the stark contrast in the size of the schools’ athletic budgets. According to tax forms, NCAA-sponsored data and other resources, the Tigers’ athletic department spent about $24.3 million during the 2004-05 fiscal year, compared to more than $37 million for the Wolfpack.

* We think that the folks at NC State have more confidence about the Calipari situation than they are letting on. But, our sources tell us that Memphis is working hard behind the scenes. Since the job has not formally been accepted, then Memphis has a shot.

* Are we on the verge of greatness again or are we about to suffer a huge embarrassment? Fifteen years have ingrained in all of us to fear the “other shoe dropping”. SFN thinks the race is currently as too close to call. The rational side of the analysis really leans towards Calipari coming to State. But, one cannot look at this chain of events and not fear a Jim Valvano and UCLA scenario where we are suddenly UCLA.

* One notable difference between the Valvano/UCLA situation and the Cal/NCSU situation is that Valvano was more deeply rooted in Raleigh and at NC State than Calipari at Memphis. As we all know, Raleigh / NC State / ACC is a very unique situation and Valvano loved it here. In addition to being one of the most established coaches in the ACC, he was one of the biggest celebrities in the conference and the area, which he wouldn’t have been at UCLA.

* We think that any announcement today – the earlier the better – would be a positive thing for NC State. It would make sense that Memphis can’t just snap their fingers and make money appear. That takes time. If they could make the money appear so quickly, why haven’t they before today? The wild card in this is, of course, Fed Ex founder Fred Smith. He can snap his fingers and make money appear.

* If this became a financial pissing contest, we would expect it to go no higher than $2 million per year. At that point the difference is going to come down to the allure of the ACC vs Calipari’s established program (and personal life) in/at Memphis. The Tigers have a legitimate opportunity to make national noise next year on the court.

* We are on high alert expecting that an answer could literally come at any moment. The longer that this drags out past mid-day on Tuesday, the worse it is for NC State. We say Tuesday because if Memphis finds a way to match the offer today, then we wouldn’t be surprised to see NC State reach back into the vault and raise the stakes.

* By all accounts, Sunday’s flight and meeting with Calipari was not designed to be public. This is why SFN did not reference the flight until hours after message board posters all over the internet were tracking the plane. The last thing that we would want to do is negatively impact the search; which is also why most of what you have been reading here are comments after things have developed and analysis on the information.

* The public revelantion of the flight/meeting should not hurt us with Calipari. In fact, it may help us as it ultimately accelerates his timetable and puts Memphis under a tougher time contraint to move quickly. The shorter the time, the harder it is for Memphis to get their ducks in a row. All we do is counter with a higher number and they have to try to do it again.

* The public nature of the news WILL hurt NC State from a PR perspective if we miss on Calipari. That is why we are saying that we haven’t offered to anyone that will listen.

* 1090 AM in Raleigh is reporting that NC State spoke with Villanova Head Coach, Jay Wright on Saturday. This would help explain a comment that Wright (seemingly inadvertently) slipped into an interview over the weekend that referenced State and Calipari’s conversations. SFN has no confirmation on this and we don’t know if this contact was “official” (ie – made through Fowler or the Wolfpack Club).

* We think that the Wolfpack Club, Lee Fowler, and NC State have made their play and we are very appreciative for the effort. It sounds like State has done all that we can do at this point.

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194 Responses to 50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

  1. WTNY 04/10/2006 at 2:00 PM #

    beowolf — You’re right, it’s really hard to get a guage on this one. I wish this had been kept under wraps (or radar, lol) a bit better — who knows if this hadn’t been public so quickly maybe Memphis would have had little or no time to react before Coach Calipari’s overwhelming feeling with the offer would have sealed the deal.

  2. PackPride83 04/10/2006 at 2:05 PM #

    Just so you guys know – while Mr. Murphy is a major donor to the University (understatement)… one of the primary reasons that he has been involved (versus others in the WPC) is because Mr. Murphy is the Chairman of the Board of Trustees.

  3. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 2:05 PM #

    Bobby Purcell is yet to call my family member. She said usually they call a board meeting among the top donors before a hire is made. No board meeting is in place at this time. She is yet to hear anything on the coaching search from the Wolfpack Club.

  4. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 2:07 PM #

    PackPride83 is correct.

  5. 155mm 04/10/2006 at 2:09 PM #

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/tigers/article/0,2844,MCA_25363_4610382,00.html

    Several prominent University of Memphis boosters have spent this morning working with athletic director R.C. Johnson in hopes of assembling a financial package that could convince John Calipari to turn down an offer to become North Carolina State’s next basketball coach.

    A source close to the situation told The Commercial Appeal that the U of M will likely present a package that consists of a base salary of between $1.5 and $1.7 million annually, which would be a raise of between $400,000 and $600,000 per year. Regardless, that would not meet the package of close to $2 million N.C. State has reportedly offered, but the source said it could still be enough to keep Calipari, considering he already has a $2.5 million annuity in his contract that will be collected if he coaches at Memphis through the 2009-2010 season.

