50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

Updated @ 9:00am

Sunday Evening UpdateJob is Cal’s if He Wants it

Sunday Afternoon UpdateWheels in Motion?

Today could be the day…or it might not be the day.

That is how good…and bad that we feel right now.

By now, it is no secret that NC State has engaged in significant talks with Memphis Head Coach John Calipari.

Although some reports indicate that a contract offer was not made and talks will continue, we can’t imagine a scenario where NC State loads up its Athletics Director and Chancellor to meet face to face with Calipari if an offer was not discussed; this opinion is underscored by Dave Glenn who shares more details than other sources and says that State’s $1.7 million offer “overwhelmed” Calipari.

* We think Memphis is working very hard behind the scenes to pull something together to appease Coach Cal. But, Glenn’s comments on compensation makes us feel a little better:

“He used the word ‘overwhelming,'” the source said. “He said, going into the meeting, he was just going to listen. He came out and said he doesn’t think there’s any way Memphis can afford to pay the kind of money N.C. State is offering.”

One possible explanation for Calipari’s apparent skepticism about Memphis’ ability to match NCSU’s offer is the stark contrast in the size of the schools’ athletic budgets. According to tax forms, NCAA-sponsored data and other resources, the Tigers’ athletic department spent about $24.3 million during the 2004-05 fiscal year, compared to more than $37 million for the Wolfpack.

* We think that the folks at NC State have more confidence about the Calipari situation than they are letting on. But, our sources tell us that Memphis is working hard behind the scenes. Since the job has not formally been accepted, then Memphis has a shot.

* Are we on the verge of greatness again or are we about to suffer a huge embarrassment? Fifteen years have ingrained in all of us to fear the “other shoe dropping”. SFN thinks the race is currently as too close to call. The rational side of the analysis really leans towards Calipari coming to State. But, one cannot look at this chain of events and not fear a Jim Valvano and UCLA scenario where we are suddenly UCLA.

* One notable difference between the Valvano/UCLA situation and the Cal/NCSU situation is that Valvano was more deeply rooted in Raleigh and at NC State than Calipari at Memphis. As we all know, Raleigh / NC State / ACC is a very unique situation and Valvano loved it here. In addition to being one of the most established coaches in the ACC, he was one of the biggest celebrities in the conference and the area, which he wouldn’t have been at UCLA.

* We think that any announcement today – the earlier the better – would be a positive thing for NC State. It would make sense that Memphis can’t just snap their fingers and make money appear. That takes time. If they could make the money appear so quickly, why haven’t they before today? The wild card in this is, of course, Fed Ex founder Fred Smith. He can snap his fingers and make money appear.

* If this became a financial pissing contest, we would expect it to go no higher than $2 million per year. At that point the difference is going to come down to the allure of the ACC vs Calipari’s established program (and personal life) in/at Memphis. The Tigers have a legitimate opportunity to make national noise next year on the court.

* We are on high alert expecting that an answer could literally come at any moment. The longer that this drags out past mid-day on Tuesday, the worse it is for NC State. We say Tuesday because if Memphis finds a way to match the offer today, then we wouldn’t be surprised to see NC State reach back into the vault and raise the stakes.

* By all accounts, Sunday’s flight and meeting with Calipari was not designed to be public. This is why SFN did not reference the flight until hours after message board posters all over the internet were tracking the plane. The last thing that we would want to do is negatively impact the search; which is also why most of what you have been reading here are comments after things have developed and analysis on the information.

* The public revelantion of the flight/meeting should not hurt us with Calipari. In fact, it may help us as it ultimately accelerates his timetable and puts Memphis under a tougher time contraint to move quickly. The shorter the time, the harder it is for Memphis to get their ducks in a row. All we do is counter with a higher number and they have to try to do it again.

* The public nature of the news WILL hurt NC State from a PR perspective if we miss on Calipari. That is why we are saying that we haven’t offered to anyone that will listen.

