USC, Tim Floyd Look To Be In Trouble Over OJ Mayo (Updated 9:45am)

In a just world, USC basketball would have something in common with SMU football in the near future.

The death penalty.

It’s not going to happen, because NCAA bylaws don’t work that way. And besides, they’re not likely to ever again disband a program for a year after the smoking crater it left at SMU.

But USC deserves it. The school has so far escaped facing NCAA prosecution for compelling allegations that star tailback Reggie Bush and his family were lavishly compensated by an aspiring agent while playing for the Trojans. Now comes a devastating, thoroughly documented “Outside The Lines” report that goes into stunning detail about the money and gifts star guard O.J. Mayo allegedly received before and during his one season at USC.

All directly beneath USC’s chronically blind eyes.

RelatedLink to Deadspin’s OJ Mayo entry

Kudos to ESPN for finally writing what others feel about what goes on down in Southern California. This thing stinks to high heaven. Everyone in college basketball knew what was going on here; and Mayo’s odd selection of choosing USC, a school he never visited and had with whom he had NO tie to, was just one of the huge blinking red lights. We don’t typically give the troll a lot of credit, but even he was discussing this in his columns two years ago.

Before Mayo signs, USC would be wise to look hard — very hard — at the Guillory connection. Looking the other way may have helped put USC knee-deep in the Ornstein-Bush mess; sources say Ornstein found his way onto the sideline for USC football games as a guest of Dana and David Pump, Adidas kingpins who once used Ornstein as an auctioneer for their annual fundraiser.

Connect the dots. One way or another, Ornstein met Bush and ultimately became his marketing rep. Bush signed with Adidas. The NCAA is looking into what illegal benefits, if any, Bush received from Ornstein while still at USC.

Now Mayo — the Trojans’ top basketball recruit since Paul Westphal — is being advised by Guillory. And Guillory not only was once labeled by the NCAA as an agent’s representative, but helped get a former USC player (Trepagnier) suspended.

Irony doesn’t begin to describe this situation.

USC played the role of counduit perfectly. Now they want to play dumb and rely on the crutch of the NCAA’s check into Mayo’s amateur eligibility before he stepped foot on campus. That should not cut the mustard here.

Do you want a little more USC Haterade for your day? Check out this fantastic link from Fanblogs.com that highlights the discipline issues within the USC football program. Note that this link is a year old and I have been saving it for the right time that we talked about the Trojan program. This list is dumbfounding and you wonder how all of this is not a part of the media’s standard discussion of the Trojans’ program.

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32 Responses to USC, Tim Floyd Look To Be In Trouble Over OJ Mayo (Updated 9:45am)

  1. highstick 05/11/2008 at 7:00 PM #

    Just read this on another site. My question is does the NCAA have the guts to start enforcing the obvious violations that get reported in the media on a daily basis and apparently are ignored?

    If there was ever evidence of lack of institutional control, it has to be at So. Cal.

    Couple this with Reggie Bush!

  2. RBCRowdy 05/11/2008 at 7:57 PM #

    He *did* take free tickets from Carmelo Anthony to sit court side at a Lakers Nuggets game this year and was forced to pay for them when word got out, but no one apparently decided to ask how a freshman college student from a poor background pays for $500 worth of tickets….

  3. turfpack 05/11/2008 at 8:17 PM #

    Doesn’t surprise me-A friend of mine from the west coast said USC is
    notorious for underhanded recuiting and are so powerful in the media
    on the west coast-nationally ,most everyone is scared to do anything.
    Their are alot of powerful Alumi and fan at USC.
    Sadly the NCAA will not do anything because it’s all about the money.
    The Bush situation was well know around college football and the NCAA
    turn a blind eye to it.RATING,RATING,RATING, -MONEY,MONEY,MONEY that the most important thing to the NCAA.
    Just give them enough rope and one day they will hang themselves.
    Has that day come? Probably not – remember it’s USC wer’e talking about.