    Local rumor mill says Cal is meeting with his players today followed by a press conference. Can’t pin anyone down on a time.

    I will say this, however, and that is that the Memphis fans are a lot more willing to believe Cal will go to State than Texans were about Barnes.
    I didn’t think he would leave until I saw the numbers. If the “ACC/Tobacco Road/Challenge of returning NCSU program to elite” was the driver I’d expect the NCSU offer of a raise would not be so huge. This is about money I think, and those are big numbers. No one can hope to outbid Texas. Those people will spend money just to prove a point in a sport they couldn’t care less about.

  6. beowolf 04/10/2006 at 2:10 PM #

    JimmyV, to me that sounds like no news is *bad* news.

    But again, I’m mired in other-shoe-dropping/last-15-years-of-being-a-Wolfpack-fan territory. A change in one will signal a change in the other.

  7. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 2:11 PM #

    Patience……….

  8. 74brickyard83 04/10/2006 at 2:12 PM #

    Man, the memphistiger.org boards are way more active than the longhornnation when their coach was being wined and dined. Of couse there’s some wolfpacker over there stirring the pot a bit.

  9. beowolf 04/10/2006 at 2:12 PM #

    Oh, now apparently we follow the team meeting (supposed to be good, unless you’re a Wolfpack fan) WITH the press conference in Memphis (need I say it?).

    Sometimes I don’t think you can be pessimistic enough when it comes to rooting for the Pack.

  10. BJD95 04/10/2006 at 2:14 PM #

    To be a Wolfpack fan is to be fatalistic. We’ve been Charlie Brown trying to kick the football for a long time now. The longer this drags out, the more nervous I get. Felt good this morning, and that feeling is slowly seeping away.

    The crash of this Calipari-induced high would be quite dramatic. I really don’t much care about the next names on the list. The dropoff in quality after Calipari is huge. We need to make this happen.

  11. wufpacker01 04/10/2006 at 2:14 PM #

    i dont know about youfolks, but my day has been:
    Elation…depression…elation…depression….extreme elation….man this sucks….what the &?/*# is going on!!!!!
    🙂

  12. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 2:15 PM #

    hahahahahahahahahahaha

  13. DavidThompson 04/10/2006 at 2:16 PM #

    Tell me about it Beowolf…pessimistic is a NCSU fans middle name.

  14. 155mm 04/10/2006 at 2:17 PM #

    I think they are just real basketball fans at Memphis and UT could really care less because Orange/White games going on now. Football takes a backseat to nobody at UT.

    LOL. There are plenty of morons around too, like the ones that hope Cal leaves so UM can hire Nolan Richardson or Steve Lavin. Memphis is a baskeball town though. Having lived in Dallas, Houton, Memphis & places all over I’d say basketball is something they play between football season & spring practice in Texas. Memphis is a bb town and it’s and okay place… I’ve lived in worse.

  15. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 2:18 PM #

    guys, instead of flipping out to each individual piece of info we get (like this board meeting), go back to the top and the blog post again. All this confirmed is still relevant. We have to learn to reject our Pavlovian reaction to expect disappointment.

  16. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 2:18 PM #

    My coaching friend basically promised Calipari was coming, but my family member hasn’t heard anything and she was present for the hiring of Amato and Herb…but that was pre-Fowler. Maybe they won’t call a meeting?

  17. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 2:19 PM #

    ^ supposed to say, and read the blog post again… was in a hurry

  18. beowolf 04/10/2006 at 2:20 PM #

    Pessimistic with willingness to jump into balls-to-the-wall optimism. It’s an interesting dynamic. We’re fatalistic to protect our emotions owing to the last 16 years — but we’re always willing to believe in miracles owing to 1983 (and perhaps 1987).

  19. WP 01 04/10/2006 at 2:21 PM #

    if he doesn’t come, I think I’ll just laugh when I here the news. That said, I’m very optimistic he will be coming.

  20. PortAuthority 04/10/2006 at 2:22 PM #

    Just remember Packof82Cards, this is more important than work!

  21. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 2:24 PM #

    If he doesnt come I will fire myself and monte and me can hit the unemployment line. I am feeling good about this one(for what it’s worth, I am not a psychic)

  22. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 2:25 PM #

    dan?, fire yurself????? If i get fired can i have a job????

  23. J-wolf 04/10/2006 at 2:26 PM #

    So, the buzz on the Memphis boards is that the two people who have said Cal will stay at Memphis are pretty much bang-on with every “insider tidbit” that they have posted.

  24. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 2:27 PM #

    hey, i can even parachute with the best of them!!!

  25. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 2:28 PM #

    Seriously, there is no reason for doubt right now. The man is a competitor and he wants a national stage, this is no secret. We have numerous items in our favor, so many that I won’t list them b/c it takes too long. The only drawback is theres no wpc board meeting (so?). Plus, the man’s parents live in Charlotte at the lake no less… won’t that be nice for off-season weekends? Can’t you hear his mom, “Move to NC John Vincent so I can see my grandkids!”

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