Not Ready for Primetime (After 10 years)

No one would ever mistake me for a Brett Friedlander fan. (Take a look at last year’s embarassment by Brett to see why)

So, when someone who is historically such an apologist for a certain cause writes a piece like the one that Brett wrote last week, then everyone really needs to stand up and take notice.

You may have missed the piece since the Fayetteville Observer doesn’t get the kind of attention as the newspapers in Raleigh, Charlotte, Greensboro, and Winston-Salem. But, make no mistake about the fact that none of those papers have found a way to express the feelings of the majority of NC State fans in their pages this year like Brett Friedlander has.

Friedlander succintly highlights many of the macro-deficiencies in the leadership/management of the direction of the NC State program without veering off topic at all. He writes a SUPER PIECE and hits so many nails on the head in this article that I don’t know where to begin. For example:

* He nails the of not setting high goals and standards (if any goals or standards even exist)

* He nails the “passive is as passive does” attitude of the coach and the players and the program.

* He nails the failures of the program on many fronts

I am going to paste Friedlander’s article as the first comment in the comments section of this entry because, much like this incredible piece from LAST YEAR, I don’t want to ever run the risk of losing it.

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39 Responses to Not Ready for Primetime (After 10 years)

  1. Jeff 03/06/2006 at 10:41 AM #

    State still not ready for prime time
    By Brett Friedlander

    At some point, I’d like to see Herb Sendek pop his head out of that daytight compartment he’s always talking about and say the words N.C. State fans have been longing to hear since the day Lorenzo Charles dunked home Dereck Whittenburg’s airball in Albuquerque 23 years ago.

    “We are among the elite teams in the Atlantic Coast Conference and the nation.�

    Better yet, I’d like to see the Wolfpack actually go out and prove it by rising to the occasion and winning a big game in a big spot against a big rival.

    It hasn’t happened yet, though not for lack of opportunities.

    On Jan. 7 in Chapel Hill, State was tied with North Carolina with 3 minutes to go before going the rest of the game without scoring.

    Ditto 11 days later at Cameron Indoor Stadium. Only this time, the Wolfpack scored just three points in the final 5 minutes to let another one slip away.

    There wasn’t anywhere near the drama Wednesday at the RBC Center, where even with luxury of the homecourt advantage, Sendek and his Still Not Yet Ready for Primetime Players couldn’t get the job done.This time they were dominated by the ever-improving young Tar Heels, 95-71. Undoubtedly the NCAA tournament selection committee will be duly impressed.

    It will be by UNC, at least, if for no other reason than – unlike State, coach Roy Williams’ team played as though it believes it can be a factor in March. That might turn out to be wishful thinking, considering that the Tar Heels have even less experience in the postseason than Mary-Kate Olsen does at an all-you-can-eat buffet.

    But at least they think they can go a long way in defense of the national championship their now former teammates won a year ago in St. Louis. You’d have a hard time convincing me that a single member of the Wolfpack is thinking beyond the Sweet 16 — the round in which its 2004-05 season ended.

    Part of that is Sendek’s fault.

    He has made it a point to treat every game in the same low-key manner, to not let either himself or his players get caught up in looking too far into the future. It’s a sound approach, in most cases.

    But there are certain times when you have to consider the big picture and set the bar high, especially at a place where it’s been so low for so long. And as the disappointment among the 19,722 red-clad fans as they headed toward the exits before the final TV timeout will attest, some games are more important than others.

    Good or great?
    Even in their disappointment, an emotion with which they have become all too familiar, the Wolfpack faithful can still take solace in at least a few significant milestones their team has already accomplished.

    With 21 victories, it has already won more times than any State team since 1981-82, the season during which current point guard Tony Bethel was born. And with another invitation to the NCAA tournament all but a formality, the Wolfpack will tie a school record with its fifth straight invitation into the field of 65.

    But as undeniably good as this season has been, can it be considered great?

    I’ll answer that question with a question.

    What would they say at UNC, or better yet, a few miles farther up the Interstate at Duke?

    They’d say come back and ask again in about a month, because without a championship banner of some sort to hang from the rafters — for the regular season, the ACC tournament, the national championship or all of the above — it’s just another season. No matter how many games they won.

    It’s a mindset at State that seems to have died along with Jim Valvano and the crippling NCAA sanctions he left behind.

    No matter how far the Wolfpack has come since then and how well it has done in the past 10 seasons under Sendek, it will never be thought of as one of the ACC’s elite — let alone the nation’s — unless it starts thinking that way first.

  2. Sam '92 03/06/2006 at 11:35 AM #

    The article is right on, and it ends with where we need to begin — there has to be a change in thinking by the decision-makers before we will get anywhere, and giving Herb his walking papers isn’t enough (but it would be a good start).

    If Herb goes, who will be deciding on his replacement? Lee Fowler? I’m not filled with hope at that prospect.

    Truly, the whole thing is depressing. It’s bad enough that the team’s performance redefines mediocrity, but other than some fans/alums/students posting on sites like these, no one seems to want to do anything about it.

    Unless hoping the sun comes out tomorrow counts as doing something.

    What’s it going to take for change to happen?

