One Weekend, Four Games, Zero Interest

For a weekend that was technically so full of on-field and on-court Wolfpack action, you might notice that there wasn’t much blog (text or comment) activity. Not a very different story on message boards, either.

Alas, this is what you get when you play a Sun Belt also-ran in football, and three 200+ RPI teams in basketball. The results were predictable, and the action was as boring as late night programming on C-Span 2. Personally, I listened to about half of the MTSU game on the radio, and maybe 10 minutes of basketball combined (honestly, I didn’t even check those scores the next morning). I can only imagine how fun it was to see 13 combined points scored (other than by an interception return and a 1-play drive following a blocked punt) in Carter Finley on Saturday. Or to watch so many players trudge through the ESA who were even slower than Ilian Evtimov (who has multiple knee injuries to explain his lack of “quicks”). NOTE: Evtimov is a good guy to have on the team, and a gritty player – I meant this as a jab at our “classic” opponents, not IE.

It was more interesting from a general sports perspective, as Vandy miraculously ended a 22-game losing streak against Tennessee (ensuring only 6 bowl-eligible teams from the SEC), Ohio State pulled out a thriller in the Big House, Texas Tech got the winning TD as time expired (though us poor NC folks were blacked out by a stupid hockey game on FSN), Georgia Tech upset Miami, and Fresno State gave USC all they could handle. And that was just Saturday – Colts/Bengals was a nice way to wrap up the sports weekend.

Can anyone who is more of a glutton for punishment than I am estimate attendance figures for football and basketball this weekend?

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37 Responses to One Weekend, Four Games, Zero Interest

  1. Trout 11/21/2005 at 2:07 PM #

    ^ Okay, I can buy that. If that is so, and there is a “win filter” than what is wrong with the security of those 2 extra wins? I call it taking advantage of the system, right? If you end up winning 20 games in the regular season, it is not needed. At 15, it sure seems to come in handy. I do agree, I have a tough time imagining NC State even being discussed with 15 wins going into the ACC Tourney.

    What NC State should do is reduce the $$$ and charge each season ticket holder $10 A PIECE for each of those 3 games. That would probably do 2 things: 1)increase attendance; 2)not make the fans feel like they were being taken advantage of.

  2. Jeff 11/21/2005 at 2:20 PM #

    Trout,

    I’m not CRITICIZING State for playing within the system. I am simply pointing out the reality & the specifics of the situation. It’s not an indictment. Just the truth.

    BJD,

    Good example with Georgia v Alabama. Of course, every year the pool of bubble teams is different. Additionally, such a comparison is made easier by the fact that these teams were in the same conference (SEC).

    MrO,

    Great examples of the OOC games at different schools. My primary contention would be that you are looking at a SINGLE YEAR slice of information. This weak home slate is what NC State does to its season ticket holders EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Can the same be true of the last decade at Wake, GT, & Maryland?

    Additionally, all of those teams you highlighted are expected to be down from their previous years performance. Thereby making a little weaker schedule more understandable. Conversely, we are expecting our 2nd or 3rd best team in the last decade and provide our fans another miserable schedule for them to pay for.

  3. BJD95 11/21/2005 at 2:37 PM #

    Alabama had a better SEC record, too (9-7 vs. 8-8), but UGA’s half of the conference was considered stronger.

  4. Rick 11/21/2005 at 2:42 PM #

    “If you end up winning 20 games in the regular season, it is not needed. At 15, it sure seems to come in handy.”
    I would like to think this far into Herb’s tenure we are not at a place where we are worried about 15 win seasons.
    We should be where we are looking for good preseason tournaments not 3 guaranteed wins to ensure us of an NCAA tournament slot.

  5. Class of '74 11/21/2005 at 2:58 PM #

    Rick you are correct! If we can’t win 16 games per year we need to make some changes not involving the schedule.

  6. Mr. O 11/21/2005 at 3:02 PM #

    Jeff: That was as much research as I was going to put into the scheduling issues. I went into that not having any clue what the other schedules looked like. NC State schedules have been terrible. No arguments here. I don’t think there is an NC State fan who has criticized Herb Sendek as much as I have on the scheduling issue.

    However, as far as this year’s schedule ours is right in line with everyone else in the ACC. Neutral site games are becoming more and more common for the more interesting OOC games for all teams. Wake and Duke play in Greensboro. Duke plays in NY, NJ and Philadelphia. UVa plays in Richmond. Maryland plays in the MCI center and Philadelphia.

    I never complained about the lack of good home games. I just complained about the lack of quality competition overall.

  7. Class of '74 11/21/2005 at 3:16 PM #

    The neutral site contests are all TV related issues. That sucks but in todays the dollar is almighty world what can you do? It still beats the cupcakes on top ot cupcakes.

  8. Trout 11/21/2005 at 3:43 PM #

    Looking at those home schedules that Mr O posted for Maryland, BC, GT, Wake and NC State – ONLY NC State is playing a current Top 25 team at home (George Washington).

  9. Mr. O 11/21/2005 at 4:00 PM #

    Don’t forget Duke also. They don’t have a top 25 team on their schedule at home. Maybe you could give Maryland credit for GW in the MCI center???

  10. newswolf 11/21/2005 at 9:37 PM #

    Trout: VT would have not got the bid over OSU. No shot.

    Also, here is the problem I have with the $33 MTSU ticket. They priced this in august when they thought we would be 8-3. Why not price it as $20, and say “hey we know this is a bad game, but we had some wierd stuff happen, we want to make sure all of our fans come to this game, and here is a fair price”

    If we would have received a dollar towards a buyout of Temple this could have helped make up any difference between $20 and $33

  11. Trout 11/22/2005 at 7:46 AM #

    ^ I agree 100% about the ticket pricing situation. Again, leaving some money on the table, in this case, would have been a good thing.

    (and agree about OSU over VT)

  12. Jeff 11/22/2005 at 8:09 AM #

    We might not have left any money on the table if the $20 ticket price would have moved to a higher volume on the demand curve.

    Trout, I left you some vmail messages yesterday. Give me a call when you get a second.

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