  4. Trip 05/11/2008 at 8:18 PM #

    NCAA sweeps under the rug… nothing to see here…

    Sidney Lowe uses one too many phone calls per month with a future recruit.

    SANCTIONS WILL BE FORCED ON NCSU! THIS IS SO WRONG!

    Actually, USC will probably be hit with something just because they aren’t exactly a blue blood, scholarships will probably be stripped away. Gotta play by the rules.

  5. GoldenChain 05/11/2008 at 8:19 PM #

    OK.
    The NCAA ruins V’s life and effectively killed our hoops program over sneakers and these guys are getting flat screens, cash, tickets, hotel rooms.
    Roy is photographed breaking NCAA rules and it doesn’t even get mentioned, he hands out Ben Franklins as ‘graduation gifts at Kansas and nothing (even though he was on the ‘Rules Committee’).

    Holy Mackerel!
    Life ain’t fair.

  6. redfred2 05/11/2008 at 9:04 PM #

    Not good. Not good at all. But I think I’ll wait for the final facts to come in before I pass judgement. Plus, I’ll bet they also have some really nosey neighbors out there too.

    I’d be willing to bet that it’ll take more punishment than the NCAA can dole out to quash USC’s athletics, or their will to win. Plus, their recent successes and the spotlight they’ve been afforded provides such a counter balance that only some really harsh penalties would offset their momentum.

    Either way, they won’t roll over and die, or shrivel away for decades, like the group of too eager to comply, ready to please the world at any cost to their own interests, Boy Scouts, once did over on the opposite side of the country a few decades ago. And are still using as an excuse to this very day today.

    It should be very interesting to compare notes over the next few years, if and when the NCAA decides to come down hard on the Trojans athletics program.

  7. GAWolf 05/11/2008 at 9:06 PM #

    As soon as I heard about this today my first thought was:

    So does this mean the big heartstrings-tugging story about OJ choosing USA and calling Floyd is complete B.S.??? Where did I see the story? ESPN? HBO? Anyone else remember seeing that?

  8. redfred2 05/11/2008 at 9:15 PM #

    “A friend of mine from the west coast said USC is notorious for underhanded recuiting”

    Um, that sounds strangely familiar. Could that friend of yours, in any way, possibly be a UCLA Bruin fan?

  9. ruffles31 05/11/2008 at 10:00 PM #

    “USC is notorious for underhanded recuiting and are so powerful in the media on the west coast-nationally, most everyone is scared to do anything. Their are alot of powerful Alumi and fan at USC.”

    If this was on the east coast, I would have though you were discussing another school where we would replace the S with a N.

  10. Texpack 05/12/2008 at 6:04 AM #

    I was channel surfing and caught this segment on ESPN yesterday. No reason at all for USC to get off without penalty on this one.

  11. graywolf 05/12/2008 at 8:11 AM #

    If this was Carolina do you really think they would be penalized? Me neither.

  12. StateFans 05/12/2008 at 8:46 AM #

    In the end, I feel most sorry for University of California (Berkley) in all of this. The NCAA is going to be so pissed at USC that they are really going to do a number on old Cal!

  13. highstick 05/12/2008 at 8:48 AM #

    If the NCAA won’t enforce the rules or they constantly change the rules to benefit the worst abusers, then it’s no wonder we’re losing respect for the games as they are being played now.

  14. Astral Rain 05/12/2008 at 8:53 AM #

    If USC isn’t punished, we really need to consider an organization other then the NCAA.

  15. beowolf 05/12/2008 at 9:08 AM #

    More NCAA Barbrady mentality is in the works, I am sure. As noticed by an avowed UNC fan, even,

    the NCAA is a past master of enforcing the letter of the law on countless unique situations, most involving absolutely no intent to break the rules or gain an advantage.

    But when a darling school (and USC is certainly one of them) intends to break the rules and does, the NCAA has the ready reply:

  16. redfred2 05/12/2008 at 11:25 AM #

    When it comes to a school like USC, the NCAA is still very hesitant to move on this type of stuff, no matter how blatant the offense.