* 1090 AM in Raleigh is reporting that NC State spoke with Villanova Head Coach, Jay Wright on Saturday. This would help explain a comment that Wright (seemingly inadvertently) slipped into an interview over the weekend that referenced State and Calipari’s conversations. SFN has no confirmation on this and we don’t know if this contact was “official” (ie – made through Fowler or the Wolfpack Club).

* We think that the Wolfpack Club, Lee Fowler, and NC State have made their play and we are very appreciative for the effort. It sounds like State has done all that we can do at this point.

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194 Responses to 50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

  1. wufpacker01 04/10/2006 at 1:18 PM #

    Does anybody have any information on team meetings, etc. If something is gonna happen, its gotta happen soon.

  2. DavidThompson 04/10/2006 at 1:22 PM #

    “Originally i was told Calipari and Co. were coming here. Not the case after all. Lee Fowler flew to Memphis this morning and is wrapping this up. calipari met with his staff last night and let the situation be known. it would also appear he is bringing a majority of his people with him as indicated by last nights staff meetingâ€? – NCSUbarman

    This was post on the ESPN boards…This guy in the past is usually correct about NCSU happenings. Thought I would share. Just something I ran accross.

  3. NCSU4LIFE 04/10/2006 at 1:23 PM #

    Thanks DT. Coming through in the clutch like it was 1974.

  4. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 1:27 PM #

    I talked with an assistant coach from another ACC school and he basically said the entire coaching community thinks that Calipari is a lock to come to Raleigh. He seemed to be a little irritated at the idea which makes me think that he knows Coach Calimari will come into Raleigh and make us pretty damn formidable pretty damn quickly.

  5. WolfInVolCountry 04/10/2006 at 1:31 PM #

    Oops, for some reason the entire link would not paste. So here is the Memphis Commerial Appeal website. You can get to the article from there.

    http://www.commercialappeal.com

  6. Chaos & Disorder 04/10/2006 at 1:31 PM #

    There are reports on the Memphis sports board that there is a team meeting scheduled. Usually, that means bad news….which would be great news for us.

    http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/memphis/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=48968

  7. WTNY 04/10/2006 at 1:33 PM #

    Here is WolfInVolCountry’s link:

    Tigers try to sweeten the pot for Calipari

  8. WolfInVolCountry 04/10/2006 at 1:34 PM #

    ^Thanks WTNY!

  9. JTO 04/10/2006 at 1:35 PM #

    Here’s an excerp from the Commercial Appeal article…they sound defeated already:

    Now let’s say that Johnson can convince the big-money Tiger boosters to ante up enough to convince Calipari to stay and coach here. What does he do for Tommy West, who has brought unprecedented success to the Tiger football program?

    Reality check: Memphis is not in a BCS conference. Money is always going to be an issue here. John Calipari has done remarkable things with a basketball program that was teetering on the brink of falling into the abyss known as mid-major status. He’s brought the spirit back and had this city fired up as few had seen it in the past. But you can only do so much in Memphis as the man charged with overseeing the entire athletic program.

    All that’s left is for R.C. Johnson to figure out his best offer, make it and see what happens. If it’s good enough, great. If it isn’t, well, there would be quite a few solid coaches willing to come here and take over what Calipari’s built.

    Posted in Tigers Basketball by Gary Robinson | Email This Story | Comments (0)

  10. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 1:35 PM #

    My Boss is so gonna get pissed, i have done nothing today…..lol

  11. RAWFS 04/10/2006 at 1:39 PM #

    I gotta agree with Chris92Heel about GD – he is the type that tosses bombs at virutally anyone and the Heels are no exception. I do remember his taking them to task re Doherty.

    GD. Kinda fits come to think of it.

    I’m nervous on this one. If you read my little blog, you know who I want to coach State. It will be a different day for the N&O, BTW – PP, TWP, this site and to a far lesser extent mine will set the record straight if and when they start their tired yellow journalism routine about Cal (if he comes to Raleigh.)