  3. class of '74 03/06/2006 at 11:38 AM #

    The best news I’ve heard regarding our basketball situation came to me via The Morning Sports Drive on WTSB 1090 this morning. Taylor Zarzour, the host, claims from a source close to the program that Herb is fed up with the negativity surrounding him and is willing to look around at alternatives.

    Given our present situation, this seems to me to be our best, and most likely our only, hope of getting any changes to our present course of mediocrity.

  4. RickJ 03/06/2006 at 12:22 PM #

    Would Missouri be a good landing place? Their last two coaches (Stewart & Snyder) have really embarrassed the University and they need someone squeaky clean to start over. Missouri is not a bad job – They are the dominate D1 program in the state and have real good fan support. I still don’t see it happening.

  5. Andy 03/06/2006 at 12:22 PM #

    Does anyone else think that no one is gonna wanna coach at a school where the fans ran off a guy who took them to 5 straight NCAAs because he didn’t win as much as 2 coaches 20-30 years ago?

  6. Chris 03/06/2006 at 12:24 PM #

    ^ This is what irritates the shit out of me about Sendek. Even in all the piss poor coaching and playing that has gone on in the past few weeks, he’s hinting at putting it back on the fans, citing “negative attitudes” about the past few weeks. Who the F**K wouldn’t be negative about what’s gone on lately? Our players look whipped and our coach doesn’t seem to see a problem?

  7. Sam '92 03/06/2006 at 12:42 PM #

    Andy,

    I suppose there will be some prospective hires who won’t want the job because they know that if they perform the way herb has (pretty good, but never inspiring, not in national contention) then they’ll face what herb is facing, but is that any reason to be stuck with what we’ve got?

    are we supposed to be trapped into herb?

    btw, i acknowledge that you may simply be of the opinion that herb’s performance is acceptable and we should keep him — that’s just not my opinion

    there’s more than one hungry young guy out there chomping at the bit to step into a platform with national possibilities — quality arena, big fan base, good conference and championship history

    n.c. state will not have any trouble attracting a quality replacement; i just hope we have the opportunity to do so soon

  8. Washington Wolf 03/06/2006 at 1:20 PM #

    Finally, someone other than us ‘bad fans’ stated the obvious about Sendek and his underachieving program.

  9. BJD95 03/06/2006 at 1:40 PM #

    Any coach who would be scared off by “the fans running off a guy who consistently MADE the NCAAT” is a man who would ultimately fail here anyway. That’s not the championship mentality that we need.

    We are in quite a Catch 22 here. Sendek would leave (plenty of secondary evidence to back that up), but he’s comfortable enough here that he would only want to take an attractice job – not just any power conference opening. But those kind of jobs have their sights set on coaches above Sendek’s level. In fact, as we saw with Pitt a few years back, the kind of jobs Sendek would take are going to go through their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choices before his name even comes seriously into play.

    There are obstacles to success at Mizzou – Sendek wouldn’t take it (same with jobs like Rutgers). Indiana and Kentucky would have to go through about 15 rejections before Sendek would be considered – and they aren’t likely to be rejected even once. The one place with somewhat verified mutual interest is Michigan – but Amaker likely saved his job by narrowly sneaking into the NCAAT this year.

    The only outside possibility I see is Iowa. It’s not so high profile that they will DEFINITELY feel entitled to someone better than Sendek. What Sendek has done here is pretty comparable to Alford at Iowa, so Sendek won’t necessarily be viewed as a “step down.” And they did give Alford a pretty long leash, so Sendek would feel comfortable with the political climate. Plus, the Big 10/11 is pretty workable as far as major conferences go. Plenty of patsies to beat up on, and no truly dominant perennial powers. That would logically appeal to Sendek.

  10. Andy 03/06/2006 at 1:43 PM #

    I guess my feelings are he has laid a solid foundation to make a jump to the next level, but I can understand the sentiment that people are tired of waiting. However I think statements like “trapped with herb” are a bit harsh. Trapped should be reserved for the Les Robinsons of the world.

    At least herb doesn’t have to overcome the orchestrated media conspiracy that Coach K lives with:

    http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137834512614&path=%21sports&s=1037645509200

  11. class of '74 03/06/2006 at 1:53 PM #

    Our “marriage” to Herb is not good and like any bad marriage the sooner we seperate the better for both sides IMO. I just hope Kentucky and Tubby seperate as well because if that job opens then it will create a cascade of other jobs that may be attractive to Herb and vice versa.

  12. newswolf 03/06/2006 at 2:04 PM #

    I honestly think that if Robinson would have came in when Sendek was hired the results would be about the same.

    I also think if Sendek had came in when Robinson was hired, those results would be the same.

  13. Carlos 03/06/2006 at 2:06 PM #

    Sorry, I can’t blame Herb. He has an AD that is willing to pay him hundreds of thousands and he doesn’t have to produce. It’s a free paycheck and all he has to do is not bother Fowler with issues concerning the team. (i.e. Run a clean program and show up to the games.) Come on..that’s it. I want to be a coach at State. It’s like winning the freaking lottery. Well, as long as you don’t have Fowler’s daughter on the team, then for some reason you are expected to win. (see Fired Volleyball Coach- 1 ACC win in 5 season..not an issue till he got Fowler’s daughter on team) Herb is doing what anybody blessed with that kind of luck would do, he is riding it to the end. Go Herb…Live that dream of getting something for nothing. You got the golden ticket and the chocolate factory is yours till you want to leave. Besides…I”m used to all the UNC and Duke fans I know tell me how much they LOVE Herb. It’s like a freaking love in.