    But, it’s a totally different situation when NCAA officials have a frustrated little neighbor continually yapping in their ears about it. They may have someone out there who is also running scared, and pretty similar to the close neighbor we had back in 1974.

  17. MatSci94 05/12/2008 at 12:14 PM #

    My problem with this whole discussion is this – how much did the school know and/or facilitate money. The easy answer is “of course they knew, how could you not know?” I’m also not sure how some agent giving an athlete money persuades the athlete to attend a certain school.

    As an interesting thought experiment, maybe the best way rich boosters can help their schools is to send money to a rival’s athletes, then report it.

  18. wbnation 05/12/2008 at 12:18 PM #

    not to take USC’s side, but at what point during the story was anyone related to USC ever brought up? I realize that the schools need to keep closer tabs on their players but how are they to know some rep. is getting money into the hads of a player. Its not like this was a booster paying to have a player come and play at a school. It was a sports agency getting its hold on a kid early on in his career(high school)so that they could cash in later on. While OJ and the agency broke rules, you have to find the smoking gun where USC was complecent in all of this, and as of now, I haven’t seen anything that shows USC in anyway was a contributor to the Mayo camp.

  19. rtpack24 05/12/2008 at 12:25 PM #

    This is the tip of the iceberg. William Wesley delivers players to Memphis and Coach Cal calls him a good friend to the program. He had Dereck Rose in his pocket since high school. The Pump brothers delivered the Wear twins to UNC. This stuff is common amoung the top recruits. They need to do away with all this AAU stuff that is funded by shoe co. and indirectly agents to get these kids ahead of time. Ask any college coach who has more influence the AAU coach or the high school coach. Need to just allow very few AAU games and put the player and his recruitment back to the high schools.

  20. choppack1 05/12/2008 at 1:11 PM #

    Here’s the deal – the NCAA needs to start investigating THE PLAYER when the schools start recruiting him. Certain “agents” should be prevented from associating from players. The NBA should revoke the license of anyone found to be brokering these deals.

    Right now there is very little incentive of the player or the “brokers” to be clean. Until there is incentive, this will continue.

  21. RAWFS 05/12/2008 at 1:36 PM #

    I will defer to the taxation experts that may be on this board but aren’t gifts made for considerations taxable? If those taxes are not paid, then, hmmmmm. Seems like the Feds could do to a player and/or agent what they did to Al Capone.

  22. packbackr04 05/12/2008 at 2:33 PM #

    you are correct RAWFS, any gift to a person above $11,000 in any single year is taxable

  23. redfred2 05/12/2008 at 5:14 PM #

    I have to agree with ^wbnation on this. The very first thing that comes to mind when you read about something like this, is that there is all out and concerted effort by the university to cut corners, or just plain ol’ cheat in order to get ahead. It may or may not be anything but some outsider who thinks he’s helping, but is really doing great harm. Either way, it’s not always a twisting tale or even a slighty complicated scenario. It can be a few people involved in some very simple acts, as we all know.

    rtpack24, couldn’t agree more as far as the AAU, the Pump brothers, and so on. These type of people are of the lowest life forms and I cannot believe that the NCAA has allowed that scum to manipulate young kids in the hopes of future profit.

    It all starts in middle school and the NCAA just idly watches as a bunch of greasy BB pimps begin to corrupt young kids at a very young age. If they want go after USC, that’s fine, but the NCAA would do themselves a great favor, and maybe gain back a little lost respect, if they would stop the presses and clean up their own back yard, before they start acting all high mighty by levying penalties further on up the line.

  24. turfpack 05/12/2008 at 8:20 PM #

    redfred2- That friend of mine graduted from Cal. State- Nortridge
    Yes -He said USC is hated as much as UNC is here and he didn’t think the NCAA would do anything just like they wouldn’t UNC.

  25. turfpack 05/12/2008 at 8:38 PM #

    He could spell better also -graduated from Cal. State-Northridge

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