    For example, Michael Byrne really started the “truth about Barry Saunders’s column of half-truths” last year that had Melanie Sill predictably defending Saunders and Ted Vader essentially apologizing after Ron Wellman contradicted Saunders. Expect similar battles in the future over Calipari. Problem for the N&O is that there are talented writers (myself excluded) who have venues that never existed in the V/Golenbock era.

    It’s going to be FUN.

  12. WTNY 04/10/2006 at 1:39 PM #

    Chaos & Disorder — however in this case, the “insiders” on the Memphis message board are confidently claiming the opposite:

    MemphisTigers.org message board: Team Meeting has been scheduled!!

    “I strongly concur with Keith. Nothing will change. Cal will still be the coach. The staff will get pay upgrades. This never should have gotten to this level of incompetence.
    Cal loves the Tiger Nation. Team will be told later today. I suspect there will also be a press release or press conference this afternoon. “

  13. alexg 04/10/2006 at 1:41 PM #

    “Interesting. My only previous problem with him is that his picture on his blog is completely ridiculous. Looks like a schoolkid bursting to pee.”

    I thought it looked ridiculous too! Like his senior yearbook photo or something! hahaha . . .

    I can’t understand how people could be pissed with LF right now. He is going after HUGE fish, and they are listening. He is serious about making NCSU a contender!

    I hope that stuff is true DT!

  14. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 1:45 PM #

    Just let things work out the way its meant to be……be calm, be calm, be calm……OMG I CANT WAIT ANY LONGER!!!

  15. beowolf 04/10/2006 at 1:46 PM #

    WTNY, I saw the same thing — the two oracles over there are (a) adamant that the Memphis AD et al. screwed up (with respect to assistants’ pay, if you’ll read elsewhere) BUT (b) Calipari is staying.

    No doubt (b) is more speculative than (a). All things being equal, however, a team meeting would appear to be a good sign for us. But who knows?

  16. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 1:47 PM #

    MemphisTigers.org message board blocked from work. Can we get the details of the team meeting? time?

  17. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 1:48 PM #

    none given that i see cfpack03

  18. J-wolf 04/10/2006 at 1:50 PM #

    I don’t know why, but as the day drags by with no real news in either direction, I find my overzealous optimism slowly waning. Maybe it’s because of the Barnes situation, or maybe it’s just the “other shoe” feeling you get from being a State fan, but the recent signs of confidence on the Memphis board are starting to chip away at my own positive belief.

    I will say this, however, and that is that the Memphis fans are a lot more willing to believe Cal will go to State than Texans were about Barnes.

  19. kevirose 04/10/2006 at 1:51 PM #

    the suspense is killing me here. monte, my boss would kill me too!

  20. wufpacker01 04/10/2006 at 1:54 PM #

    Hey, can we get some comments from the directors of this board who seem to have such overarching knowledge of the situation. At least tell us if they know any more than all these rumors flying…for instance, hard core confirmation of a meeting with the team and with assistants last night????????????

  21. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 1:55 PM #

    Confidence Waning??? Why???

    Calipari contacted us with interest in the job.

    Despite the thought that Fowler hadn’t called him back, it now appears that they may have talked once or twice.

    He’s been offered a monster contract to coach at one of only four schools in the most prestigious basketball conference in the country to win a national title.

    Calipari is coming and we’re gonna take that next step…next year…and become one of the top 15 teams in the country.

  22. NCSU4LIFE 04/10/2006 at 1:57 PM #

    “I will say this, however, and that is that the Memphis fans are a lot more willing to believe Cal will go to State than Texans were about Barnes.”

    I think they are just real basketball fans at Memphis and UT could really care less because Orange/White games going on now. Football takes a backseat to nobody at UT.

  23. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 1:57 PM #

    I’ll call and talk to a member of my family…she’s ranked number two, behind Wendell Murphy among individual donors in the Wolfpack Club. As of two days ago the Wolfpack Club had been completely silent with all members except for Murphy.

  24. J-wolf 04/10/2006 at 1:58 PM #

    Thanks JimmyV, I needed that!

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