  14. Rick 03/06/2006 at 2:18 PM #

    “Even in all the piss poor coaching and playing that has gone on in the past few weeks, he’s hinting at putting it back on the fans, citing”

    This bugs me too.

  15. WTNY 03/06/2006 at 2:20 PM #

    ’74: If, and that’s a BIG “IF”, State is looking for a coach this year, will the dynamics of other openings be good? Here are the openings I’ve heard about and found with a few minutes of surfing:

    Indiana – Cincinnati – Ole Miss – Rutgers – Duquesne
    Arizona State? Iowa? (if Alford goes to Indiana)

  16. Jeff 03/06/2006 at 2:29 PM #

    ^ More dominos will fall.

    What if Tubby to Bobcats and Donovan to UK? Then you’ve got an opening in Florida.

    This could be a huge year for the coaching carousel.

    How firm of ground can Mike Brey be on in South Bend? Thank god his name wasn’t Tyrone Willingham.

  17. Jon Smith 03/06/2006 at 2:32 PM #

    Not Read for Primetime?

    Roseanne Rosanadanna for coach!

    Sendek does not strike me as an Ole Miss kind of guy but stranger things have happened. Other than Indiana the other schools might take a look at him.

  18. BJD95 03/06/2006 at 2:48 PM #

    ^^ I hadn’t thought about ND. I think Sendek would take that job in a heartbeat. But would ND want him? He is Catholic (the preist behind the bench is a plus), but not IRISH Catholic.

  19. Jeff 03/06/2006 at 2:49 PM #

    Jon,

    Ole Miss wants to hire Andy Kennedy from Cincinnati. UC could be another domino for us.

  20. Shereef 03/06/2006 at 2:56 PM #

    I hope there is some truth to the Zarzour rumour. Face it next year will be VERY tough. Duke and UNC will be great. FSU returns almost everyone and with Johnson and Thornton will be better than this year. Virginia has a great coach that is maybe 1 or 2 players away from righting the mess Pete Gillen left. Does anyone really think Gary Williams has lost the program? BC proved they are for real. Then the tough outs of Clemson, Wake, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and Miami. At the beginning of the season Sendek admitted this was his most talented team in years and if this is the best he can do in a down ACC year what the hell is he going to do when the conference will the by far the toughest in the nation next year. I think Sendek will bolt during the off season rather then wait for the losing season and risk getting fired next year. Because if he gets fired the odds of him landing a HC job anywhere diminish greatly. But he can leave like he accomplished something when he really didn’t and go to the midwest to coach Mizzou or Iowa. Because if you thought this season was tough wait until next year when the ACC is back with a vengeance.

  21. class of '74 03/06/2006 at 3:46 PM #

    WTNY:
    The dynamics of jobs like Kentucky, Indiana even Iowa becoming open can be great. Just look at the UNC job how it affected KU, Illinois and So. Illinois all because of one job! So who really knows what is in the future but I think we all can agree, if Herb doesn’t want to move he’s not going anywhere soon.

  22. Jeff 03/06/2006 at 3:58 PM #

    Has anyone stopped to look at how bad that we may be next season?

    Not only will we be thin and inexperienced, but we will be even less athletic than we are this year. Who is supposed to get the ball over mid-court before the 10 second clock ends? Atsur? Are you serious?

    Nobody has dared discuss the doomsday scenario of Ced Simmons taking off for the NBA and Andrew Brackman giving up basketball (no way that Brackman is enjoying the game like he once did).

    With that said — Sendek runs a real risk of being run out of town next year with big failure. That would obviously limit the market for his services at other places.

    He could CHOOSE to leave this year and “re-set” his clock and his contract somewhere else. He’s a pretty conservative guy. It is not out of the realm of possibility for this to occur. If I were an unbiased advisor, I would undoubtedly advise him to take another job with a 5-year guaranty than running the risk of keeping this one.

  23. BJD95 03/06/2006 at 4:02 PM #

    My uneducated guess is that Ced stays and Brack hangs ’em up. That still looks to be a pretty bad team.

  24. WTNY 03/06/2006 at 4:10 PM #

    ’74:

    I understand the dynamics from a perspective of lots of opportunities that might be enticing to Coach Sendek.

    I’m actually looking a mythical day after Coach Sendek and State part ways — would having so many openings be good for State? Do we want to compete with openings at Kentucky/Iowa/Indiana, etc. at the same time?

  25. WTNY 03/06/2006 at 4:12 PM #

    Jeff and BJD95 (or anyone):

    What will our roster look like next year? Who will be our likely starters and top 2 reserves (I’m guessing once again we don’t develop the depth we will need).

    I used to following recruting closely but now don’t even know who we have inbound.

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